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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Feb 24, 2022 15:54:00 GMT -6
Hey Car manufacturers. Fix yo shit. I want a new fucking car and won't pay above MSRP you fuckers. At least used cars are starting to slide on the wholesale market a little bit. Retail still is fucking bonkers, but at least there is a sign shit is getting fixed. Near me Ford has a lot holding mostly completed F150's waiting for chips and little shit and the past 2 weeks they've been removing about 150 a day from this lot. They have about a dozen in KC holding around 25k total trucks waiting for that shit.
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Post by socal on Feb 24, 2022 19:24:57 GMT -6
Hey Car manufacturers. Fix yo shit. I want a new fucking car and won't pay above MSRP you fuckers. At least used cars are starting to slide on the wholesale market a little bit. Retail still is fucking bonkers, but at least there is a sign shit is getting fixed. Near me Ford has a lot holding mostly completed F150's waiting for chips and little shit and the past 2 weeks they've been removing about 150 a day from this lot. They have about a dozen in KC holding around 25k total trucks waiting for that shit. Feeling better about my purchase everyday.
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Post by Ginger on Feb 16, 2023 14:54:21 GMT -6
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Post by socal on Jun 4, 2023 7:12:36 GMT -6
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Post by Ginger on Jun 5, 2023 8:10:19 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 14, 2023 21:03:56 GMT -6
Apparently Toyota has developed a solid state battery that gets upwards of 900 miles and recharges in 10 minutes and they plan to roll it out within the next 5 years.
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Post by socal on Jun 15, 2023 9:47:33 GMT -6
Apparently Toyota has developed a solid state battery that gets upwards of 900 miles and recharges in 10 minutes and they plan to roll it out within the next 5 years. Wonder if they finally figured out the way to use the nanotubes. That tech came out in the 90's??? Basically nanotubes create an amazingly large static surface area - plug it in and is pretty instant. They had only theorized something like your normal AA, etc. batteries - but scaled up, this sounds similar. Awesome if true.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 15, 2023 10:50:31 GMT -6
Apparently Toyota has developed a solid state battery that gets upwards of 900 miles and recharges in 10 minutes and they plan to roll it out within the next 5 years. Wonder if they finally figured out the way to use the nanotubes. That tech came out in the 90's??? Basically nanotubes create an amazingly large static surface area - plug it in and is pretty instant. They had only theorized something like your normal AA, etc. batteries - but scaled up, this sounds similar. Awesome if true. www.thedrive.com/news/toyotas-planned-solid-state-batteries-to-provide-900-miles-of-range
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Jun 15, 2023 13:10:37 GMT -6
So now we only need to quadruple the electrical generation capacity of our country and build infrastructure to distribute it everywhere. Got it.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 15, 2023 13:18:07 GMT -6
So now we only need to quadruple the electrical generation capacity of our country and build infrastructure to distribute it everywhere. Got it. I see dollar signs
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Jun 15, 2023 13:24:00 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, new battery tech will make huge changes to to what is possible with EVs, but until we get fusion worked out, the transformation ain't happening.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 15, 2023 13:31:49 GMT -6
So now we only need to quadruple the electrical generation capacity of our country and build infrastructure to distribute it everywhere. Got it. I see dollar signs Of course you do. The volume of grift off of government programs this could make available will be so big that it will make Dick Cheney's grift look like a molehill next to Mount Everest.
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Post by socal on Jun 15, 2023 15:48:14 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, new battery tech will make huge changes to to what is possible with EVs, but until we get fusion worked out, the transformation ain't happening. Why? How many miles do you think people drive everyday? While they would still need to store the daily consumption amounts, 0.00000000000000001% of the global population would ever approach driving 900 miles/day where the existing power load couldn't already accommodate. I'm more on the pessimistic side with the batteries becoming a reality. It was predicted 20 years ago... 10 years ago... and now is just around the corner in around 10 years. Again, would love for them to become real.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 15, 2023 15:58:54 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, new battery tech will make huge changes to to what is possible with EVs, but until we get fusion worked out, the transformation ain't happening. Why? How many miles do you think people drive everyday? While they would still need to store the daily consumption amounts, 0.00000000000000001% of the global population would ever approach driving 900 miles/day where the existing power load couldn't already accommodate. I'm more on the pessimistic side with the batteries becoming a reality. It was predicted 20 years ago... 10 years ago... and now is just around the corner in around 10 years. Again, would love for them to become real. Scaling it will be tough and lithium mining ain't no spring picnic. I've dabbled in electric RC cars on and off for 30+ years and the leaps in battery technology are astronomical. The electric power plant is superior to ICE and the lack of a transmission is great for the cars, but the batteries and physics behind moving the electricity around the grid are two really serious problems.
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Post by Other on Jun 15, 2023 16:32:00 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, new battery tech will make huge changes to to what is possible with EVs, but until we get fusion worked out, the transformation ain't happening. Why? How many miles do you think people drive everyday? While they would still need to store the daily consumption amounts, 0.00000000000000001% of the global population would ever approach driving 900 miles/day where the existing power load couldn't already accommodate. I'm more on the pessimistic side with the batteries becoming a reality. It was predicted 20 years ago... 10 years ago... and now is just around the corner in around 10 years. Again, would love for them to become real. I wouldn’t think about it too hard. Sioux was wrong about the viability of wind and solar and he’s wrong about the need for fusion to make electric vehicles viable for a larger portion of the population. Can you imagine the viability arguments people could have made against petroleum as a power source? “You mean you expect people to pump this black stuff up from BENEATH the bottom of the ocean from permanent platforms we will have to build in the fucking ocean? Then we have to ship it to HUGE FUCKING factories we will have to construct where it is laboriously converted into something useable and THEN we have to ship it all over the fucking world and then distribute it to millions of underground tanks?” But, yeah, charging your car in your garage with existing infrastructure is a bridge too far. Eyeroll emoji
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 15, 2023 16:52:36 GMT -6
Why? How many miles do you think people drive everyday? While they would still need to store the daily consumption amounts, 0.00000000000000001% of the global population would ever approach driving 900 miles/day where the existing power load couldn't already accommodate. I'm more on the pessimistic side with the batteries becoming a reality. It was predicted 20 years ago... 10 years ago... and now is just around the corner in around 10 years. Again, would love for them to become real. I wouldn’t think about it too hard. Sioux was wrong about the viability of wind and solar and he’s wrong about the need for fusion to make electric vehicles viable for a larger portion of the population. Can you imagine the viability arguments people could have made against petroleum as a power source? “You mean you expect people to pump this black stuff up from BENEATH the bottom of the ocean from permanent platforms we will have to build in the fucking ocean? Then we have to ship it to HUGE FUCKING factories we will have to construct where it is laboriously converted into something useable and THEN we have to ship it all over the fucking world and then distribute it to millions of underground tanks?” But, yeah, charging your car in your garage with existing infrastructure is a bridge too far. Eyeroll emoji When petroleum was first conceived as a fuel source there were abundant supplies very near the surface in a lot of locales. The scale of refineries was also incredibly small. Scale came with time and wasn't driven by a government mandate, but rather the sheer usefulness and value of oil for kerosene and gasoline. Using existing infrastructure to charge multiple cars is a problem of physics. Copious amounts of electricity need large lines to move and existing neighborhoods would likely need widescale revamps to create a proper rationing mechanism to ensure they don't blow up all the infrastructure if multiple cars plug in at once. The draw from a battery that can get 900 miles of range and charge in 10 minutes will be astronomical, but if technology advances to the point where everyone has a 900 mile range battery the required rationing would be palatable because presumably people wouldn't need to worry about where they were in line to get a charge in most instances. I don't know precisely what it would draw, but my guess is that if you plugged in two, maybe three, of them at the same time on one of those residential green transformers you'd blow that sumnabitch sky high. It's not an insurmountable problem that can't be overcome, but the b00merinos are leaving behind one helluva deferred maintenance problem on basically every major piece of infrastructure and resource allocation for building out the grid to handle the flow could be astronomical relative to resources available for other shit that will be more pressing and immediate. Not much need for electric cars if all the bridges are inoperable.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Jun 15, 2023 20:29:33 GMT -6
I am not wrong about our inability to generate and distribute enough electricity to power all cars with electricity without a major breakthrough in production technology. Just look at California if you want to see a current example of the problem.
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Post by socal on Jun 17, 2023 5:49:56 GMT -6
I wouldn’t think about it too hard. Sioux was wrong about the viability of wind and solar and he’s wrong about the need for fusion to make electric vehicles viable for a larger portion of the population. Can you imagine the viability arguments people could have made against petroleum as a power source? “You mean you expect people to pump this black stuff up from BENEATH the bottom of the ocean from permanent platforms we will have to build in the fucking ocean? Then we have to ship it to HUGE FUCKING factories we will have to construct where it is laboriously converted into something useable and THEN we have to ship it all over the fucking world and then distribute it to millions of underground tanks?” But, yeah, charging your car in your garage with existing infrastructure is a bridge too far. Eyeroll emoji When petroleum was first conceived as a fuel source there were abundant supplies very near the surface in a lot of locales. The scale of refineries was also incredibly small. Scale came with time and wasn't driven by a government mandate, but rather the sheer usefulness and value of oil for kerosene and gasoline. Using existing infrastructure to charge multiple cars is a problem of physics. Copious amounts of electricity need large lines to move and existing neighborhoods would likely need widescale revamps to create a proper rationing mechanism to ensure they don't blow up all the infrastructure if multiple cars plug in at once. The draw from a battery that can get 900 miles of range and charge in 10 minutes will be astronomical, but if technology advances to the point where everyone has a 900 mile range battery the required rationing would be palatable because presumably people wouldn't need to worry about where they were in line to get a charge in most instances. I don't know precisely what it would draw, but my guess is that if you plugged in two, maybe three, of them at the same time on one of those residential green transformers you'd blow that sumnabitch sky high. It's not an insurmountable problem that can't be overcome, but the b00merinos are leaving behind one helluva deferred maintenance problem on basically every major piece of infrastructure and resource allocation for building out the grid to handle the flow could be astronomical relative to resources available for other shit that will be more pressing and immediate. Not much need for electric cars if all the bridges are inoperable. Again, you guys are missing the point. Yes, if everyone plugged their drained 900 mile battery powered car in at once - there would be an infrastructure issue. NOBODY drives 900 miles/day on a regular basis - if ever, so there would be minimal instantaneous draw. I'm not looking for the statement of what was theorized... 10-90% capacity in 10 min or thereabouts. So 15 seconds-1 min of draw would suffice to fulfill an average commuter recharge. Even if a crappy 110 outlet was used, and that charge time is quadrupled - holy fuck. McDonalds drive through standards better increase to deal with all the impatient MFers. Secondly - Batteries can also be storage and suppliers of energy. ---again, not all 900 miles of energy will be used at once - and if people keep their cars plugged in, the network meets the infinite power grid scalability goals we have long sought.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Jun 17, 2023 11:56:47 GMT -6
I am not talking about instantaneous demand. I am just talking daily megawats produced and consumed. They dont add up.
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Post by Stan's Field on Jun 20, 2023 11:00:59 GMT -6
Crazy how all these cities like Des Moines can continue expanding and yet there's still adequate electrical grid cap? The new businesses must not draw much amperage. Maybe they all use 10w bulbs now or something..?
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Post by livingintheusa on Jun 22, 2023 20:37:26 GMT -6
Bro buying an affordable ev vehicle by somebody in the living years is a pipe dream.
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Post by Logan Roy’s Bastard Son on Jul 31, 2023 19:29:38 GMT -6
Anyone looking for a like new Tesla? After a little work one will be coming up soon in Phoenix where the hot, dry weather and no winter road salt spares body-destroying rust. Slight water damage but nothing that won’t go away soon in the desert.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 1, 2023 0:04:53 GMT -6
Anyone looking for a like new Tesla? After a little work one will be coming up soon in Phoenix where the hot, dry weather and no winter road salt spares body-destroying rust. Slight water damage but nothing that won’t go away soon in the desert. I honestly don't trust any product sold by that fucking nut job. I'll take my chances with GM or the Asians
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Post by Ginger on Oct 7, 2023 8:51:09 GMT -6
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Post by Logan Roy’s Bastard Son on Nov 29, 2023 4:45:16 GMT -6
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