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Post by Ginger on Dec 17, 2014 19:18:36 GMT -6
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Dec 17, 2014 19:23:28 GMT -6
Kurt needs a raise.
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Post by egadsto on Dec 17, 2014 19:27:32 GMT -6
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Post by Other on Dec 17, 2014 19:30:21 GMT -6
Makes sense and a smart move if true (I hope it's not).
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Post by Stan's Field on Dec 17, 2014 20:33:35 GMT -6
I herd thay offered Kurt 7.5
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 17, 2014 22:11:20 GMT -6
Something liek this could straight up ruin collej football...
Once Harbaugh gets 8 million, Saban's gonna want it, and Urban's gonna want it, and Jimbo's gonna want it. Suddenly, when the top dawgs are making 8 mil, that means the little fish are gonna get bigger crumbs, and SEC schools are gonna start shelling out 6 million for a 8-4 coach, and so on down the line, until the average Big 5 coach is making 4-5 million. Then shit bag school liek Illinois, who will be firing their coach, suddenly has to spend twice as much as they should for a guy, and they can't afford it because they have a buyout to pay for and only 1,500 season ticket holders.
Oh, and because coaches are making big bank, if a coach wants to keep a decent coordinator happy, he now has to double his salary. And the mid-majors? They don't have any TV money, so they can't pay their coaches jack shit, and any decent MAC coach can triple his salary when Illinois is desperate for any one to take their job, and the gap between the halves and nots grows huge. Speaking of have nots, the players who are already bitching about not making any coin get super pissed when their coach is making even moar, and so unrest grows on that front.
Hey look, fast forward 5-8 years...the cable bubble has burst, and subscription revenue from conference TV deals plummets, along with stadium attendance continuing to dwindle for all but a few national powers. Suddenly, the takers in the conference system, the Iowas, Texas Techs, and Washington States of the world, they can't generate enough revenue to cover all of the money they committed to exorbitant coaches salaries and ridiculous and unnecessary Olympic-level training facilities. The system collapses under the weight of its own greed, and one super conference containing the 12-15 teams still financially viable becomes a reality, and all of the talent and money follows them, and for 90% of the rest of the FBS, football becomes a fucking club sport where like 40 guys have partial scholarships.
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Post by Stan's Field on Dec 17, 2014 22:23:45 GMT -6
Too long, read, but too fucking long and ghey...
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 18, 2014 7:48:33 GMT -6
Too long, read, but too fucking long and ghey... Do you even have books in Gayard? |
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Post by Stan's Field on Dec 18, 2014 8:00:25 GMT -6
Yup, and NONE of them R the ghey....
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Post by Stan's Field on Dec 18, 2014 8:24:10 GMT -6
HWY 30 goes everywhere
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 18, 2014 8:44:22 GMT -6
Do you even have books in Gayard? Billy, haz u evar been to Bared, via US-30 or other routes? I know Laker has. U? I didn't even no where it was, until I Googled it just now...way teh fuck in Western Iowa SteveKingistan. The only town west of I-35 I have evar spent time in is Creston. It was a dump, but I was trying to FWB my ex girlfriend who moved there. |
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Dec 18, 2014 8:44:52 GMT -6
Something liek this could straight up ruin collej football... Once Harbaugh gets 8 million, Saban's gonna want it, and Urban's gonna want it, and Jimbo's gonna want it. Suddenly, when the top dawgs are making 8 mil, that means the little fish are gonna get bigger crumbs, and SEC schools are gonna start shelling out 6 million for a 8-4 coach, and so on down the line, until the average Big 5 coach is making 4-5 million. Then shit bag school liek Illinois, who will be firing their coach, suddenly has to spend twice as much as they should for a guy, and they can't afford it because they have a buyout to pay for and only 1,500 season ticket holders. Oh, and because coaches are making big bank, if a coach wants to keep a decent coordinator happy, he now has to double his salary. And the mid-majors? They don't have any TV money, so they can't pay their coaches jack shit, and any decent MAC coach can triple his salary when Illinois is desperate for any one to take their job, and the gap between the halves and nots grows huge. Speaking of have nots, the players who are already bitching about not making any coin get super pissed when their coach is making even moar, and so unrest grows on that front. Hey look, fast forward 5-8 years...the cable bubble has burst, and subscription revenue from conference TV deals plummets, along with stadium attendance continuing to dwindle for all but a few national powers. Suddenly, the takers in the conference system, the Iowas, Texas Techs, and Washington States of the world, they can't generate enough revenue to cover all of the money they committed to exorbitant coaches salaries and ridiculous and unnecessary Olympic-level training facilities. The system collapses under the weight of its own greed, and one super conference containing the 12-15 teams still financially viable becomes a reality, and all of the talent and money follows them, and for 90% of the rest of the FBS, football becomes a fucking club sport where like 40 guys have partial scholarships. How is that much different than now? As long as scholarship limits are in place there will still be plenty of meat for erebody else to fight over. The top 10-15 get all the elite talent now and erebody else fights over the scraps. |
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Post by egadsto on Dec 18, 2014 9:27:20 GMT -6
I didn't even no where it was, until I Googled it just now...way teh fuck in Western Iowa SteveKingistan. The only town west of I-35 I have evar spent time in is Creston. It was a dump, but I was trying to FWB my ex girlfriend who moved there. FWB is either "Friends With Benefits" or "Fuck While Barfing" which?? Funky White Boys!  |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 18, 2014 9:35:48 GMT -6
Something liek this could straight up ruin collej football... Once Harbaugh gets 8 million, Saban's gonna want it, and Urban's gonna want it, and Jimbo's gonna want it. Suddenly, when the top dawgs are making 8 mil, that means the little fish are gonna get bigger crumbs, and SEC schools are gonna start shelling out 6 million for a 8-4 coach, and so on down the line, until the average Big 5 coach is making 4-5 million. Then shit bag school liek Illinois, who will be firing their coach, suddenly has to spend twice as much as they should for a guy, and they can't afford it because they have a buyout to pay for and only 1,500 season ticket holders. Oh, and because coaches are making big bank, if a coach wants to keep a decent coordinator happy, he now has to double his salary. And the mid-majors? They don't have any TV money, so they can't pay their coaches jack shit, and any decent MAC coach can triple his salary when Illinois is desperate for any one to take their job, and the gap between the halves and nots grows huge. Speaking of have nots, the players who are already bitching about not making any coin get super pissed when their coach is making even moar, and so unrest grows on that front. Hey look, fast forward 5-8 years...the cable bubble has burst, and subscription revenue from conference TV deals plummets, along with stadium attendance continuing to dwindle for all but a few national powers. Suddenly, the takers in the conference system, the Iowas, Texas Techs, and Washington States of the world, they can't generate enough revenue to cover all of the money they committed to exorbitant coaches salaries and ridiculous and unnecessary Olympic-level training facilities. The system collapses under the weight of its own greed, and one super conference containing the 12-15 teams still financially viable becomes a reality, and all of the talent and money follows them, and for 90% of the rest of the FBS, football becomes a fucking club sport where like 40 guys have partial scholarships. How is that much different than now? As long as scholarship limits are in place there will still be plenty of meat for erebody else to fight over. The top 10-15 get all the elite talent now and erebody else fights over the scraps. Because as it stands right now, Iowa State has $25 million to build additions to their stadium and give their coach a $20 million contract, and they are the ultimate takers from the system. In the scenario I'm laying out, a fucking school like this won't be able to fucking shell out scholarship money, let alone pay a coach or build onto a stadium. The choice between, say, Iowa and Ohio State will be like choosing between an offer from the NFL or the XFL. No srs player is going to pick the XFL team because they grew up a fan, or because they like the coach, or because their high school teammate goes there. |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 18, 2014 9:37:18 GMT -6
I didn't even no where it was, until I Googled it just now...way teh fuck in Western Iowa SteveKingistan. The only town west of I-35 I have evar spent time in is Creston. It was a dump, but I was trying to FWB my ex girlfriend who moved there. FWB is either "Friends With Benefits" or "Fuck While Barfing" which?? In this scenario, it stands for "Ball down on her if you fail to seal the deal with her hotter sister". |
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Post by NotMyKid on Dec 18, 2014 9:48:14 GMT -6
How is that much different than now? As long as scholarship limits are in place there will still be plenty of meat for erebody else to fight over. The top 10-15 get all the elite talent now and erebody else fights over the scraps. Because as it stands right now, Iowa State has $25 million to build additions to their stadium and give their coach a $20 million contract, and they are the ultimate takers from the system. In the scenario I'm laying out, a fucking school like this won't be able to fucking shell out scholarship money, let alone pay a coach or build onto a stadium. The choice between, say, Iowa and Ohio State will be like choosing between an offer from the NFL or the XFL. No srs player is going to pick the XFL team because they grew up a fan, or because they like the coach, or because their high school teammate goes there. I understand your view, but you also need to remember that we are talking football and something that is a live sporting event. Which is one of the few things on TV (if not the only thing) that most people still watch live. That's a huge deal for advertisers and is why the money train isn't ending anytime soon. What you seem to be missing is the Ohio State's, Alabama's, and Oregon's of the world still have the same 85 scholarship limit as everyone else. Your NFL to XFL comparison doesn't hold up as there are far more quality football players to go around then just the Top 10 schools in the country right now. The scenario you are saying is coming isn't going to be then end all and will never happen the way you lay it out. Those top 15 schools all still need to schedule games and the other "lesser" teams in the conferences will benefit. Don't get me wrong it's a much more realistic situation for ISU than it is Iowa. Not because Iowa doesn't have the same issue being in a low population state but the agreement of the sharing of revenue between all schools. That is something that could really fuck over the Big 12 with how they handled the LHN and Texas. Your point about the MAC is valid however as the gap between the power 5 conferences and the mid major conferences is sure to continue to grow at least when it comes down to money being made. |
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Dec 18, 2014 9:52:11 GMT -6
How is that much different than now? As long as scholarship limits are in place there will still be plenty of meat for erebody else to fight over. The top 10-15 get all the elite talent now and erebody else fights over the scraps. Because as it stands right now, Iowa State has $25 million to build additions to their stadium and give their coach a $20 million contract, and they are the ultimate takers from the system. In the scenario I'm laying out, a fucking school like this won't be able to fucking shell out scholarship money, let alone pay a coach or build onto a stadium. The choice between, say, Iowa and Ohio State will be like choosing between an offer from the NFL or the XFL. No srs player is going to pick the XFL team because they grew up a fan, or because they like the coach, or because their high school teammate goes there. So yer saying the best players are going to choose between a handful of blue blood programs year after year.... So again how is that different than now? I mean the Mac still has plenty of kids who want to play fooseball and the difference between Mac schools and OSU ain't much different than Wut you are describing. Plus the "cable bubble" in relation to college sports is vastly overstated. Schools won't see continued revenue growth at the levels they have seen in the last decade but shit ain't gonna go backwards. The only TV worth anything to advertisers anymore is live sports. It's virtually the only thing that viewers don't watch time shifted and the only thing that still holds significant value for advertisers, especially in the coveted M 18-34 demo. As long as college football and basketball continue to receive eyeballs the people in control of the content will find ways to properly monetize it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 10:42:06 GMT -6
Billy, haz u evar been to Bared, via US-30 or other routes? I know Laker has. U? I didn't even no where it was, until I Googled it just now...way teh fuck in Western Iowa SteveKingistan. The only town west of I-35 I have evar spent time in is Creston. It was a dump, but I was trying to FWB my ex girlfriend who moved there. Please describe what you mean by a dump? A dump like the quad cities or worse like Waterloo level of a dump? Plus, I am calling bullshit on the "The only town west of I-35" line. You recently said you spent time in Ames which is west of I-35 on highway 30. |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 18, 2014 10:43:40 GMT -6
Because as it stands right now, Iowa State has $25 million to build additions to their stadium and give their coach a $20 million contract, and they are the ultimate takers from the system. In the scenario I'm laying out, a fucking school like this won't be able to fucking shell out scholarship money, let alone pay a coach or build onto a stadium. The choice between, say, Iowa and Ohio State will be like choosing between an offer from the NFL or the XFL. No srs player is going to pick the XFL team because they grew up a fan, or because they like the coach, or because their high school teammate goes there. I understand your view, but you also need to remember that we are talking football and something that is a live sporting event. Which is one of the few things on TV (if not the only thing) that most people still watch live. That's a huge deal for advertisers and is why the money train isn't ending anytime soon. What you seem to be missing is the Ohio State's, Alabama's, and Oregon's of the world still have the same 85 scholarship limit as everyone else. Your NFL to XFL comparison doesn't hold up as there are far more quality football players to go around then just the Top 10 schools in the country right now. The scenario you are saying is coming isn't going to be then end all and will never happen the way you lay it out. Those top 15 schools all still need to schedule games and the other "lesser" teams in the conferences will benefit. Don't get me wrong it's a much more realistic situation for ISU than it is Iowa. Not because Iowa doesn't have the same issue being in a low population state but the agreement of the sharing of revenue between all schools. That is something that could really fuck over the Big 12 with how they handled the LHN and Texas. Your point about the MAC is valid however as the gap between the power 5 conferences and the mid major conferences is sure to continue to grow at least when it comes down to money being made. Football is a TV revenue sport, true, but there will come a point when the money is so big, that those making the money won't want to share anymore. There is a reason all Communist systems collapse into themselves. When revenues drop, and maybe they won't drop catastrophically like I have prophesied, but they will drop, will OSU, Michigan, and Penn St feel like sharing money with Northwestern, Rutgers, and Illinois? Delaney has done a good job keeping that from happening, but he won't be around forever. At some point, the makers are going to take their money and run, and the takers, who have been lavishly subsidizing their programs with ridiculous excess (like the South Endzone project), will be stuck, dick in hand. Honestly, the details are irrelevant, and there is just too much money floating around, and soon greed will make the whole thing crash. I think paying coaches 8 million a year could be the catalyst, but maybe it won't be. Something will though. And this super conference of takers will probably start paying players, and the takers of the world will probably struggle to provide scholarships, so the gap between the two will be reeeedonk. |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 18, 2014 10:45:28 GMT -6
I didn't even no where it was, until I Googled it just now...way teh fuck in Western Iowa SteveKingistan. The only town west of I-35 I have evar spent time in is Creston. It was a dump, but I was trying to FWB my ex girlfriend who moved there. Please describe what you mean by a dump? A dump like the quad cities or worse like Waterloo level of a dump? Plus, I am calling bullshit on the "The only town west of I-35" line. You recently said you spent time in Ames which is west of I-35 on highway 30. Well, technically, teh Dez is west of I-35. It doesn't count if they're touching, you queef bubble. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 18, 2014 10:48:45 GMT -6
Aww, man, Fitz just came in his pants. His salary is calculated on a formula based on the top 4 paychecks in the conference. Dude's gonna get liek a half a million dollah raise for going 5-7. What's that in your pocket, Kurt, jelly? How's your $25k bowl bonus look now?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 10:51:17 GMT -6
Please describe what you mean by a dump? A dump like the quad cities or worse like Waterloo level of a dump? Plus, I am calling bullshit on the "The only town west of I-35" line. You recently said you spent time in Ames which is west of I-35 on highway 30. Well, technically, teh Dez is west of I-35. It doesn't count if they're touching, you queef bubble. no its not. Not so good with geography are you? Look at a map. The Dez is east of 35 with 35 running along the west and north ends of the the DM burbs. geesh |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 10:52:18 GMT -6
Aww, man, Fitz just came in his pants. His salary is calculated on a formula based on the top 4 paychecks in the conference. Dude's gonna get liek a half a million dollah raise for going 5-7. What's that in your pocket, Kurt, jelly? How's your $25k bowl bonus look now? Kurt should be fitz's DC. |
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Dec 18, 2014 10:53:35 GMT -6
Well, technically, teh Dez is west of I-35. It doesn't count if they're touching, you queef bubble. no its not. Not so good with geography are you? Look at a map. The Dez is east of 35 with 35 running along the west and north ends of the the DM burbs. geesh I do not recognize the legitimacy of I-80/35, and I will straight up murder anyone who tries to force me. |
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Post by NotMyKid on Dec 18, 2014 10:59:52 GMT -6
I understand your view, but you also need to remember that we are talking football and something that is a live sporting event. Which is one of the few things on TV (if not the only thing) that most people still watch live. That's a huge deal for advertisers and is why the money train isn't ending anytime soon. What you seem to be missing is the Ohio State's, Alabama's, and Oregon's of the world still have the same 85 scholarship limit as everyone else. Your NFL to XFL comparison doesn't hold up as there are far more quality football players to go around then just the Top 10 schools in the country right now. The scenario you are saying is coming isn't going to be then end all and will never happen the way you lay it out. Those top 15 schools all still need to schedule games and the other "lesser" teams in the conferences will benefit. Don't get me wrong it's a much more realistic situation for ISU than it is Iowa. Not because Iowa doesn't have the same issue being in a low population state but the agreement of the sharing of revenue between all schools. That is something that could really fuck over the Big 12 with how they handled the LHN and Texas. Your point about the MAC is valid however as the gap between the power 5 conferences and the mid major conferences is sure to continue to grow at least when it comes down to money being made. Football is a TV revenue sport, true, but there will come a point when the money is so big, that those making the money won't want to share anymore. There is a reason all Communist systems collapse into themselves. When revenues drop, and maybe they won't drop catastrophically like I have prophesied, but they will drop, will OSU, Michigan, and Penn St feel like sharing money with Northwestern, Rutgers, and Illinois? Delaney has done a good job keeping that from happening, but he won't be around forever. At some point, the makers are going to take their money and run, and the takers, who have been lavishly subsidizing their programs with ridiculous excess (like the South Endzone project), will be stuck, dick in hand. Honestly, the details are irrelevant, and there is just too much money floating around, and soon greed will make the whole thing crash. I think paying coaches 8 million a year could be the catalyst, but maybe it won't be. Something will though. And this super conference of takers will probably start paying players, and the takers of the world will probably struggle to provide scholarships, so the gap between the two will be reeeedonk. Again the chances of OSU, Michigan, and PSU or any other school in the Big Ten saying they are leaving isn't going to happen not just because of football but because of everything else that being a member of the Big Ten means to schools. That goes way beyond $ that football generates. NOW........ Is it possible that Texas and Okie with their own networks tell the rest of the Big 12 to pound sand? sure, but not super likely. And the paying of players if that does happen will kill the MAC's of the world and the shitty teams with no revenue (ISU) but Iowa will be fine as long as the Big Ten doesn't blow up which let's face it isn't going to happen. |
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