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Post by socal on Oct 17, 2008 9:07:11 GMT -6
You couldn't have validated my point any better. Being that "one legal voter....one vote" (paraphrasing) is a virtual cornerstone of a our Country, all networks should be screaming about the voter fraud from ACORN 24/7, yet as you have pointed out, it is Fox News that is on the job while the other networks sweep it under the rug. As for the coincidence, I find it to be very coincidental that out of all the news networks, you (liberal) point to Fox News, the only network that openly allows and encourages viewpoints from the left and the right, vice any of the rest of the networks that restrict viewpoints to liberal ones only. WHAT point?!?!? For the 10th time, the issue is VOTER REGISTRATIONS... not VOTES. Is your poorly constructed mind capable of grasping the concept? |
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Oct 17, 2008 9:10:40 GMT -6
You're a fucking idiot. A racist idiot. Did you know that your boy McCain pals around with ACORN too? He does? Besides giving a speech in front of a crowd that had ACORN reps, what ties does he have? SFhawkguy used to say that they love that brutish, tough guy behavior down in the Castro. Give it a shot. PS The "Kill him" incident never happened according to the FBI. That didn't stop The Barry from making a campaign moment out of it though. PPS I LOVE Cripple fights! Please, please, please take a video! My money is on Wendy(matta). |
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Post by NotMyKid on Oct 17, 2008 9:13:05 GMT -6
Jesus thunder, you are a fucking douche. Yeah, I am. A real m*th*rf**k*r. Likability isn't a real big motivator for me. I just want to see if y'all are man enough to spew your shit to my face. Because I know a lot of wingnuts, and none of them are willing to talk shit to me. Curious how that works. See, we've got cocksuckers yelling death threats ansdshit at political rallies. Assaulting reporters. Dropping the n-bomb like it's 1953. I'm no wingnut (I think FDR was a brilliant president), so I must be worthy of your wingnutty derision and hate. So man up, and say it to my face. That's all I want. I might have to stop by tomorrow just to watch. ;D I really don't understand all the name calling. I know plenty of people that are voting the opposite that I am but it doesn't mean I need to call them assholes or cocksuckers.  |
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Post by mattahawk on Oct 17, 2008 9:25:52 GMT -6
Hmmm.... .....And please explain how that statement fell into the realm of "coincidence"... You couldn't have validated my point any better. Being that "one legal voter....one vote" (paraphrasing) is a virtual cornerstone of a our Country, all networks should be screaming about the voter fraud from ACORN 24/7, yet as you have pointed out, it is Fox News that is on the job while the other networks sweep it under the rug. As for the coincidence, I find it to be very coincidental that out of all the news networks, you (liberal) point to Fox News, the only network that openly allows and encourages viewpoints from the left and the right, vice any of the rest of the networks that restrict viewpoints to liberal ones only. Well done Iafan, you beat me to it.  Socal just as well become a conservative if he is going to prove the point for us. Let me dumb it down for you Socal, WHY would CNN and MSNBC bother to report news that is anti-liberal? What would the purpose be when they are a liberal news station? I will say it again, FOX may not be directly down the middle but they are alot better than the other 2. You don't believe me spend half an hour watching Hannity and Colmes. If you are blind enough to believe that Colmes is a conservative then you need serious mental help. Or the guy on in the afternon that does the news, he was making fun of Palin last week basically calling her inept. You will not find 1 person on the other 2 that will dare take a jab at Obama. Prove it once and I will admit I am wrong. |
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Post by thunderhawk on Oct 17, 2008 9:41:43 GMT -6
You couldn't have validated my point any better. Being that "one legal voter....one vote" (paraphrasing) is a virtual cornerstone of a our Country, all networks should be screaming about the voter fraud from ACORN 24/7, yet as you have pointed out, it is Fox News that is on the job while the other networks sweep it under the rug. As for the coincidence, I find it to be very coincidental that out of all the news networks, you (liberal) point to Fox News, the only network that openly allows and encourages viewpoints from the left and the right, vice any of the rest of the networks that restrict viewpoints to liberal ones only. Well done Iafan, you beat me to it. Socal just as well become a conservative if he is going to prove the point for us. Let me dumb it down for you Socal, WHY would CNN and MSNBC bother to report news that is anti-liberal? What would the purpose be when they are a liberal news station? I will say it again, FOX may not be directly down the middle but they are alot better than the other 2. You don't believe me spend half an hour watching Hannity and Colmes. If you are blind enough to believe that Colmes is a conservative then you need serious mental help. Or the guy on in the afternon that does the news, he was making fun of Palin last week basically calling her inept. You will not find 1 person on the other 2 that will dare take a jab at Obama. Prove it once and I will admit I am wrong. Palin is inept. She can't answer simple questions. Like "what do you read?" You think these guys haven't taken jabs at Obama? Ever heard of Jeremiah Wright??? If you think FOX News is really "fair and balanced," then you're a lost cause. MSNBC does have a liberal bent...at least after 7PM CST. I'd hardly call their regulars Scarborough and Buchanan "liberals." Would you? And who is the "liberal" providing "balance" to Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs on CNN? Oh, there isn't one. FOX News is a Republican shilling operation. They know it, we know it. You should fucking figure it out. The rest of the media is CORPORATE. They advance an agenda which benefits their bottom line. Period, end of story. The only reason Olbermann has a show is because so many people watch it. The honchos at MSNBC could give a shit about his ideology. He brings in the bucks. If MSNBC were really a big lib outfit, they wouldn't give Morning Joe and Buchanan such big megaphones, now would they. Oh, here's some more GOP thuggery. Apparently the yelps of hatred are not enough...they have now taken to assaulting reporters at Secessionist Sarah rallies. blog.news-record.com/staff/capblog/archives/2008/10/report_from_pal.shtml |
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Post by mattahawk on Oct 17, 2008 9:52:05 GMT -6
Yeah, I am. A real m*th*rf**k*r. Likability isn't a real big motivator for me. I just want to see if y'all are man enough to spew your shit to my face. Because I know a lot of wingnuts, and none of them are willing to talk shit to me. Curious how that works. See, we've got cocksuckers yelling death threats ansdshit at political rallies. Assaulting reporters. Dropping the n-bomb like it's 1953. I'm no wingnut (I think FDR was a brilliant president), so I must be worthy of your wingnutty derision and hate. So man up, and say it to my face. That's all I want. I might have to stop by tomorrow just to watch. ;D I really don't understand all the name calling. I know plenty of people that are voting the opposite that I am but it doesn't mean I need to call them assholes or cocksuckers. I am not really all for the name calling either, but as it goes, Thunder likes to do it so I thought I would throw it back at him to see what happened. Well it took all of 2 posts and guess what? He flipped out. Maybe now he knows how it feels when HE treats people on here like shit. (I doubt it) |
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Post by mattahawk on Oct 17, 2008 10:06:36 GMT -6
You couldn't have validated my point any better. Being that "one legal voter....one vote" (paraphrasing) is a virtual cornerstone of a our Country, all networks should be screaming about the voter fraud from ACORN 24/7, yet as you have pointed out, it is Fox News that is on the job while the other networks sweep it under the rug. As for the coincidence, I find it to be very coincidental that out of all the news networks, you (liberal) point to Fox News, the only network that openly allows and encourages viewpoints from the left and the right, vice any of the rest of the networks that restrict viewpoints to liberal ones only. WHAT point?!?!? For the 10th time, the issue is VOTER REGISTRATIONS... not VOTES. Is your poorly constructed mind capable of grasping the concept? Actually it IS ABOUT VOTES. Or did you not read my post. O'reilly interviewed some hot blonde chick in a red dress early yesterday evening and she said in FACT they sent some college students OVER the state line into Ohio to register AND vote. These kids didn't live in Ohio, didn't know anybody in Ohio, didn't go to school in Ohio, they were proving a point that there is voter fraud going on right now. And the kicker is the Ohio Sec' of State refuses to do anything about it even though a lower level judge and I believe it was a 6th circuit judge told her to. Thunder, no doubt FOX has an agenda, they all do don't they? How can you sit there and say FOX has an agenda, when the other 2 do the same crap if not worse. I have watched both and the only time in the last month I could handle watching MSNBC was when they were doing the hurricane Ike coverage. Other than that all they do is bash Mccain. That's it. Nothing else. I'll make a bet with ya, i'm watching KCCI right now, turn it to CNN and see what they are reporting on, then MSNBC and then FOX. The first one that says a negative word about the other candidate proves the other right. It's 11:05, go. |
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Post by NotMyKid on Oct 17, 2008 10:06:58 GMT -6
MSNBC does have a liberal bent...at least after 7PM CST. A liberal bent?  You can't be serious. I am not a huge fan of Bill O but at least something comes out of his mouth other then hatred for the left. The same can't be said for Keith and whatever her name is that's on after him. Every night it's Bush sucks, McCain's an idiot, Palin's stupid. |
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Post by mattahawk on Oct 17, 2008 10:09:26 GMT -6
CNN was showing a Obama rally in Virginia, MSNBC was interviewing Jonathan Capehart from the washington post about how Obama is on the verge of blowing out Mccain and turning the red states blue and FOX just finished the same Obama rally in Virginia and turned to Mccain.
2 out of the 3 were certainly pro Obama. Which 2 do you think?
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Post by socal on Oct 17, 2008 11:34:46 GMT -6
One is from England but is here going to college and he freaking voted in Ohio and he has ZERO ties to Ohio. Nothing, nada, zip. I suppose it has nothing to do with the fact that the Secretary of State in Ohio has barred viewers from watching the registration/voting process and REFUSES to verify if those 200,000 registered voters are legitimate or not. Expect Chief Justice Stevens to interfere and halt this disaster shortly. Awwww Snap! That's gotta hurt... www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBC3O0&show_article=1(damned judges legislating from the bench...) |
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Post by socal on Oct 17, 2008 11:38:00 GMT -6
MSNBC does have a liberal bent...at least after 7PM CST. A liberal bent? You can't be serious. I am not a huge fan of Bill O but at least something comes out of his mouth other then hatred for the left. The same can't be said for Keith and whatever her name is that's on after him. Every night it's Bush sucks, McCain's an idiot, Palin's stupid. Is he saying anything but the truth??? Seriously. He's also went after Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Reid ---- etc. whenever they do stupid shit. Watch it sometime & actually listen to what is being said. Just because the words being spoken aren't what you want to hear - doesn't make them untrue. |
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Post by lpcalihawk on Oct 17, 2008 13:43:23 GMT -6
One is from England but is here going to college and he freaking voted in Ohio and he has ZERO ties to Ohio. Nothing, nada, zip. I suppose it has nothing to do with the fact that the Secretary of State in Ohio has barred viewers from watching the registration/voting process and REFUSES to verify if those 200,000 registered voters are legitimate or not. Expect Chief Justice Stevens to interfere and halt this disaster shortly. Awwww Snap! That's gotta hurt... www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBC3O0&show_article=1(damned judges legislating from the bench...) The GOP trying to disenfranchise voters...............no way |
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Post by socal on Oct 17, 2008 15:02:35 GMT -6
Actually it IS ABOUT VOTES. Or did you not read my post. O'reilly interviewed some hot blonde chick in a red dress early yesterday evening and she said in FACT they sent some college students OVER the state line into Ohio to register AND vote. These kids didn't live in Ohio, didn't know anybody in Ohio, didn't go to school in Ohio, they were proving a point that there is voter fraud going on right now. And the kicker is the Ohio Sec' of State refuses to do anything about it even though a lower level judge and I believe it was a 6th circuit judge told her to. So hot blondes in red dresses giving anecdotes is proof of voter fraud? Let me give you a hypothetical... (Due to a relation of his, Hoffa can back me up on this... ;D) ---Is it possible that this blonde was mildly gullible & people were giving her some crap? If this scenario actually took place, why is she speaking to FoxNews instead of the police/FBI? How do these rapscallions bypass the 30 days of residence requirement & the ID requirement to vote? Again, but differently, how were these vagabonds this hot blonde spoke of yesterday... able to hop the state line, register, and vote... when the registration deadline ended 10/5/08 (30 days before the election)? I'll make a bet with ya, i'm watching KCCI right now, turn it to CNN and see what they are reporting on, then MSNBC and then FOX. The first one that says a negative word about the other candidate proves the other right. It's 11:05, go. Um Dude... some of us work. So knock yourself out... |
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Post by Iowafan1 on Oct 17, 2008 20:22:52 GMT -6
You couldn't have validated my point any better. Being that "one legal voter....one vote" (paraphrasing) is a virtual cornerstone of a our Country, all networks should be screaming about the voter fraud from ACORN 24/7, yet as you have pointed out, it is Fox News that is on the job while the other networks sweep it under the rug. As for the coincidence, I find it to be very coincidental that out of all the news networks, you (liberal) point to Fox News, the only network that openly allows and encourages viewpoints from the left and the right, vice any of the rest of the networks that restrict viewpoints to liberal ones only. WHAT point?!?!? For the 10th time, the issue is VOTER REGISTRATIONS... not VOTES. Is your poorly constructed mind capable of grasping the concept? Are you seriously arguing semantics here? You are seriously making an attempt to draw a distinction between the two? "Voter Registration Fraud" vs "Voter fraud"? Really? Are we all really supposed to believe that the objective of "voter registration fraud" isn't actual "voter fraud"? Didn't think this would require an explanation, but "voter registration fraud" falls under the category of "conspiracy to commit voter fraud". That is why conspiracy laws are on the books. If you provide a weapon to someone for the purpose of killing another, you are as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger. If you are engaged in voter registration fraud, you are as guilty as the fraudulent voter. |
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Post by mattahawk on Oct 17, 2008 21:57:51 GMT -6
Actually it IS ABOUT VOTES. Or did you not read my post. O'reilly interviewed some hot blonde chick in a red dress early yesterday evening and she said in FACT they sent some college students OVER the state line into Ohio to register AND vote. These kids didn't live in Ohio, didn't know anybody in Ohio, didn't go to school in Ohio, they were proving a point that there is voter fraud going on right now. And the kicker is the Ohio Sec' of State refuses to do anything about it even though a lower level judge and I believe it was a 6th circuit judge told her to. So hot blondes in red dresses giving anecdotes is proof of voter fraud? Let me give you a hypothetical... (Due to a relation of his, Hoffa can back me up on this... ;D) ---Is it possible that this blonde was mildly gullible & people were giving her some crap? If this scenario actually took place, why is she speaking to FoxNews instead of the police/FBI? How do these rapscallions bypass the 30 days of residence requirement & the ID requirement to vote? Again, but differently, how were these vagabonds this hot blonde spoke of yesterday... able to hop the state line, register, and vote... when the registration deadline ended 10/5/08 (30 days before the election)? I'll make a bet with ya, i'm watching KCCI right now, turn it to CNN and see what they are reporting on, then MSNBC and then FOX. The first one that says a negative word about the other candidate proves the other right. It's 11:05, go. Um Dude... some of us work. So knock yourself out... The part I caught, O'reilly was interviewing this chick, yes she was hot, and O'reilly said something like, this is serious, could this turn into voter fraud? The hot chick said, Bill it already has. They (we?) sent some college kids OVER the state line to register and vote and they did it. One of them is back in England right now. Maybe they voted last month? The way she said it, it seemed like some kind of project for college. I don't know but she said as of right now voter fraud is being committed in Ohio. I'll search their website and see if anything is on there about it. I have never heard one bad thing about anybody liberal on MSNBC and I watched it I would say daily for maybe an hour or so from August until late September when I eventually got fed up with the shit. And for the record O'reilly, for the condescending jerk he can be, has often said Mccains campaign is in shambles and he is more or less clueless. |
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Post by socal on Oct 17, 2008 22:36:19 GMT -6
Are we all really supposed to believe that the objective of "voter registration fraud" isn't actual "voter fraud"? DING DING DING..... YES Dipshit. As has been cited before --- With the exception of the words "FRAUD" and "VOTE", they are entirely different things. Here's some additional info that I'm sure has been cited on Fox/Rush/Drudge: -Article talking about results of 5 years worth of investigations into voter fraud www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?_r=1&ex=1177473600&en=6e5fedb4bb3663a6&ei=5029&partner=RRSANDIEGO&oref=slogin-ACORN Charges from the 2006 elections tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/003107.php-Investigation into US Attorney firings due to their choosing to NOT prosecute "voter" fraud tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/003801.phpSome key quotes: And then there's the infamous Washington Fraud that Fox likes to re-re-hit upon: seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/304877_acorn23.htmlseattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003808207_votefraud27m.htmlHeck, when the former head of voter rights comes out and says it's BS, you should really begin to wonder: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/ex_doj_voting_rights_chief_its.phpPS --- Sorry to induce the Pavlovian response by the bells, but some of us have been watching the same record get pulled from the shelf every 2 years during Bush's term... and replayed each time for those that still believe Bush can do no wrong. We know the story so well that we know what words the hand up your ass will make you say --- well before you say it. To get to the bottom line... Is there voter fraud in the US? Yes. However the total instances found/prosecuted where actual fraudulent ballots are cast - amounts to roughly 100 per election. (Stats from a 5 year study are on the NYT link). Is there voter registration fraud in the US? Yes. From every end of the spectrum of Mickey Mouse registering - to Joe the Plumber himself accepting a mis-spelled name on his voter registration. The big difference here is that the reported fraud is committed against ACORN themselves by employees they paid to have people fill out registration cards. The complete landscape you're missing - is that this ACORN shit is simply cover fire for the GOP to attempt massive voter purges again. Unfortunately for the GOP, this year people aren't cowed by their loud mouth tactics through Fox/Rush, etc... and know what the song is. That's why even in Republicans in Montana are saying the GOP vastly overstepped their boundaries. www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008/10/05/opinion/hjjbijjejjigfj.txtIf you would also recall the whole situation with the Bush Administration firing the US Attorneys a few years back... Their firings were a direct result of their not prosecuting voter registration frauds before the 2006 elections... their lack of action is due to it being against the DOJ rules to do so... and it being a severe case of no crimes being committed, only allegations. Here is a very recent interview with one of the fired US Attorneys: www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/237825.phptpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/iglesias_im_astounded_by_dojs.phpAnd before you dismiss this as fantasy, think to yourself if we ended up being right about Bush, the economy, etc. --- and at least think it through before dismissing. |
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Post by Iowafan1 on Oct 18, 2008 5:05:43 GMT -6
Are we all really supposed to believe that the objective of "voter registration fraud" isn't actual "voter fraud"? DING DING DING..... YES Dipshit. As has been cited before --- With the exception of the words "FRAUD" and "VOTE", they are entirely different things. Here's some additional info that I'm sure has been cited on Fox/Rush/Drudge: -Article talking about results of 5 years worth of investigations into voter fraud www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?_r=1&ex=1177473600&en=6e5fedb4bb3663a6&ei=5029&partner=RRSANDIEGO&oref=slogin-ACORN Charges from the 2006 elections tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/003107.php-Investigation into US Attorney firings due to their choosing to NOT prosecute "voter" fraud tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/003801.phpSome key quotes: And then there's the infamous Washington Fraud that Fox likes to re-re-hit upon: seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/304877_acorn23.htmlseattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003808207_votefraud27m.htmlHeck, when the former head of voter rights comes out and says it's BS, you should really begin to wonder: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/ex_doj_voting_rights_chief_its.phpPS --- Sorry to induce the Pavlovian response by the bells, but some of us have been watching the same record get pulled from the shelf every 2 years during Bush's term... and replayed each time for those that still believe Bush can do no wrong. We know the story so well that we know what words the hand up your ass will make you say --- well before you say it. To get to the bottom line... Is there voter fraud in the US? Yes. However the total instances found/prosecuted where actual fraudulent ballots are cast - amounts to roughly 100 per election. (Stats from a 5 year study are on the NYT link). Is there voter registration fraud in the US? Yes. From every end of the spectrum of Mickey Mouse registering - to Joe the Plumber himself accepting a mis-spelled name on his voter registration. The big difference here is that the reported fraud is committed against ACORN themselves by employees they paid to have people fill out registration cards. The complete landscape you're missing - is that this ACORN shit is simply cover fire for the GOP to attempt massive voter purges again. Unfortunately for the GOP, this year people aren't cowed by their loud mouth tactics through Fox/Rush, etc... and know what the song is. That's why even in Republicans in Montana are saying the GOP vastly overstepped their boundaries. www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008/10/05/opinion/hjjbijjejjigfj.txtIf you would also recall the whole situation with the Bush Administration firing the US Attorneys a few years back... Their firings were a direct result of their not prosecuting voter registration frauds before the 2006 elections... their lack of action is due to it being against the DOJ rules to do so... and it being a severe case of no crimes being committed, only allegations. Here is a very recent interview with one of the fired US Attorneys: www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/237825.phptpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/iglesias_im_astounded_by_dojs.phpAnd before you dismiss this as fantasy, think to yourself if we ended up being right about Bush, the economy, etc. --- and at least think it through before dismissing. Pretty amazing. You go ahead and differentiate "voter registration fraud" from "voter fraud" all you want. I can't imagine that even your liberal buddies can stomach your differentiation logic. We all understand both phrases and, no matter what kind of slants you want to put on them to differentiate them, the objective of both is to get prisoners to vote, get illegal immigrants to vote, get dead people to vote, get Disney characters to vote, get infants to vote, get the retarded to vote, and get everyone who shares their view to vote multiple times. The objective of both are one and the same ...... PERIOD. Pathetic. |
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Post by socal on Oct 18, 2008 7:19:44 GMT -6
get infants to vote, get the retarded to vote Yes. We are fighting to allow even you to vote. (but just because you fall into these two categories doesn't mean you can vote twice) |
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Post by socal on Oct 18, 2008 17:44:07 GMT -6
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Oct 25, 2008 17:09:30 GMT -6
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