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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jan 11, 2014 16:17:52 GMT -6
Thoughts BTR??? Empire writer Lawrence Kasdan is writing the next Star Wars movie, which will take place after Jedi, which means that anything that was written about the EU after Yavin will become obsolete. Disney has hired nerds to go through the EU and determine what stays canonical and what goes. It's unclear at this point what in the EU will be pitched out into the trash, and what will be promoted to canon. When asked, Chee himself responded that he can't say when fans will be able to see the results the trim's impact on the universe's lore. Still, it's a safe assumption that every single bit of EU story set after The Return of the Jedi will have to go—and, for the most part, good riddance to it, because almost all of it is terrible.
Ironically, nuking all post-RotJ material would remove Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, which Lucasfilm authorized and provided limited collaboration on. Zahn's three books are easily the best of the often-literally-vomit-inducing tie-in novels, but they also are set shortly after the events of RotJ and deal specifically with the aftermath of the fall of the Empire. Losing them would mean losing some of the best content the EU has to offer; it would also, however, mean considerably more latitude in following up Episodes IV-VI.arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/op-ed-disney-takes-a-chainsaw-to-the-star-wars-expanded-universe/ |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jan 11, 2014 16:32:44 GMT -6
Thoughts BTR??? Empire writer Lawrence Kasdan is writing the next Star Wars movie, which will take place after Jedi, which means that anything that was written about the EU after Yavin will become obsolete. Disney has hired nerds to go through the EU and determine what stays canonical and what goes. It's unclear at this point what in the EU will be pitched out into the trash, and what will be promoted to canon. When asked, Chee himself responded that he can't say when fans will be able to see the results the trim's impact on the universe's lore. Still, it's a safe assumption that every single bit of EU story set after The Return of the Jedi will have to go—and, for the most part, good riddance to it, because almost all of it is terrible.
Ironically, nuking all post-RotJ material would remove Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, which Lucasfilm authorized and provided limited collaboration on. Zahn's three books are easily the best of the often-literally-vomit-inducing tie-in novels, but they also are set shortly after the events of RotJ and deal specifically with the aftermath of the fall of the Empire. Losing them would mean losing some of the best content the EU has to offer; it would also, however, mean considerably more latitude in following up Episodes IV-VI.arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/op-ed-disney-takes-a-chainsaw-to-the-star-wars-expanded-universe/Dude, our chances are slim, but I think we need to buy $2k of Disney stock and try to get this on the proxy. Fuck, I just checked the proxy and we missed the window: FUCKThey can't fucking do this. The Thrawn trilogy is a better story than all but about 30 minutes of the damn prequels. I think we need a full on strike. I am reminded of the time I saw the Storm Troopers walking around and I found out they were going to a Zahn signing at a bookstore. I, of course, rolled in and listened to Zahn's inspiring speech, in which he apologized to some total dickbag who was dressed like Darth Vader. The d-bags in star wars outfits actually got to stand behind him during his speech and I don't think I've ever seen a bigger group of losers, save for the hot chick who was dressed as Mara Jade. But anyway, some fucktard with a face that contained more oil than a crankcase asked about some god damned plot line hole in one of Zahn's books that developed as a result of the prequels. Zahn seemed like a very normal dude, and you could tell he was liek "not this shit again." Anyway, he stopped the loser before he even finished his question and said "every Star Wars author is told that their novels are like children's toys sitting on George Lucas's driveway. The driveway represents the Star Wars universe. When George Lucas goes down the driveway, he's going to run over some toys and destroy them, but it is just a fact of getting the license to publish a Star Wars book. Now, no more questions about plot holes that arose from the prequels." I can deal with that. I can deal with Lucas, as the brainchild of the Star Wars universe saying "fuck this, I'm making a movie and if I shit on someone's book, fuck it." What I can't deal with is some dickbag stiff at Disney making that determination. They're going to ruin the fucking thing and I'm sure they'll have some asshat child psychologist make sure every fucking movie has just the right amount of kid friendliness and secret messages about sharing is caring and other such bullshit. God damn it. |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jan 11, 2014 16:41:00 GMT -6
It doesn't look liek some Disney cockstuffer will be making the determination on what happens after Jedi. Nor will it be Lucas, which is, frankly, also a good thing. Kasdan seems liek a guy who can trust not to fuck it up, since Lucas let him write Empire, Jedi, and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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Post by Ginger on Jan 11, 2014 16:42:11 GMT -6
Fucking Star Wars nerds.
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Post by #70 on Jan 11, 2014 16:42:16 GMT -6
what. the. fuck.
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Post by twinlaker on Jan 11, 2014 16:56:30 GMT -6
Ghost and the Counselor are Star Wars nerds.....who would have thunk?! |
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Post by LansingHawk on Jan 11, 2014 17:02:41 GMT -6
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jan 11, 2014 17:10:19 GMT -6
Plz reserve this thread for comments on the destruction of the Star Wars EU only. If you want to call us nerds, plz use another threads.
Thx
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jan 11, 2014 17:14:05 GMT -6
It doesn't look liek some Disney cockstuffer will be making the determination on what happens after Jedi. Nor will it be Lucas, which is, frankly, also a good thing. Kasdan seems liek a guy who can trust not to fuck it up, since Lucas let him write Empire, Jedi, and Raiders of the Lost Ark. When you run roughshod over the Thrawn Trilogy, you fuck it up. Save that, shit on the rest like all the kids and shit. Fine. But the Thrawn Trilogy is fucking sacred. For fucks sake, turn the damn thing into an animated movie or something to capitalize on it - the content is already there. If they're using the original cast for this next movie, there is gonna have to be a big gap in the stories anyway and the Thrawn Trilogy happened 9 ABY, but this next movie is gonna have to be set at least 20 ABY, prolly more liek 30 ABY. |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jan 11, 2014 18:19:21 GMT -6
It doesn't look liek some Disney cockstuffer will be making the determination on what happens after Jedi. Nor will it be Lucas, which is, frankly, also a good thing. Kasdan seems liek a guy who can trust not to fuck it up, since Lucas let him write Empire, Jedi, and Raiders of the Lost Ark. When you run roughshod over the Thrawn Trilogy, you fuck it up. Save that, shit on the rest like all the kids and shit. Fine. But the Thrawn Trilogy is fucking sacred. For fucks sake, turn the damn thing into an animated movie or something to capitalize on it - the content is already there. If they're using the original cast for this next movie, there is gonna have to be a big gap in the stories anyway and the Thrawn Trilogy happened 9 ABY, but this next movie is gonna have to be set at least 20 ABY, prolly more liek 30 ABY. Agreed. I would prefer any new movies to focus on either the Old Republic (Sith-Jedi wars) or well into the New Republic (the new Jedi order, well past the story of the Skywalkers and Solos). Any attempt to Dick Sargent the classic characters will fail miserably, and JJ Abrahms has already used the "Alternate Timeline" trick for Star Trek. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jan 11, 2014 19:07:29 GMT -6
When you run roughshod over the Thrawn Trilogy, you fuck it up. Save that, shit on the rest like all the kids and shit. Fine. But the Thrawn Trilogy is fucking sacred. For fucks sake, turn the damn thing into an animated movie or something to capitalize on it - the content is already there. If they're using the original cast for this next movie, there is gonna have to be a big gap in the stories anyway and the Thrawn Trilogy happened 9 ABY, but this next movie is gonna have to be set at least 20 ABY, prolly more liek 30 ABY. Agreed. I would prefer any new movies to focus on either the Old Republic (Sith-Jedi wars) or well into the New Republic (the new Jedi order, well past the story of the Skywalkers and Solos). Any attempt to Dick Sargent the classic characters will fail miserably, and JJ Abrahms has already used the "Alternate Timeline" trick for Star Trek. Here's the problem. You can bet your ass that whatever they do that if they plan to make it through another trilogy, Skywalker will fucking win some shit and get kilt at some point near the end. The movies blew their entire load when Vader proclaimed to be Luke's father. It ain't gonna get better than that. I mean, shit, there is a huge problem with going down some new path and that is lack of developed characters. Vader is probably the supreme badass of every fucking movie ever made. You can't top him. I mean the whole first 6 movies were solely about the rise and fall of the guy. Plus Yoda. People fucking loved Yoda. But he dead. Hell, even Boba Fett has a cult following. We saw what happened in the prequel round when they tried to make new characters. They all fucking sucked. All of them. Jar Jar. Mace. Darth Maul. Count Dookie. General Grievous. The prequel was worth watching because it focused on the Vader story arc and had dudes from episodes 4-6 that made it. My guess is this next set is just gonna be a pile of dogshit with the Star Wars logo on it. |
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 11, 2014 20:41:56 GMT -6
Star Wars sans Vader = Fran sans temper i.e. what's the fucking point.
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Post by Aborted Cyclone Fetus on Jan 11, 2014 20:52:17 GMT -6
This thread is funny because I actually know what they are talking about.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jan 11, 2014 20:54:20 GMT -6
Star Wars sans Vader = Fran sans temper i.e. what's the fucking point. Yep. You could see them try so hard to make the siths and bad guys awesome in the prequels, but they all sucked compared to Vader. Honestly, is there a bigger badass evil guy in any fucking movie? And without a truly fucking badass evil guy and not one but two moon sized spaceships that could destroy a fucking planet, do you even have enough there to make a movie? |
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Post by Aborted Cyclone Fetus on Jan 11, 2014 21:00:00 GMT -6
Well, my goal one day when I had time was to read most of the EU. I have read the Thrawn books but otherwise I have only read one other. Guess I don't need to worry about reading them anymore. Maybe JJ will do what he did with Star Trek and create alternate timelines and the EU shit can live on a separate timeline.
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Post by egadsto on Jan 11, 2014 21:50:13 GMT -6
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Post by egadsto on Jan 11, 2014 21:52:42 GMT -6
Star Wars sans Vader = Fran sans temper i.e. what's the fucking point. Yep. You could see them try so hard to make the siths and bad guys awesome in the prequels, but they all sucked compared to Vader. Honestly, is there a bigger badass evil guy in any fucking movie? And without a truly fucking badass evil guy and not one but two moon sized spaceships that could destroy a fucking planet, do you even have enough there to make a movie?  |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jan 11, 2014 22:08:36 GMT -6
Star Wars sans Vader = Fran sans temper i.e. what's the fucking point. Yep. You could see them try so hard to make the siths and bad guys awesome in the prequels, but they all sucked compared to Vader. Honestly, is there a bigger badass evil guy in any fucking movie? And without a truly fucking badass evil guy and not one but two moon sized spaceships that could destroy a fucking planet, do you even have enough there to make a movie? I thought the story of Obi-Wan could have been better in the pre's, but for the most part they made him a dickless idiot with nothing to do half the time. However, I disagree that the original trilogy wasn't about Vader, it was about Luke, and the cliche bullshit about Campbell's hero archetypes which are as transparent as Angie's yoga pants. Shit, in New Hope, Vader was nothing but a mid-level functionary who, while he looks cool, is ultimately defeated by someone he had no business defeating him. The only difference between him and Darth Maul was they killed off Maul, but let Vader live. Only in Empire to they make him the galaxy's ultimate badass. My favorite movie with Vader was Attack of the Clones, because in Ep 1 he was a retarded kid, in Ep 3 he was a whiny pussy complaining about his job to his boss. But in Ep 2 he was an arrogant prick who was angry all the time yet somehow wound up with an unspeakably hot chick, which is basically makes him the high school jock enemy of every Star Wars fan alive, so I thought it was a pretty accurate portrayal of adolescent angst. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jan 11, 2014 22:11:55 GMT -6
DA-FUQ did you just say about Vader?
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jan 11, 2014 22:15:04 GMT -6
DA-FUQ did you just say about Vader? U herd me phaggot. U wan fite me bitch?  |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jan 11, 2014 22:18:25 GMT -6
I am drunk with power after banning clown poasters today. Query whether you want to press your luck, pal. One moar banning and I may come down with small cock mod-itis.
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Post by egadsto on Jan 11, 2014 22:20:10 GMT -6
Yep. You could see them try so hard to make the siths and bad guys awesome in the prequels, but they all sucked compared to Vader. Honestly, is there a bigger badass evil guy in any fucking movie? And without a truly fucking badass evil guy and not one but two moon sized spaceships that could destroy a fucking planet, do you even have enough there to make a movie? I thought the story of Obi-Wan could have been better in the pre's, but for the most part they made him a dickless idiot with nothing to do half the time. However, I disagree that the original trilogy wasn't about Vader, it was about Luke, and the cliche bullshit about Campbell's hero archetypes which are as transparent as Angie's yoga pants. Shit, in New Hope, Vader was nothing but a mid-level functionary who, while he looks cool, is ultimately defeated by someone he had no business defeating him. The only difference between him and Darth Maul was they killed off Maul, but let Vader live. Only in Empire to they make him the galaxy's ultimate badass. My favorite movie with Vader was Attack of the Clones, because in Ep 1 he was a retarded kid, in Ep 3 he was a whiny pussy complaining about his job to his boss. But in Ep 2 he was an arrogant prick who was angry all the time yet somehow wound up with an unspeakably hot chick, which is basically makes him the high school jock enemy of every Star Wars fan alive, so I thought it was a pretty accurate portrayal of adolescent angst.  |
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Post by Stan's Field on Jan 11, 2014 22:21:52 GMT -6
I fucking doubt either one of yous even lyfts stuff with the force...
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Post by egadsto on Jan 11, 2014 22:23:02 GMT -6
I fucking doubt either one of yous even lyfts stuff with the force...  |
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Post by Stan's Field on Jan 11, 2014 22:26:04 GMT -6
Yep. You could see them try so hard to make the siths and bad guys awesome in the prequels, but they all sucked compared to Vader. Honestly, is there a bigger badass evil guy in any fucking movie? And without a truly fucking badass evil guy and not one but two moon sized spaceships that could destroy a fucking planet, do you even have enough there to make a movie? I thought the story of Obi-Wan could have been better in the pre's, but for the most part they made him a dickless idiot with nothing to do half the time. However, I disagree that the original trilogy wasn't about Vader, it was about Luke, and the cliche bullshit about Campbell's hero archetypes which are as transparent as Angie's yoga pants. Shit, in New Hope, Vader was nothing but a mid-level functionary who, while he looks cool, is ultimately defeated by someone he had no business defeating him. The only difference between him and Darth Maul was they killed off Maul, but let Vader live. Only in Empire to they make him the galaxy's ultimate badass. My favorite movie with Vader was Attack of the Clones, because in Ep 1 he was a retarded kid, in Ep 3 he was a whiny pussy complaining about his job to his boss. But in Ep 2 he was an arrogant prick who was angry all the time yet somehow wound up with an unspeakably hot chick, which is basically makes him the high school jock enemy of every Star Wars fan alive, so I thought it was a pretty accurate portrayal of adolescent angst. Anakin should've berryd it so deepin padme's ass.... |
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