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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 15, 2009 12:29:41 GMT -6
They filled up the plaza at the Fed building with an overflow crowd. There were some great signs there, too. I will try to find some pics later.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Apr 15, 2009 13:26:01 GMT -6
They had one here in Des Moines as well. Looked like a pretty large showing.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 15:41:07 GMT -6
They had one here in Des Moines as well. Looked like a pretty large showing. Yeah, about a tenth of the number of people who showed up to see Obama last November. I guess Obama-hate rallies don't have quite the pull of Obama-love rallies. Most, and by most I mean 99.9%, of the FOX-guzzling shitsuckers at these teabaggings (and really, what says "Republican" more than hairy balls shoved in an open mouth?) don't even know the meaning of the word "socialism." Ah, the smell of manufactured Republican outrage. Where the f**k were these ballsuckers the past 8 years?
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Apr 15, 2009 15:42:31 GMT -6
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Apr 15, 2009 15:45:30 GMT -6
Ah, the smell of manufactured Republican outrage. Where the f**k were these ballsuckers the past 8 years? At work.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 15:53:49 GMT -6
Ah, the smell of manufactured Republican outrage. Where the f**k were these ballsuckers the past 8 years? At work. Apparently not.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 15:57:41 GMT -6
That edited out the part where the fatfuck explained how Obama was a fascist because, well, he's a fascist. Stupid teabagging cumsuckers don't know the meaning of words. www.dailykostv.com/w/001167/Everybody with a brain, eyes and ears knows that this entire fucking charade is astroturf, not grassroots, promoted by Dick Armey's (how appropriate...Dick Armey & teabagging...awesome) FreedomWorks.org and FOX"news." You "conservatives" live in fucking fantasy world. These things you believe are fiction. Wake up.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 15, 2009 16:14:15 GMT -6
There was a ten minute anti-Dubya rant that got louder applause the anti-Fed rant. They were handing out signs that said "Government out of banks, out of businesses, out of bedrooms." These weren't your Jesus Camp attending Bible thumpin' big government conservatives, these people were just your average fiscal small government, social small government types and their message resonates pretty well across America, but does nothing to entrench the liberal fascist power brokers and their connected liberal fascist allies.
I talked to a dude who said this year's turnout was bigger than last year's.
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Post by socal on Apr 15, 2009 16:55:58 GMT -6
I predict a hangover similar to the one shortly after "Sarah Palin's OUR VP CANDIDATE!!!! Wicked Awesome!!!"
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 17:10:49 GMT -6
I gotta tell you, I'm just not feeling crispy.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Apr 15, 2009 18:40:21 GMT -6
That edited out the part where the fatfuck explained how Obama was a fascist because, well, he's a fascist. Stupid teabagging cumsuckers don't know the meaning of words. www.dailykostv.com/w/001167/Everybody with a brain, eyes and ears knows that this entire fucking charade is astroturf, not grassroots, promoted by Dick Armey's (how appropriate...Dick Armey & teabagging...awesome) FreedomWorks.org and FOX"news." You "conservatives" live in fucking fantasy world. These things you believe are fiction. Wake up. Oh my fucking God. Someone called The Prez a fascist? Shoot that mofo right now. The term fascist does fit but corporatist might be a bit closer. The corporate State considers that private enterprise in the sphere of production is the most effective and usefu [sic] [typo-should be: useful] instrument in the interest of the nation. In view of the fact that private organisation of production is a function of national concern, the organiser of the enterprise is responsible to the State for the direction given to production.
State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management. (pp. 135-136) B. Mussolini P.S. I love those lovable, patriotic Kossaks reporting The Troof.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 15, 2009 19:27:45 GMT -6
I gotta tell you, I'm just not feeling crispy. That's either a nice photoshop or the dude who hangs out at Chicago and Michigan with the "George Bush and the CIA are Watching Me" sign. I didn't see that dude's sign and I walked around as much as I could to try to cop a read of all the signs.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 20:01:14 GMT -6
That edited out the part where the fatfuck explained how Obama was a fascist because, well, he's a fascist. Stupid teabagging cumsuckers don't know the meaning of words. www.dailykostv.com/w/001167/Everybody with a brain, eyes and ears knows that this entire fucking charade is astroturf, not grassroots, promoted by Dick Armey's (how appropriate...Dick Armey & teabagging...awesome) FreedomWorks.org and FOX"news." You "conservatives" live in fucking fantasy world. These things you believe are fiction. Wake up. Oh my fucking God. Someone called The Prez a fascist? Shoot that mofo right now. The term fascist does fit but corporatist might be a bit closer. The corporate State considers that private enterprise in the sphere of production is the most effective and usefu [sic] [typo-should be: useful] instrument in the interest of the nation. In view of the fact that private organisation of production is a function of national concern, the organiser of the enterprise is responsible to the State for the direction given to production.
State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management. (pp. 135-136) B. Mussolini P.S. I love those lovable, patriotic Kossaks reporting The Troof. The point was that the fatman could not provide a definition of the term. A bunch of yahoos protesting shit they don't understand. Awesome.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Apr 15, 2009 20:23:15 GMT -6
The point was that the fatman could not provide a definition of the term. A bunch of yahoos protesting shit they don't understand. Awesome. I wouldn't expect everyone to know what's going on. I mean...look at the most recent elections.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 20:39:33 GMT -6
The point was that the fatman could not provide a definition of the term. A bunch of yahoos protesting shit they don't understand. Awesome. I wouldn't expect everyone to know what's going on. I mean...look at the most recent elections. Look at any election for that matter. You know who knows what's really going on? They pricks on K-Street who really own the government, and those of us who are aware of it. That would not include most of the teabaggers. These were anti-Obama hate rallies. Whatever, that's these fuckrods' American right. Let's just be intellectually honest about what FOX"news" et al was promoting. I know some of the jagoffs who were working the Des Moines teabagging. These idiots from my gym call Obama a "Marxist" and a "racist" and blame everything on him...and they DVR Glenn Beck. I'm not fucking shitting you. These grown men, in their 50's fucking hate Obama and whine about him like 7th graders whine about a principal, only watch FOX"news" and are proud of that fact, and DVR Glenn Beck. That's fucked up. I think I'll humiliate them tomorrow.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Apr 15, 2009 21:09:38 GMT -6
Hate rallies? Maybe for some. I know more than a few democraps who attended the rallies in Sacramento and Carson City though and they voted for Thee CEO. Ask those Glenn Beck loving gym rats what the ideological breakdown of their tea party was. I'm seriously interested. Interesting picture. What percentage of Americans consider themselves to be a Christian? My agnosticism doesn't prevent me from agreeing with the sign.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 21:27:35 GMT -6
Hate rallies? Maybe for some. I know more than a few democraps who attended the rallies in Sacramento and Carson City though and they voted for Thee CEO. Ask those Glenn Beck loving gym rats what the ideological breakdown of their tea party was. I'm seriously interested. Interesting picture. What percentage of Americans consider themselves to be a Christian? My agnosticism doesn't prevent me from agreeing with the sign. I'm interested too, because the only people who I know who were going teabagging are hard-core Obama haters. My Catholicism doesn't prevent me from recognizing that the allegedly (and probably) predominantly Christian founding fathers explicitly and deliberately purged our founding document, the constitution, of any reference to God and specifically Christ, and mentioned religion only in the context of keeping it and the state disentangled. So while the majority of Americans are indeed "Christian" in name or practice, this most certainly is not a "Christian nation." It's a nation with a lot of Christians living in it. Some of them want Christ codified, but they'll not get their wish. We are a democracy (constitutional representative republic, actually), not a theocracy, Mike Huckabee's wet dreams be damned.
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Post by socal on Apr 15, 2009 21:30:35 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 15, 2009 21:38:20 GMT -6
At least she's self-aware.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 15, 2009 21:44:31 GMT -6
Dude, please tell me you found that link on TPM or something and you didn't scour the internets for that POS story. That's gotta be some kind of a joke.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 15, 2009 21:48:14 GMT -6
Hate rallies? Maybe for some. I know more than a few democraps who attended the rallies in Sacramento and Carson City though and they voted for Thee CEO. Ask those Glenn Beck loving gym rats what the ideological breakdown of their tea party was. I'm seriously interested. Interesting picture. What percentage of Americans consider themselves to be a Christian? My agnosticism doesn't prevent me from agreeing with the sign. I'm interested too, because the only people who I know who were going teabagging are hard-core Obama haters. My Catholicism doesn't prevent me from recognizing that the allegedly (and probably) predominantly Christian founding fathers explicitly and deliberately purged our founding document, the constitution, of any reference to God and specifically Christ, and mentioned religion only in the context of keeping it and the state disentangled. So while the majority of Americans are indeed "Christian" in name or practice, this most certainly is not a "Christian nation." It's a nation with a lot of Christians living in it. Some of them want Christ codified, but they'll not get their wish. We are a democracy (constitutional representative republic, actually), not a theocracy, Mike Huckabee's wet dreams be damned. Chi-town is Obama's stompin' grounds and I didn't see a lot of explicit anti-Obama stuff around. There were some dudes like me and iammrhawkeyes. Some dudes who didn't like the Fed. Some dudes wearing tin foil hats. A pretty good mix. There were no Darth Vaders or Storm Troopers.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Apr 18, 2009 9:03:14 GMT -6
Besides the The Governator, the CA GOP chairman, and the governor of Utah getting booed at the rallies they attended (among others), here's a great video of Rep. Bailout Barrett(R) getting booed throughout his entire speech at the Greenville rally yesterday. Too bad the CNN reporters advocates and the racist Garafalo gang over at MSNBC have no fucking clue as to what's happenning. I think they're getting confused by the lack of American Flag burning and general violence that they're used to seeing at peaceful protests.
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Post by socal on Apr 19, 2009 9:15:34 GMT -6
The real tea party... www.thomhartmann.com/2009/04/15/the-real-boston-tea-party-was-against-the-wal-mart-of-the-1770s/There is a disconnect between the ones last week and this... I can't put my finger on it though. On a side note- some idiot, likely my neighbor, put out a Tea Party sign on the park entrance across the street. The first few lines - in the largest font - read (verbatim): Tea'd Off? Tax Ralley April 15th ---then it describes where & the freedom works funded website. I was going to take it down a few days ago, but I thought I'd let the Moran thing stand for a while. (Other remaining signs around town have a conspicuous strip of blue duct tape over the incorrect line. Morans
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 19, 2009 15:36:20 GMT -6
Besides the The Governator, the CA GOP chairman, and the governor of Utah getting booed at the rallies they attended (among others), here's a great video of Rep. Bailout Barrett(R) getting booed throughout his entire speech at the Greenville rally yesterday. Too bad the CNN reporters advocates and the racist Garafalo gang over at MSNBC have no fucking clue as to what's happenning. I think they're getting confused by the lack of American Flag burning and general violence that they're used to seeing at peaceful protests. Interesting video. I would have preferred they at least let the guy give his speech without the heckling. Now they have stooped to nearly the same level as the leftists on college campuses: online.wsj.com/article/SB124000847769030489.htmlCNN is just mad that several hundred protests were put together by freedom loving Americans and there was no property damage, rioting or deaths that have marred leftist run protests like at the recent G20 meeting.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 19, 2009 16:10:08 GMT -6
The disconnect is that you don't understand the difference between the big government neocon that CNN, MSNBC, the NYT, HuffPo and TPM paint as the stereotypical Republican and the people who attended the rallies. Were there some big government neocons there to voice displeasure against Obama? Most definitely, but in Chicago, most of the signs that I saw were railing against big government and bailouts and promoting Ron Paul. There were also several Ayn Rand inspired signs that said things like "I am John Galt" and "Atlas is Shrugging." If you read the article that you linked more closely, you'll see a clear resemblance between the mercantile system and the system that I have called liberal fascism (credit to Jonah Goldberg). This is a critical paragraph in that passage: Most of the members of the British government and royalty (including the king) were stockholders in the East India Company, so it was easy to get laws passed in its interests. Among the Company’s biggest and most vexing problems were American colonial entrepreneurs, who ran their own small ships to bring tea and other goods directly into America without routing them through Britain or through the Company. Between 1681 and 1773, a series of laws were passed granting the Company monopoly on tea sold in the American colonies and exempting it from tea taxes. Thus, the Company was able to lower its tea prices to undercut the prices of the local importers and the small tea houses in every town in America. But the colonists were unappreciative of their colonies being used as a profit center for the multinational corporation. To the extent the author attempts to draw comparisons to Wal-Mart, he fails miserably. Wal-Mart is not a government created monopoly. In fact, in many instances where Wal-Mart seeks to open a store, "grassroots movements" are generally funded by the local shopkeepers in the town to keep Wal-Mart out. Wal-Mart is also often the target of political activity aimed at making it less competitive by raising its marginal costs. The reason it became so successful in the first place is because it figured out a way to lower its marginal costs and sell deodorant, soap and other things people use everyday 10% cheaper than every other store. This is a vastly different business model than the East India Company, a government granted monopoly whose only real competitive advantage was that it had the world's most proficient navy enforcing its trade routes and monopoly courtesy of the British Treasury. If you've read the Wealth of Nations, please think back to Smith's discussion of the economic system of the mid to late 18th Century. He discussed scores of tariffs, taxes and import and export quotas and controls that politically connected men established to further their commercial interests. His final paragraph on the mercantile system read: It cannot be very difficult to determine who have been the contrivers of this whole mercantile system; not the consumers, we may believe, whose interest has been entirely neglected; but the producers, whose interest has been so carefully attended to; and among this latter class our merchants and manufacturers have been by far the principal architects. In the mercantile regulations, which have been taken notice of in this chapter, the interest of our manufacturers has been most peculiarly attended to; and the interest, not so much of the consumers, as that of some other sets of producers, has been sacrificed to it. I would be willing to bet that if you polled every libertarian leaning person who was at a tea party (who I think constituted a majority of the attendees in Chicago), 100% would have agreed with the sentiment that Smith articulated over 200 years ago is still applicable today and that the best way to stop such a system isn't through more government, which would give the merchant/ruling class more government to influence, but rather less government. I know of no small government advocates who are out there actively campaigning for the creation of government granted monopolies, do you?
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