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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Mar 4, 2015 9:07:26 GMT -6
Solar farms are built, operated, and owned by utilities and/or The Invisible Hand. I don't need to spend my own money on solar when my providers are spending theirs. Hmmm.. When has norf cackalacky heard something similar to this. Or yea. Slavery and your utility is your master and you are The author of this is a worthless piece of shit Jim. Yeeesaah
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Post by Solar Stud on Mar 4, 2015 12:07:05 GMT -6
"There were 13,000 businesses in the wagon and carriage industry in 1890."
Anti-solar folks...enjoy that buggy whip you're so stubbornly holding onto.
It'll make a great conservation piece, right along with your pay phone, PDA, film, encyclopedias, and phone books.
Merge, acquire, adapt, adopt or die.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 14:13:22 GMT -6
The first practical solar cell was invented in 1954. How long after the invention of the automobile were horse and carraige still the norm? Teams of our top scientists have been working on this for 60 years and solar is still a miniscule fraction of the power generated in the world.
Problem efficiency?
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Mar 4, 2015 15:32:52 GMT -6
The first practical solar cell was invented in 1954. How long after the invention of the automobile were horse and carraige still the norm? Teams of our top scientists have been working on this for 60 years and solar is still a miniscule fraction of the power generated in the world. Problem efficiency? Well, if you're looking at it like that, self-propelled automobiles were developed as early as the 18th century. The problem was finding a suitable engine to power it, bince steam engines were not feasible for smaller transport. The internal combustion engine wasn't developed until the 1880's, nor was a battery capable of powering a car. However, once those were developed, it was still about 30 years before production techniques made the automobile commercially affordable to the majority of consumers. In Europe, it wasn't until the Marshall Plan that horse-drawn transport stopped being popular. So to answer your question, it was over 200 years approximately, between the invention of the car and the demise of the horse and buggy.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 15:42:07 GMT -6
This is an apple Billy. Those are oranges. I think we can agree that your 18th century horseless caraiges were not exactly automobiles. The 1954 solar cell was not very different at all from what is being made today. Lets say benz had the first practical automobile in 1886. the model T was out in 1909, and the model A had put the horse completly out to pasture by 1927. That is 41 years to completly eclipse the previous technology. In the case of solar cells, we are into it 60 years and have not made any real progress in replacing other means of generation. As of 2013, solar accounted for 0.23 percent of electicity generated in the US.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 16:22:56 GMT -6
Yep, we will be long gone before that waste fuel makes it out of the various swimming pools they are currently keeping it in. Cirrhosis of the liver and all, plus you will likely outlive your dogs, so why worry beyond then?
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Post by egadsto on Mar 4, 2015 16:34:39 GMT -6
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 16:36:13 GMT -6
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Mar 4, 2015 17:55:43 GMT -6
The first practical solar cell was invented in 1954. How long after the invention of the automobile were horse and carraige still the norm? Teams of our top scientists have been working on this for 60 years and solar is still a miniscule fraction of the power generated in the world. Problem efficiency? Well, if you're looking at it like that, self-propelled automobiles were developed as early as the 18th century. The problem was finding a suitable engine to power it, bince steam engines were not feasible for smaller transport. The internal combustion engine wasn't developed until the 1880's, nor was a battery capable of powering a car. However, once those were developed, it was still about 30 years before production techniques made the automobile commercially affordable to the majority of consumers. In Europe, it wasn't until the Marshall Plan that horse-drawn transport stopped being popular. So to answer your question, it was over 200 years approximately, between the invention of the car and the demise of the horse and buggy. This guy is smart.
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 21:17:27 GMT -6
So let's just stick with coal, crude, and fracking. MUCH safer and cleaner than nuclear. Never tried, never failed.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 21:43:59 GMT -6
The first practical solar cell was invented in 1954. How long after the invention of the automobile were horse and carraige still the norm? Teams of our top scientists have been working on this for 60 years and solar is still a miniscule fraction of the power generated in the world. Problem efficiency? Bigger problems may be cost and availability (scarcity) of the rare earth metals that solar cells require. Not sure efficiency is the top hindrance to widespread adoption of solar technology. There is efficiency to be consider in the manufacturing process as well plasix king. In this case, the cost of production has come down quite a bit in the last decade, but the outputs are still too low to make this go without gubmint handouts.
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 21:51:00 GMT -6
When and where did that happen? I'll hang up and listen for the answer. Ktks. pfffttchhhh
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 21:52:52 GMT -6
When and where did that happen? I'll hang up and listen for the answer. Ktks. pfffttchhhh Y R U messing with him so much? It's like you're just saying things to rile him up....
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 21:53:12 GMT -6
Y R U messing with him so much? It's like you're just saying things to rile him up.... Well......
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 21:53:24 GMT -6
Y R U messing with him so much? It's like you're just saying things to rile him up.... Well...... Well what?
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 21:53:36 GMT -6
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 21:54:01 GMT -6
What? If there were high value in solar, there would be no need for the gubment to foot the bill for it. There may be value in the future, but I honestly think fusion will be the real source of energy in the future.
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 21:54:25 GMT -6
What? If there were high value in solar, there would be no need for the gubment to foot the bill for it. There may be value in the future, but I honestly think fusion will be the real source of energy in the future. PFD?
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 21:58:06 GMT -6
Personal flotation device?
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 22:03:13 GMT -6
who is pretending? Lockheed announced recently that they think they will have a fusion reactor that could fit in a truck bed within a decade. I trust them to get it done more than those DOE stooges I met with at Sandia.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Mar 4, 2015 22:19:12 GMT -6
Can't type on phone^^^^^^
Lololollllloloololllllllllllllllol
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 4, 2015 22:19:52 GMT -6
I can hardly wait.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Mar 4, 2015 22:26:42 GMT -6
Can't type on phone^^^^^^ Lololollllloloololllllllllllllllol SHUT THE FUCK UP STUPID JEFF I ain't stupid pal. I won geeks who drink trivia one time.
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 22:28:25 GMT -6
Personal flotation device? I thought you were an engineer, my bad.
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Post by Stan's Field on Mar 4, 2015 22:29:17 GMT -6
Can't type on phone^^^^^^ Lololollllloloololllllllllllllllol SHUT THE FUCK UP STUPID JEFF You're both less than extraordinary.
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