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Post by Gumbyhawk on May 15, 2010 14:15:58 GMT -6
Anyone see this ad about Branstad on the top of this board?
What. The. Fuck?
Is there some way to prevent political ads from appearing on this forum? Jesus Corn-Shucking Christ.
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 15, 2010 17:25:54 GMT -6
I have to pay like $21 a month to get rid of ads - you can just get firefox and they go away. Is fucking Branstad really running for governor again? The fucking Republicans must be out of ideas and candidates if they're bringing that old fucker back.
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Post by poncho72 on May 15, 2010 17:58:39 GMT -6
yeah he's running again
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Post by Gumbyhawk on May 15, 2010 18:57:07 GMT -6
The GOPers actually found a candidate that I would NOT vote for against Culver. Congrats!
I'm not a fan of Culver, but I'll vote for him over Branstad.
If I were Culver I would campaign HARD on Branstad's behalf.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on May 16, 2010 9:53:17 GMT -6
I've grown to love asparagus.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 16, 2010 21:17:01 GMT -6
The GOPers actually found a candidate that I would NOT vote for against Culver. Congrats! I'm not a fan of Culver, but I'll vote for him over Branstad. If I were Culver I would campaign HARD on Branstad's behalf. Would you have voted for Vander Plaats? That dickless shithead is running on performing a blatantly unconstitutional act. Branstad has gotten doughy. Goddamn. He's a moron to leave his cush gig at DMU.
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Post by lpcalihawk on May 17, 2010 8:03:42 GMT -6
Doughy Brandstand is the only hope for the GOP against Chester.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on May 17, 2010 19:17:49 GMT -6
The GOPers actually found a candidate that I would NOT vote for against Culver. Congrats! I'm not a fan of Culver, but I'll vote for him over Branstad. If I were Culver I would campaign HARD on Branstad's behalf. Would you have voted for Vander Plaats? That dickless shithead is running on performing a blatantly unconstitutional act. Branstad has gotten doughy. Goddamn. He's a moron to leave his cush gig at DMU. FUUUUUUCK no I wouldn't vote for Vanderplats. I refuse to vote for some douchetard whose only real campaign platform is abolishing gay marriage. What. The. Fuck? Who cares??? As for Branstad. When I was 18 I registered as a GOPer just so I can vote against that POS in the primary. If that tells you anything on the chances of me ever voting for him.
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Post by NotMyKid on May 18, 2010 7:31:02 GMT -6
Speaking of Branstad, is his kid still alive or is he in jail somewhere?
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 18, 2010 7:36:34 GMT -6
Speaking of Branstad, is his kid still alive or is he in jail somewhere? Good question. When I went to juvie for boosting a bike, his kid was supposed to come through some court thing I had to do. Never showed up though. Probably got special treatment.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 18, 2010 10:46:55 GMT -6
Speaking of Branstad, is his kid still alive or is he in jail somewhere? Good question. When I went to juvie for boosting a bike, his kid was supposed to come through some court thing I had to do. Never showed up though. Probably got special treatment. He did get special treatment. I know all of the sordid details about the kill-by-car event because that fucking douche was buddies with a cousin of mine.
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Post by TBELL on Jun 4, 2010 12:55:08 GMT -6
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Post by lpcalihawk on Jun 4, 2010 13:06:34 GMT -6
No doubt Terry and his kid are fucking douchebags for the killing by car incident, but I would like to pose a somewhat serious question.
If you are a father in high places and you have a kid commit a crime which would lead to severe penalties, how do you not throw your weight around and get your kid special treatment? Granted, most of us will probably never be in that position and our kids will have to serve prole time if they get in deep shit with the law. However, if you had the ability to save your kid from getting ass-raped by Big Black Bubba, wouldn't you?
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Post by TBELL on Jun 4, 2010 13:08:32 GMT -6
I know former Polk County Sheriff Anderson had somewhat of a similar problem with his son too. I don't have kids, so I can's say for sure, but I would probably try.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Jun 4, 2010 18:12:23 GMT -6
No doubt Terry and his kid are fucking douchebags for the killing by car incident, but I would like to pose a somewhat serious question. If you are a father in high places and you have a kid commit a crime which would lead to severe penalties, how do you not throw your weight around and get your kid special treatment? Granted, most of us will probably never be in that position and our kids will have to serve prole time if they get in deep shit with the law. However, if you had the ability to save your kid from getting ass-raped by Big Black Bubba, wouldn't you? Honestly, probably not. I'm a big believer in if you fuck up, you fix it yourself or pay the price. Now if my kid was not really guilty and simply got fucked over by a douchebag lawyer, then yes... I would help him/her out. Then have the lawyer offed.
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Post by Stukat on Jun 8, 2010 14:23:22 GMT -6
Yes i would help. No son of mine is goign to end up in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.
Even if i was not a powerful person, i would bail the kid out with my last dollar and tell him to skip country for good instead of living his life in jail.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 8, 2010 18:32:33 GMT -6
Yes i would help. No son of mine is goign to end up in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison. Even if i was not a powerful person, i would bail the kid out with my last dollar and tell him to skip country for good instead of living his life in jail. Dude, I don't think so. I don't know if I tossed up the story about my step brother - my mom married his dad when I was in college so I've met the dude about 3 times in my life, but he seemed a little off to me and I have pretty god damned low standards. Anyway, dude's house got raided by the cops in Omahall and the dude skipped town. My stepdad found out it was over some kiddie pr0n. He gave his kid the benefit of the doubt. His kid finally turned himself in and was put on house arrest. Then the kid skipped town again after busting off the ankle bracelet. He got arrested again. Anyway, he had been leading my step dad along by saying shit like he was innocent and it wasn't anything bad and he wouldn't be in trouble and my step dad kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt, thinking shit wouldn't be too bad. So I worked with barber and we found him a lawyer who actually had tried a few of these cases over in Omahall. My stepdad came deep out of pocket for this lawyer. Anyway, a few weeks ago, my step dad went over to Omahall for the arraignment or guilty plea or something and in recounting the charges, the US Attorney said this dude's seized computer had 178 images and videos of 3-5 year old girls with penetration. And oh yeah, when he bolted town and got arrested, the cops found videos of kids he had taken at a swimming pool in Arizona in his possession. My stepdad called me up bawling (dude is 20 years military) and thanked me for helping find his kid a lawyer and said he probably was going to stop using the lawyer because his degenerate fuckup kid deserved to go to jail for the rest of his life and should never see the light of day again. Dude gets sentenced on July 19th and he is going to the federal pen for at least 15 years with supervised release for the rest of his life. My mom said my stepdad can't talk to his kid and he doesn't want to go to the sentencing because he doesn't want to be in the same room as him until he has had more time to cool down. So yeah, you can say right now you'd do whatever to protect your kid, but when the shit really hits the fan and your kid does something so fucking bad you can't even look at him or talk to him, maybe your mind would be changed. I'll post the press release the US Attorney's office puts out when the fucker gets sentenced. Anyone want to start an over under of how long in the pen that fuckstick will get?
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Jun 8, 2010 19:01:45 GMT -6
+1 on BTR's post. If my kid did something like that (God forbid) I ain't bailing him/her out. Tough shit. No way. Something like that is not a minor fuck up or a one-time deal you can blame on getting drunk.
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Post by thejesus on Jun 9, 2010 6:56:10 GMT -6
BTR's example is in the extreme. Aside from murder, rape and kiddie porn, I'd agree with Stukat's post 100%. And even with murder, rape or kiddie porn .... I would still be a support system for my kid (although I would agree that jail is where they deserve to be), and let them know that I still love them on a regular basis (I just wouldn’t help them to try to get out of it or skip town). Love is my ultimate authority and guiding principal. Its two purist expressions (compassion and forgiveness) are what I strive to obtain, and live by, more then anything else. This is especially true when it comes to friends and family. It’s trying to apply these principals to the rest of the world that I am really trying to work on (although I don’t do such a good job at it – i.e. Tex the redneck at the bar). Sorry to get off topic. I’m just trying to explain why I agree with Stukat’s post. I am believing more and more, everyday, that this world is just a learning opportunity. The lessons, we as souls, are here to learn can only be learned by us … and only if we are open to the experience of learning. Therefore, society’s systems of control (laws, prison, etc.) don’t hold any ultimate authority in my eyes. They just provide the catalyst that can possibly create a learning/growing opportunity for our true self/mind/soul. LOL … there is my soap box for the day. I’m feeling a metaphysical vibe today I guess. Peace.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Jun 9, 2010 8:06:48 GMT -6
I've never liked it when kids got special treatment by the law because of who their parents are. I saw it a lot in the small town I grew up in. 2 kids could be caught for the same offense, but one would get off because of Daddy and the other got the book thrown at them. Now having a son, my perspective may change a bit. I will definitely instill accountability and responsibility with my child; thus, getting the kid out of an underage drinking ticket is of no interest to me. Do the crime, serve the time in that instance.
In the BTR example, I completely understand how his stepdad feels completely betrayed by his son. Constantly being on his side only to find out his kid is complete sexual deviant......not fun, but an extreme example.
All in all, does it still make me uneasy and irritated that some people don't have to serve the time because of their parents or other influence, yes. But now as a father, am I starting to see the other side of the coin? Yes.
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Post by twine on Jun 9, 2010 10:34:27 GMT -6
Well, it looks like Branstad is going to be our next governor. His push to get ISU in the Big 10 proves his incompetence and he loses support of most Iowa fans in the state by pushing this stupidity.
Also, I think anyone who molests children should be tortured then killed, I don't care who you are. Some might say it's a "disease" to be a pedophile but if you are that fucked up maybe you should just be weeded out of the gene pool.
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Post by twine on Jun 9, 2010 10:35:39 GMT -6
BTR's example is in the extreme. Aside from murder, rape and kiddie porn, I'd agree with Stukat's post 100%. And even with murder, rape or kiddie porn .... I would still be a support system for my kid (although I would agree that jail is where they deserve to be), and let them know that I still love them on a regular basis (I just wouldn’t help them to try to get out of it or skip town). What if someone molested your kid? Do you think they should still be loved by anyone?
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Post by lpcalihawk on Jun 9, 2010 10:45:29 GMT -6
Not to split hairs, but BTR's step-brother isn't accused of molesting children. I believe he is being charged with possession of kiddie porn. Absolutely disgusting, but I don't think he is touching the kids.
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Post by twine on Jun 9, 2010 10:55:32 GMT -6
Not to split hairs, but BTR's step-brother isn't accused of molesting children. I believe he is being charged with possession of kiddie porn. Absolutely disgusting, but I don't think he is touching the kids. Good point, but still he is supporting touching kids. I don't think he should be tortured and killed but he should be in jail/mental ward. He is propogating the act by aquiring whatever media it was he was viewing. I really feel bad for BTR's step-dad, that would have to be hard to see you son turn into that type of person.
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Post by thejesus on Jun 9, 2010 12:19:10 GMT -6
BTR's example is in the extreme. Aside from murder, rape and kiddie porn, I'd agree with Stukat's post 100%. And even with murder, rape or kiddie porn .... I would still be a support system for my kid (although I would agree that jail is where they deserve to be), and let them know that I still love them on a regular basis (I just wouldn’t help them to try to get out of it or skip town). What if someone molested your kid? Do you think they should still be loved by anyone? Yes. It would be hard for that person to be me. But I would hope that someone would still show the person love, and through that love the person could grow and change for the better. It would not be so easy to say that if that situation occurred though. That’s why I always admire people who forgive the people that have killed their loved ones. My emotional side would be overcome with rage at the person who did it, and for the effects that it would have on my son. I’m sure I would have to try pretty damn hard to suppress that rage. But at the same time, my philosophical/spiritual side firmly believes that forgiveness and compassion would be warranted. I look at it like this (simplified): The universe is way too fucking big to wrap my head around (billions of galaxies, with billions of stars, with billions of planets – essentially an infinite amount of suns/planets). All scientific evidence points to this emerging from a single point (a singularity), otherwise known as a big bang. The fact that all of the matter that is in the universe (or multiverse more likely, IMO) originated from this singularity is just simply unfathomable to the human mind. There just isn’t any satisfactory explanation that could explain it (again, only IMHO). This leads me to acknowledge the high probability of some sort of intelligent design/creator/god/source (call it what you want). If you get to the point where you can accept that (which I think I have now, but am always open to changing/reconsidering my stance), then you have to start asking questions like: “What is the point?” “Why am I here?” “Why is there so much sorrow and evil in the world?” These questions are spiritual by nature, and any possible answers are also going to be spiritual by nature (again, IMHO). By asking these questions, there are two likely paths of thinking to go down: 1) There is some sort of intelligent design/creator/god/source and our reality is part of its plan/design/experiment. 2) There is no intelligent design/creator/god/source and everything is absolutely 100% random. We are products of chaos and evolution. I simply can’t believe #2 anymore. Although I admit that I did for quite a long time. I just can’t get past how a singularity can explode from a single point to encompass material billions upon billions of light years across. That is my biggest reason. Secondary supporting reasons for this belief encompass things like psychic abilities, near death experiences, out of body experiences, past life recall, ghosts, UFO’s, and pretty much all things paranormal. So my current thinking is that option 1 has to be the most likely option, in fact I believe it can be the only option. If you can follow me to getting to this point, then I can better explain why my answer to your question is yes. Everything that follows is assuming option 1 is truth: What is the point? There are a lot of different possible answers to this. Some people say that we are all really individuated portions/shards of the same god/source/consciousness. The point is that this god/source/consciousness is essentially a timeless state of being in which all possibilities can occur and are known. It already knows everything. What it is/was missing is the actual experience of these possibilities/probabilities. I don’t pretend to know if that is true, but it sounds plausible to me. Why am I here? Again, lots of possible answers. The one I believe is most likely is … we are here to experience catalysts, from which to learn/grow, in order to better understand our true self, and ultimately god/source. Why is there so much sorrow and evil in the world? Once again, lots of possible answers. The one I currently think holds the most credibility is … because we live in a reality dominated by duality. God/Satan, Day/Night, Love/Hate, Good/Evil, Life/Death, Matter/Anti-Matter, Yin/Yang. The purpose of the duality is EXPERIENCE. This experience provides a catalyst. Through this catalyst, you hopefully learn/grow according to what your true self wants to experience and learn from. I believe in reincarnation, and I believe that we have a say, to a certain extent, as to what happens to us in our lifetimes (of course there is always free will, karmic considerations, and other concepts I am not even aware of). Through duality you learn why good is good, why evil is evil, why anything is anything. Not only do you learn, but you get to experience/feel it. I believe that once you get back to god/source, duality no longer exists, only pure love (almost all the spiritual leaders who have lived on Earth say this). The purpose could very well be to experience these concepts, learn from them, and learn why love HAS to be the only way. And if it isn’t? If all of what I just said above is bullshit? Well …. then I’m sorry that I exist in this place to begin with. If the kind of evil that exists in this world is normal, then I don’t want to play anymore. Because really, what would be the fucking point? Some of the most fucked up shit in the world can happen to people who are genuinely good and live their lives by good principles. If that shit just happens, for no fucking reason, then funk that. And even if that is the case (which I really don’t think it is), then I’m still going to try to live a noble life, and find solace in beliefs/values that resonate with my core self. I believe love is that center, so I will continue to try to live in a way that is representative of that. So, yah, Twine, I do hope someone loves that guy. I even hope that someone would be myself. Sorry for the rant. I’m on weird vibe today. I feel like waxing philosophical.
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