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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 16, 2009 21:26:10 GMT -6
www.wisn.com/weather/18935841/detail.html"In climate, when this happens, the climate state changes. You go from a cooling regime to a warming regime or a warming regime to a cooling regime. This way we were able to explain all the fluctuations in the global temperature trend in the past century," Tsonis said. "The research team has found the warming trend of the past 30 years has stopped and in fact global temperatures have leveled off since 2001." "Tsonis said he thinks the current trend of steady or even cooling earth temps may last a couple of decades or until the next climate shift occurs." All you new world order hippies can stand down now. The earth is just fine after all.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 17, 2009 6:39:44 GMT -6
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 17, 2009 7:52:31 GMT -6
I think you're right. Global warming is a lie. We have absolutely nothing to worry about. I’m sure the extreme spike in manmade pollution over the last 100 years won’t affect the earth negatively.
Those wacky scientists………….with their “data” and “theories”. What will they come up with next?
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 17, 2009 7:57:18 GMT -6
I think you're right. Global warming is a lie. We have absolutely nothing to worry about. I’m sure the extreme spike in manmade pollution over the last 100 years won’t affect the earth negatively. Those wacky scientists………….with their “data” and “theories”. What will they come up with next? Good on ya....you're finally starting to come around to those scientists who have confirmed cyclical climate changes over the history of the earth.
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 17, 2009 8:18:58 GMT -6
I think you're right. Global warming is a lie. We have absolutely nothing to worry about. I’m sure the extreme spike in manmade pollution over the last 100 years won’t affect the earth negatively. Those wacky scientists………….with their “data” and “theories”. What will they come up with next? Good on ya....you're finally starting to come around to those scientists who have confirmed cyclical climate changes over the history of the earth. Even if you are right, and global warming is a complete exagerration, do you really believe that all is well on Earth? Do you think that the human race is harming the planet in any way? Why even take the risk? Why not be proactive?
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Post by socal on Mar 17, 2009 8:48:24 GMT -6
Good on ya....you're finally starting to come around to those scientists who have confirmed cyclical climate changes over the history of the earth. Even if you are right, and global warming is a complete exagerration, do you really believe that all is well on Earth? Do you think that the human race is harming the planet in any way? Why even take the risk? Why not be proactive? Don't leave an opening like that... Even if we set off every nuke ever made, the planet will survive - as it's survived worse. It's the conditions that allow humankind to survive, or live in non-nomadic settings that is the issue. Sooner or later we will have to put all the flat-Earther's in a boat with one of their "scientists"... and they will eventually circle-jerk themselves to death.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Mar 17, 2009 9:57:51 GMT -6
I've been using t his scientific thingy that has some numbers and boxes on it. I'll go on a limb and predict that we'll soon be entering a short term warming trend (about 150-160 boxes worth). We need to get on the cap'n'trade train asap to take advantage of the coming warming trend.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 21, 2009 13:30:14 GMT -6
www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/21/feinstein-dont-spoil-desert-solar-panels/Diane Feinstein must not be taking this global warming BS too seriously either. Wants solar panels for alternative energy....just not in her back yard. Rings a bell.....Kennedy preaching wind generators so long as they can't be seen from his residence. Algore not wanting Americans to fly, yet routinely hops around the world on a chartered jet. It is all a charade.
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Post by Master Blaster on Mar 22, 2009 14:26:34 GMT -6
Keeping the planet clean and as pollution free as possible just makes sense as we all rely on the resources. Not taking advantage of renewable energy sources is stupid regardless of the global warming argument.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Mar 22, 2009 15:46:16 GMT -6
Keeping the planet clean and as pollution free as possible just makes sense as we all rely on the resources. Not taking advantage of renewable energy sources is stupid regardless of the global warming argument. *applauds* I don't really buy into the whole globing theory, however... actually I don't need to expand on MCPO's comments. Exactly my thoughts.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Mar 22, 2009 19:07:19 GMT -6
Serious question for Iowafan and his ilk: If Dick Cheney or your Messiah 'W' were in Al Gore's place, how would you feel about the theory? Because I can't help but always notice how Al Gore's name gets brought up from the Right anytime they try to discredit global warming.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Mar 22, 2009 19:23:57 GMT -6
Serious question for Iowafan and his ilk: If Dick Cheney or your Messiah 'W' were in Al Gore's place, how would you feel about the theory? Because I can't help but always notice how Al Gore's name gets brought up from the Right anytime they try to discredit global warming. I don't care whose name is inserted with the AGW argument. It isn't a proven theory no matter what Thee IPCC says. Everyone should agree with Master Chief's statement but it doesn't have a place in the AGW debate.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 22, 2009 21:13:55 GMT -6
I think you're right. Global warming is a lie. We have absolutely nothing to worry about. I’m sure the extreme spike in manmade pollution over the last 100 years won’t affect the earth negatively. Those wacky scientists………….with their “data” and “theories”. What will they come up with next? Good on ya....you're finally starting to come around to those scientists who have confirmed cyclical climate changes over the history of the earth. You just described ALL scientists. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Some places on earth, such as the Maldives and the English coast, are already dealing with the effects of rising sea levels. It's happening in real time. It's not a fucking hypothetical anymore. I'm gonna try to explain this to you like you're a sixth grader: Most systems on the planet are carbon neutral or carbon sinks (negative). Plants and the oceans, for example, store more carbon than they emit on balance. Humans, though...not so much. Every year, humans release more carbon into the atmosphere than they remove (via industrial activities.) Still with me? Here's the kicker, basic chemistry: Higher CO2 levels = more stored heat. Always. Atmospheric CO2 levels have been rising since the industrial revolution began. Concurrently (sorry, big word) so have average temperatures. A predictable result. Heat drives climate and weather (see: gulf of Mexico and hurricanes). So it's not really the warming per se. It's the climate change. Because human society is predicated upon the climatological status quo. Fuck with the climate, and...uh oh. But hey, you say, a bunch of volcanoes could drive climate change too. Yeah, they could. But that's like saying that it's ok that the crips gang raped your sister, since the bloods might have done it anyway.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 22, 2009 21:18:03 GMT -6
Keeping the planet clean and as pollution free as possible just makes sense as we all rely on the resources. Not taking advantage of renewable energy sources is stupid regardless of the global warming argument. That's the fucking bottom line. Plus, oil is finite. It will run out. So one can deny the hell out of climate change, and still, not pursuing alternative energy is suicidal. The politicization of energy is literally putting the existence of the human race at risk. And, as stated above, the earth existed before us, and it can exist after us. Our residence here is optional. Yeah, in a few billion years the sun is gonna take care of planet earth, but until that time, we exist at earth's pleasure. It could give a flying fuck whether we stick around to see the end.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 23, 2009 6:07:47 GMT -6
Serious question for Iowafan and his ilk: If Dick Cheney or your Messiah 'W' were in Al Gore's place, how would you feel about the theory? Because I can't help but always notice how Al Gore's name gets brought up from the Right anytime they try to discredit global warming. I don't care whose name is inserted with the AGW argument. It isn't a proven theory no matter what Thee IPCC says. Everyone should agree with Master Chief's statement but it doesn't have a place in the AGW debate. Iammrhawkeyes stole my thunder. Master Chief is absolutely correct. That being said, you can't tie the "we should treat earth nice" argument with the "global warming is legit" argument. They are not mutually exclusive. "Believers" spout that those who believe that global warming is BS (that number is growing by the way) somehow don't care about the earth and want to trash it. It is a cop out. Psychological garbage. The fact of the matter is that those of us who called the global warming myth on the carpet care every bit as much about the world as those who bought the myth hook, line and sinker. The difference is that we are not about to advocate a new world order or advocate the taxing of our citizens into oblivion in the name of global warming. We also aren't real keen on the U.S. Government directing what kind of vehicles must be manufactured, sold and bought in what is supposed to be a free marketplace. If more fuel efficient or alternative fueled vehicles are important to the cause, and I assume they are to you, right?.....all manufacturers have to do is make them so consumers will buy them because they like them and willingly choose to buy them, not because they have been directed to do so. As far as the algore reference....the fact of the matter is that it doesn't help your cause when those who preach loudest about man made global warming are the worst offenders.....algore, Edwards, Pilosi, Kennedy, etc. Have you written them letters about their hypocritical behavior?....probably not, huh? You have been played for suckers.
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Post by socal on Mar 23, 2009 7:04:30 GMT -6
You have been played for suckers. So Bush is really a brush-clearing cowboy that conservatives want to have a beer with... and there are still WMD's in Iraq? Hunh... whodathunk?
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 23, 2009 8:56:39 GMT -6
Iowafan1 is such a stupid, ignorant fuckrod that he states as fact that "global warming" is a myth, when, as empirical fact, the earth has indeed been warming. The only "controversy" is the cause. The actual warming is not debatable.
To witness someone so blinded by ideology that he cannot recognize easily discernible fact is to see someone who's skull might as well be filled with dog shit.
Another incredible assertion by our resident shithead is the assertion that the government (aka "us") is subservient to the free market. Hey, jackass, if the "free market" decided that it was profitable to release cyanide gas into the air or to let Al Qaeda run wild with impunity, would you sacrifice your life to ensure that the big old bad government didn't interfere?
Your fucking stupidity and total lack of intellectual rigor and honesty is insulting to rational human beings. Quit wasting our time and go beat off to your Coulter porn.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 23, 2009 9:00:07 GMT -6
You have been played for suckers. So Bush is really a brush-clearing cowboy that conservatives want to have a beer with... and there are still WMD's in Iraq? Hunh... whodathunk? He probably thinks that Joe the Plumber is actually named Joe and is really a licensed plumber. Or that Sarah Starbursts really was against that bridge to nowhere. In fact I'd wager, and I'd win, that just about every core belief he possesses is demonstrably false. What a pathetic, worthless way to go through life.
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Post by socal on Mar 23, 2009 10:07:11 GMT -6
So Bush is really a brush-clearing cowboy that conservatives want to have a beer with... and there are still WMD's in Iraq? Hunh... whodathunk? He probably thinks that Joe the Plumber is actually named Joe and is really a licensed plumber. Or that Sarah Starbursts really was against that bridge to nowhere. In fact I'd wager, and I'd win, that just about every core belief he possesses is demonstrably false. What a pathetic, worthless way to go through life. I disagree somewhat. From his perspective, Ignorance is likely bliss.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 23, 2009 10:07:31 GMT -6
Iowafan1 is such a stupid, ignorant fuckrod that he states as fact that "global warming" is a myth, when, as empirical fact, the earth has indeed been warming. The only "controversy" is the cause. The actual warming is not debatable. To witness someone so blinded by ideology that he cannot recognize easily discernible fact is to see someone who's skull might as well be filled with dog shit. Another incredible assertion by our resident shithead is the assertion that the government (aka "us") is subservient to the free market. Hey, jackass, if the "free market" decided that it was profitable to release cyanide gas into the air or to let Al Qaeda run wild with impunity, would you sacrifice your life to ensure that the big old bad government didn't interfere? Your fucking stupidity and total lack of intellectual rigor and honesty is insulting to rational human beings. Quit wasting our time and go beat off to your Coulter porn. As admirable as is your ability to use needless profanity every third word in your rants, it doesn't play well. It certainly isn't effective. Just out of curiosity, do your profanity laced intimidation tactics work with anyone in your life?...seriously....anyone at all? My guess is that people either routinely pat you on the head and tell you to go home to Mama or they just bitch slap you...neither here nor there though. www.cristgaming.com/pirate.swfYes Pirate...the earth has been warming...it is the warming cycle. History proves weather cycles have existed bince the beginning of time. We just finished a warm cycle and are getting ready for a cooling cycle...I suppose that will be call global cooling. By the way, you may want to look up the past few winters....record setting winters. The problem with you liberals is that you take everything to the extreme.....you are essentially the "boy that cried wolf". Just as a refresher so you don't get confused, the following is the weather calendar. I am doing this only as a public service: Jan: Cold as a witch's tit...wear a damn jacket Pirate. Feb: Still cold as a witch's tit...wear a damn jacket Pirate. Mar: Starting to warm a bit....don't worry Pirate....this is normal. Apr: Continuing to warm. Camping weather baby boy! Don't invite me Pirate...I don't go that way. May: Warming even a bit more. Break out the T-shirts. Jun: It's getting hot now...again...don't worry Pirate....happens every year. Jul: Hot as toast! Take the jacket off already Pirate. Aug: We're talking hot as lava now...again Pirate...step back from the ledge....we'll get a little global cooling shortly. Sep: Starting to cool back to "hot as toast" temps. See Pirate?...told you so. Oct: Cooling trend continuing...back to camping weather again. Pirate, this is a great time for you to climb a mountain...or save a life...or kill a grizzly bear...or whatever the hell else you do in October. Nov: Getting damn cold again....bordering on cold as a witch's tit temps. Get your jacket back on again Pirate....or that grizzly bear pelt. Dec: Definitely back to cold as a witch's tit. Pirate, don't sweat it....global warming will start all over again in a few months. Print this and keep it in your pocket Pirate. Show it to a policeman if you get confused.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 23, 2009 13:01:18 GMT -6
Iowafan1 is such a stupid, ignorant fuckrod that he states as fact that "global warming" is a myth, when, as empirical fact, the earth has indeed been warming. The only "controversy" is the cause. The actual warming is not debatable. To witness someone so blinded by ideology that he cannot recognize easily discernible fact is to see someone who's skull might as well be filled with dog shit. Another incredible assertion by our resident shithead is the assertion that the government (aka "us") is subservient to the free market. Hey, jackass, if the "free market" decided that it was profitable to release cyanide gas into the air or to let Al Qaeda run wild with impunity, would you sacrifice your life to ensure that the big old bad government didn't interfere? Your fucking stupidity and total lack of intellectual rigor and honesty is insulting to rational human beings. Quit wasting our time and go beat off to your Coulter porn. As admirable as is your ability to use needless profanity every third word in your rants, it doesn't play well. It certainly isn't effective. Just out of curiosity, do your profanity laced intimidation tactics work with anyone in your life?...seriously....anyone at all? My guess is that people either routinely pat you on the head and tell you to go home to Mama or they just bitch slap you...neither here nor there though. www.cristgaming.com/pirate.swfYes Pirate...the earth has been warming...it is the warming cycle. History proves weather cycles have existed bince the beginning of time. We just finished a warm cycle and are getting ready for a cooling cycle...I suppose that will be call global cooling. By the way, you may want to look up the past few winters....record setting winters. The problem with you liberals is that you take everything to the extreme.....you are essentially the "boy that cried wolf". Just as a refresher so you don't get confused, the following is the weather calendar. I am doing this only as a public service: Jan: Cold as a witch's tit...wear a damn jacket Pirate. Feb: Still cold as a witch's tit...wear a damn jacket Pirate. Mar: Starting to warm a bit....don't worry Pirate....this is normal. Apr: Continuing to warm. Camping weather baby boy! Don't invite me Pirate...I don't go that way. May: Warming even a bit more. Break out the T-shirts. Jun: It's getting hot now...again...don't worry Pirate....happens every year. Jul: Hot as toast! Take the jacket off already Pirate. Aug: We're talking hot as lava now...again Pirate...step back from the ledge....we'll get a little global cooling shortly. Sep: Starting to cool back to "hot as toast" temps. See Pirate?...told you so. Oct: Cooling trend continuing...back to camping weather again. Pirate, this is a great time for you to climb a mountain...or save a life...or kill a grizzly bear...or whatever the hell else you do in October. Nov: Getting damn cold again....bordering on cold as a witch's tit temps. Get your jacket back on again Pirate....or that grizzly bear pelt. Dec: Definitely back to cold as a witch's tit. Pirate, don't sweat it....global warming will start all over again in a few months. Print this and keep it in your pocket Pirate. Show it to a policeman if you get confused. Your ignorance of science may be a badge of honor in the wingnut community, but to the rest of us, it just makes you a garden variety dumbshit. BTW, you now state that the earth is warming; but in the post that started this thread you claimed that the earth is instead cooling. So which is it?
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 23, 2009 14:04:05 GMT -6
As admirable as is your ability to use needless profanity every third word in your rants, it doesn't play well. It certainly isn't effective. Just out of curiosity, do your profanity laced intimidation tactics work with anyone in your life?...seriously....anyone at all? My guess is that people either routinely pat you on the head and tell you to go home to Mama or they just bitch slap you...neither here nor there though. www.cristgaming.com/pirate.swfYes Pirate... the earth has been warming...it is the warming cycle. History proves weather cycles have existed bince the beginning of time. We just finished a warm cycle and are getting ready for a cooling cycle...I suppose that will be call global cooling. By the way, you may want to look up the past few winters....record setting winters. The problem with you liberals is that you take everything to the extreme.....you are essentially the "boy that cried wolf". Just as a refresher so you don't get confused, the following is the weather calendar. I am doing this only as a public service: Jan: Cold as a witch's tit...wear a damn jacket Pirate. Feb: Still cold as a witch's tit...wear a damn jacket Pirate. Mar: Starting to warm a bit....don't worry Pirate....this is normal. Apr: Continuing to warm. Camping weather baby boy! Don't invite me Pirate...I don't go that way. May: Warming even a bit more. Break out the T-shirts. Jun: It's getting hot now...again...don't worry Pirate....happens every year. Jul: Hot as toast! Take the jacket off already Pirate. Aug: We're talking hot as lava now...again Pirate...step back from the ledge....we'll get a little global cooling shortly. Sep: Starting to cool back to "hot as toast" temps. See Pirate?...told you so. Oct: Cooling trend continuing...back to camping weather again. Pirate, this is a great time for you to climb a mountain...or save a life...or kill a grizzly bear...or whatever the hell else you do in October. Nov: Getting damn cold again....bordering on cold as a witch's tit temps. Get your jacket back on again Pirate....or that grizzly bear pelt. Dec: Definitely back to cold as a witch's tit. Pirate, don't sweat it....global warming will start all over again in a few months. Print this and keep it in your pocket Pirate. Show it to a policeman if you get confused. Your ignorance of science may be a badge of honor in the wingnut community, but to the rest of us, it just makes you a garden variety dumbshit. BTW, you now state that the earth is warming; but in the post that started this thread you claimed that the earth is instead cooling. So which is it? "has been" does not equate to "is". The libs don't even call it global warming anymore....it is now "climate change....take some time and read the talking points Pirate. By the way, are you sending your letters of disgust to algore, Kennedy, Edwards, Pilosi and the like who preach the whole man made global warming thing, but show just the opposite in their actions?....or is it just the "wingnuts" you would like to criticize?
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 23, 2009 14:37:52 GMT -6
Your ignorance of science may be a badge of honor in the wingnut community, but to the rest of us, it just makes you a garden variety dumbshit. BTW, you now state that the earth is warming; but in the post that started this thread you claimed that the earth is instead cooling. So which is it? "has been" does not equate to "is". The libs don't even call it global warming anymore....it is now "climate change....take some time and read the talking points Pirate. By the way, are you sending your letters of disgust to algore, Kennedy, Edwards, Pilosi and the like who preach the whole man made global warming thing, but show just the opposite in their actions?....or is it just the "wingnuts" you would like to criticize? The warming causes the climate change, goatfucker. The climate change is the relevant phenomenon, so that is the most appropriate term. It's like water causing flooding. The flooding is the problem. Duh. I don't give a fuck what "Pilosi" or Glenn Beck thinks. I care what the scientific consensus thinks. I don't care what Rush the Pill Popper thinks. I care what the guys at MIT think. Are you starting to get the fucking picture?
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 23, 2009 14:51:13 GMT -6
"has been" does not equate to "is". The libs don't even call it global warming anymore....it is now "climate change....take some time and read the talking points Pirate. By the way, are you sending your letters of disgust to algore, Kennedy, Edwards, Pilosi and the like who preach the whole man made global warming thing, but show just the opposite in their actions?....or is it just the "wingnuts" you would like to criticize? The warming causes the climate change, goatfucker. The climate change is the relevant phenomenon, so that is the most appropriate term. It's like water causing flooding. The flooding is the problem. Duh. I don't give a f**k what "Pilosi" or Glenn Beck thinks. I care what the scientific consensus thinks. I don't care what Rush the Pill Popper thinks. I care what the guys at MIT think. Are you starting to get the fucking picture? "goatfucker", "fuck" and "fucking" don't do much for your argument. It just shows the intellect of the ranter. If you "believe"...than "believe". Just don't go pretending that this is a consensus opinion....cause it ain't. You give me a scientist that proclaims it the truth...I'll give you one that proclaims it is a money making scam preying on suckers like you.
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 23, 2009 15:31:26 GMT -6
I care what the guys at MIT think. Are you starting to get the fucking picture? You mean guys like Richard Lindzen? ;D
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