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Post by NotMyKid on Oct 30, 2008 9:45:58 GMT -6
I like the attempts you make to try and convince other people that they have no idea what they are talking about by twisting language, throwing out random statistics while boldly stating they you have factual information to support all of your positions. Twine, I don't think anybody is trying to prove that you have no idea what your talking about at all. But as was pointed out earlier the Bush Tax cuts caused an increase in actual tax revenue. That isn't double talk or random stats that's a fact. |
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Post by Iowafan1 on Oct 30, 2008 10:07:51 GMT -6
I'm sure the libs are throwing up all over it.....though I feel pretty comfortable that they won't be able to give a comprehensive or even coherent argument against Fred Smith's positions. Too easy to just bitch. |
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Post by twinegarden on Oct 30, 2008 10:21:55 GMT -6
I'm sure the libs are throwing up all over it.....though I feel pretty comfortable that they won't be able to give a comprehensive or even coherent argument against Fred Smith's positions. Too easy to just bitch. I actually thought it was a really good article too. I agree mostly with the point he made about how it is not right for the financial industry to be reaping the benefits of the hard work of others. This is especially clear when the "others" are the ones putting actual physically evident goods and services into society. I'm done going back and forth with you guys about taxes and the like and do concede that you have some good points. Sorry about the rant I posted last night. Bottom line though is that I think the future of America looks more promising under a Democratic administration over the next 4 to 8 years. After that point if the Republicans would go back to truly conservative policies I would support them so don't lable me a "lib". |
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Post by NotMyKid on Oct 30, 2008 10:30:01 GMT -6
After that point if the Republicans would go back to truly conservative policies No kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Iowafan1 on Oct 30, 2008 10:36:32 GMT -6
I'm sure the libs are throwing up all over it.....though I feel pretty comfortable that they won't be able to give a comprehensive or even coherent argument against Fred Smith's positions. Too easy to just bitch. I actually thought it was a really good article too. I agree mostly with the point he made about how it is not right for the financial industry to be reaping the benefits of the hard work of others. This is especially clear when the "others" are the ones putting actual physically evident goods and services into society. I'm done going back and forth with you guys about taxes and the like and do concede that you have some good points. Sorry about the rant I posted last night. Bottom line though is that I think the future of America looks more promising under a Democratic administration over the next 4 to 8 years. After that point if the Republicans would go back to truly conservative policies I would support them so don't lable me a "lib". Twine....we good again Brother? |
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Post by twinegarden on Oct 30, 2008 10:45:36 GMT -6
I actually thought it was a really good article too. I agree mostly with the point he made about how it is not right for the financial industry to be reaping the benefits of the hard work of others. This is especially clear when the "others" are the ones putting actual physically evident goods and services into society. I'm done going back and forth with you guys about taxes and the like and do concede that you have some good points. Sorry about the rant I posted last night. Bottom line though is that I think the future of America looks more promising under a Democratic administration over the next 4 to 8 years. After that point if the Republicans would go back to truly conservative policies I would support them so don't lable me a "lib". Twine....we good again Brother? Yeah, we're good. I was just going on a little tirade. Hope it didn't really offend anyone. I'm sure your skin is thicker than that. |
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Post by socal on Dec 17, 2008 10:01:38 GMT -6
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Post by mattahawk on Dec 17, 2008 21:27:22 GMT -6
"Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence. When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the President Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need -- the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight. I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful. At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application. " ----------- Anonymous I got this in an e-mail 2 months ago. Pretty good quote. I saw something about an elimination of the state tax in Iowa and what a good idea that would be. I think it would be awesome. They compared us to other states, mainly SD I think, and said SD has had some huge investment in their state and alot of jobs in the financial sector have been created. I know that is also because they have some lax rules for the credit card industry but still. If your state don't have an state tax your economy grows. |
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Post by Dr. Doofenshmirtz (Heywood) on Dec 18, 2008 6:40:04 GMT -6
I got this in an e-mail 2 months ago. Pretty good quote. I saw something about an elimination of the state tax in Iowa and what a good idea that would be. I think it would be awesome. They compared us to other states, mainly SD I think, and said SD has had some huge investment in their state and alot of jobs in the financial sector have been created. I know that is also because they have some lax rules for the credit card industry but still. If your state don't have an state tax your economy grows. A few years ago the legislature voted against doing away with state income tax for people under the age of 30. I hope that they reconsider and maybe do away with it completely. I wouldn't mind paying a little more in sales tax instead. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 18, 2008 8:29:27 GMT -6
Did you read the article? Goldman's low effective rate is a result of tax credits and geography. Aren't you libs the ones who are always begging for the highly progressive tax code? That is what incentivizes company's to use liberal fascist techniques to buy tax credits from their congressmen. The loudest pissers and moaners on here would be perfectly content with a flat tax, but then how would you incent people to overconsume mortgages? And with respect to the geographic mix, Goldman's US earnings are way down. If they repatriate their earnings, they'll pay taxes when they do so. Despite your belief to the contrary, you looters have NO claim to a tax on a profit from a transaction that occurs in another country involving a foreign subsidiary of Goldman Sachs. The minute you think you do is the minute Goldman becomes a Cayman limited company and you get nothing. |
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Post by Iowafan1 on Dec 23, 2008 10:16:45 GMT -6
I got this in an e-mail 2 months ago. Pretty good quote. I saw something about an elimination of the state tax in Iowa and what a good idea that would be. I think it would be awesome. They compared us to other states, mainly SD I think, and said SD has had some huge investment in their state and alot of jobs in the financial sector have been created. I know that is also because they have some lax rules for the credit card industry but still. If your state don't have an state tax your economy grows. A few years ago the legislature voted against doing away with state income tax for people under the age of 30. I hope that they reconsider and maybe do away with it completely. I wouldn't mind paying a little more in sales tax instead. What is the distinction of the age of 30? |
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Post by Dr. Doofenshmirtz (Heywood) on Dec 23, 2008 10:24:00 GMT -6
A few years ago the legislature voted against doing away with state income tax for people under the age of 30. I hope that they reconsider and maybe do away with it completely. I wouldn't mind paying a little more in sales tax instead. What is the distinction of the age of 30? Their hope was to keep the "young people" in the state. I think they thought that 30 is old. |
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Post by mattahawk on Dec 23, 2008 10:24:10 GMT -6
A few years ago the legislature voted against doing away with state income tax for people under the age of 30. I hope that they reconsider and maybe do away with it completely. I wouldn't mind paying a little more in sales tax instead. What is the distinction of the age of 30? I have no idea other than they are thinking of giving an boost to kids right out of college. Get out of college, get a job, get married, go buy a house. Maybe it's just a way to help out those new to the workforce? Not a bad idea but they would be wise to do away with it alltogether. |
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