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Post by socal on Apr 16, 2023 9:27:09 GMT -6
Can they keep him there and we get a better president who isn't a center right leaning shit goblin? Once the parties merged in 1992 your choices basically became "center right who wants slightly higher taxes and legal abortion" or "center right who wants slightly lower taxes and no abortion." The economic system that the career mainline politburos are going to usher in is going to be some horrific form of neo-feudalism where there is no middle class and everyone is either elite or a serf and a very precarious concept of what we consider "middle class" will exist only for government functionaries. California, Chicago and New York (around NYC) are all pretty far down this path. It is going to be amazing to see how the deglobalization trend impacts this development. Works here too... https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/12od20y/npcs_conversation/
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Post by LansingHawk on Apr 16, 2023 10:02:46 GMT -6
Can they keep him there and we get a better president who isn't a center right leaning shit goblin? Once the parties merged in 1992 your choices basically became "center right who wants slightly higher taxes and legal abortion" or "center right who wants slightly lower taxes and no abortion." The economic system that the career mainline politburos are going to usher in is going to be some horrific form of neo-feudalism where there is no middle class and everyone is either elite or a serf and a very precarious concept of what we consider "middle class" will exist only for government functionaries. California, Chicago and New York (around NYC) are all pretty far down this path. It is going to be amazing to see how the deglobalization trend impacts this development. The group that wants no abortion and slightly lower taxes is way beyond center right.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Apr 16, 2023 17:11:51 GMT -6
Once the parties merged in 1992 your choices basically became "center right who wants slightly higher taxes and legal abortion" or "center right who wants slightly lower taxes and no abortion." The economic system that the career mainline politburos are going to usher in is going to be some horrific form of neo-feudalism where there is no middle class and everyone is either elite or a serf and a very precarious concept of what we consider "middle class" will exist only for government functionaries. California, Chicago and New York (around NYC) are all pretty far down this path. It is going to be amazing to see how the deglobalization trend impacts this development. The group that wants no abortion and slightly lower taxes is way beyond center right. Das ist richtig.
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Post by Other on Apr 16, 2023 20:37:38 GMT -6
The group that wants no abortion and slightly lower taxes is way beyond center right. Das ist richtig. I did nazi that coming!
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 16, 2023 23:52:54 GMT -6
Can they keep him there and we get a better president who isn't a center right leaning shit goblin? Once the parties merged in 1992 your choices basically became "center right who wants slightly higher taxes and legal abortion" or "center right who wants slightly lower taxes and no abortion." The economic system that the career mainline politburos are going to usher in is going to be some horrific form of neo-feudalism where there is no middle class and everyone is either elite or a serf and a very precarious concept of what we consider "middle class" will exist only for government functionaries. California, Chicago and New York (around NYC) are all pretty far down this path. It is going to be amazing to see how the deglobalization trend impacts this development. Rural Iowa is already there. You've got the ag wealth increasingly concentrated in the landed gentry (I just sold decent, not spectacular, farm land for 21K/acre) who receive loads of transfer payments as their land skyrockets in value; the barriers to entry are so high that the only youth entering farming are able only via family wealth and connections. The rest of the talented younguns flee the second they graduate as their hometowns become increasingly stifling, reactionary, and completely bereft of economic opportunity. Some try to stick it out or return to create businesses to inject some vitality into these towns, but they inevitably fail despite valiant efforts. Iron law of the market. You've got some teachers, maybe a lawyer and accountant, and that's about it for a professional class. The rest of the graduating generation settles into menial prole lives of quiet desperation, and the void is filled by booze, drugs and Fox News. Like Obama said, they cling to their virtue-signaling guns and misinterpreted bibles, but their towns grow deeper into disrepair, the kids get dumber with each successive generation, and they robotically vote for politicians who represent only the landed gentry that lords over them, distracted by reactionary, fascist propaganda fed to them by the very elites they claim to so vehemently despise. If you want to see actual feudalism in action, right here and now, come on back to Otho and take a look for yourself.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 17, 2023 6:53:54 GMT -6
Once the parties merged in 1992 your choices basically became "center right who wants slightly higher taxes and legal abortion" or "center right who wants slightly lower taxes and no abortion." The economic system that the career mainline politburos are going to usher in is going to be some horrific form of neo-feudalism where there is no middle class and everyone is either elite or a serf and a very precarious concept of what we consider "middle class" will exist only for government functionaries. California, Chicago and New York (around NYC) are all pretty far down this path. It is going to be amazing to see how the deglobalization trend impacts this development. Rural Iowa is already there. You've got the ag wealth increasingly concentrated in the landed gentry (I just sold decent, not spectacular, farm land for 21K/acre) who receive loads of transfer payments as their land skyrockets in value; the barriers to entry are so high that the only youth entering farming are able only via family wealth and connections. The rest of the talented younguns flee the second they graduate as their hometowns become increasingly stifling, reactionary, and completely bereft of economic opportunity. Some try to stick it out or return to create businesses to inject some vitality into these towns, but they inevitably fail despite valiant efforts. Iron law of the market. You've got some teachers, maybe a lawyer and accountant, and that's about it for a professional class. The rest of the graduating generation settles into menial prole lives of quiet desperation, and the void is filled by booze, drugs and Fox News. Like Obama said, they cling to their virtue-signaling guns and misinterpreted bibles, but their towns grow deeper into disrepair, the kids get dumber with each successive generation, and they robotically vote for politicians who represent only the landed gentry that lords over them, distracted by reactionary, fascist propaganda fed to them by the very elites they claim to so vehemently despise. If you want to see actual feudalism in action, right here and now, come on back to Otho and take a look for yourself. No disagreement there. You need massive economies of scale to farm now and virtually everyone intelligent who isn't sitting on an inheritance of at least a couple thousand acres has bolted. The country as a whole is at the point where the only places there is a viable middle class left is in the secondary towns that weren't too tied at the hip with a single manufacturer that left where there is abundant land to sprawl infinitely. Des Moines, Omaha, Kansas City, Birmingham, Greenville, Richmond, Columbus, etc. Even places like Peoria and Champaign are just absolutely fucked.
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Post by Stan's Field on Apr 17, 2023 7:24:04 GMT -6
Once the parties merged in 1992 your choices basically became "center right who wants slightly higher taxes and legal abortion" or "center right who wants slightly lower taxes and no abortion." The economic system that the career mainline politburos are going to usher in is going to be some horrific form of neo-feudalism where there is no middle class and everyone is either elite or a serf and a very precarious concept of what we consider "middle class" will exist only for government functionaries. California, Chicago and New York (around NYC) are all pretty far down this path. It is going to be amazing to see how the deglobalization trend impacts this development. Rural Iowa is already there. You've got the ag wealth increasingly concentrated in the landed gentry (I just sold decent, not spectacular, farm land for 21K/acre) who receive loads of transfer payments as their land skyrockets in value; the barriers to entry are so high that the only youth entering farming are able only via family wealth and connections. The rest of the talented younguns flee the second they graduate as their hometowns become increasingly stifling, reactionary, and completely bereft of economic opportunity. Some try to stick it out or return to create businesses to inject some vitality into these towns, but they inevitably fail despite valiant efforts. Iron law of the market. You've got some teachers, maybe a lawyer and accountant, and that's about it for a professional class. The rest of the graduating generation settles into menial prole lives of quiet desperation, and the void is filled by booze, drugs and Fox News. Like Obama said, they cling to their virtue-signaling guns and misinterpreted bibles, but their towns grow deeper into disrepair(an they blame this on places like Walmart and Amazon, yet continue to gulp from those pools), the kids get dumber with each successive generation(they blame this on the teachers conspiring to teach stuff they know parents can't understand, to groom them into conformance), and they robotically(herp derp, I can't do my own thinking, and if I had a thought about how things don't "feel" right regarding socioeconomic situations, well, hell, I'll just let my elected official worry about that whilst they do mah thinkin' for me) vote for politicians who represent only the landed gentry that lords over them, distracted by reactionary, fascist propaganda fed to them by the very elites they claim to so vehemently despise. If you want to see actual feudalism in action, right here and now, come on back to Otho and take a look for yourself.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 17, 2023 10:55:35 GMT -6
Rural Iowa is already there. You've got the ag wealth increasingly concentrated in the landed gentry (I just sold decent, not spectacular, farm land for 21K/acre) who receive loads of transfer payments as their land skyrockets in value; the barriers to entry are so high that the only youth entering farming are able only via family wealth and connections. The rest of the talented younguns flee the second they graduate as their hometowns become increasingly stifling, reactionary, and completely bereft of economic opportunity. Some try to stick it out or return to create businesses to inject some vitality into these towns, but they inevitably fail despite valiant efforts. Iron law of the market. You've got some teachers, maybe a lawyer and accountant, and that's about it for a professional class. The rest of the graduating generation settles into menial prole lives of quiet desperation, and the void is filled by booze, drugs and Fox News. Like Obama said, they cling to their virtue-signaling guns and misinterpreted bibles, but their towns grow deeper into disrepair, the kids get dumber with each successive generation, and they robotically vote for politicians who represent only the landed gentry that lords over them, distracted by reactionary, fascist propaganda fed to them by the very elites they claim to so vehemently despise. If you want to see actual feudalism in action, right here and now, come on back to Otho and take a look for yourself. No disagreement there. You need massive economies of scale to farm now and virtually everyone intelligent who isn't sitting on an inheritance of at least a couple thousand acres has bolted. The country as a whole is at the point where the only places there is a viable middle class left is in the secondary towns that weren't too tied at the hip with a single manufacturer that left where there is abundant land to sprawl infinitely. Des Moines, Omaha, Kansas City, Birmingham, Greenville, Richmond, Columbus, etc. Even places like Peoria and Champaign are just absolutely fucked. There’s another big problem in the Des Moines metro: the conversion of literally the most fertile, productive land on earth into strip malls and housing developments. As my grandfather used to say every time he justified buying farmland, “they ain’t making any more of it.”
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 17, 2023 11:49:46 GMT -6
No disagreement there. You need massive economies of scale to farm now and virtually everyone intelligent who isn't sitting on an inheritance of at least a couple thousand acres has bolted. The country as a whole is at the point where the only places there is a viable middle class left is in the secondary towns that weren't too tied at the hip with a single manufacturer that left where there is abundant land to sprawl infinitely. Des Moines, Omaha, Kansas City, Birmingham, Greenville, Richmond, Columbus, etc. Even places like Peoria and Champaign are just absolutely fucked. There’s another big problem in the Des Moines metro: the conversion of literally the most fertile, productive land on earth into strip malls and housing developments. As my grandfather used to say every time he justified buying farmland, “they ain’t making any more of it.” I'd pay good money for a truckload of that soil.
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Post by livingintheusa on Apr 17, 2023 14:42:23 GMT -6
Rural Iowa is already there. You've got the ag wealth increasingly concentrated in the landed gentry (I just sold decent, not spectacular, farm land for 21K/acre) who receive loads of transfer payments as their land skyrockets in value; the barriers to entry are so high that the only youth entering farming are able only via family wealth and connections. The rest of the talented younguns flee the second they graduate as their hometowns become increasingly stifling, reactionary, and completely bereft of economic opportunity. Some try to stick it out or return to create businesses to inject some vitality into these towns, but they inevitably fail despite valiant efforts. Iron law of the market. You've got some teachers, maybe a lawyer and accountant, and that's about it for a professional class. The rest of the graduating generation settles into menial prole lives of quiet desperation, and the void is filled by booze, drugs and Fox News. Like Obama said, they cling to their virtue-signaling guns and misinterpreted bibles, but their towns grow deeper into disrepair(an they blame this on places like Walmart and Amazon, yet continue to gulp from those pools), the kids get dumber with each successive generation(they blame this on the teachers conspiring to teach stuff they know parents can't understand, to groom them into conformance), and they robotically(herp derp, I can't do my own thinking, and if I had a thought about how things don't "feel" right regarding socioeconomic situations, well, hell, I'll just let my elected official worry about that whilst they do mah thinkin' for me) vote for politicians who represent only the landed gentry that lords over them, distracted by reactionary, fascist propaganda fed to them by the very elites they claim to so vehemently despise. If you want to see actual feudalism in action, right here and now, come on back to Otho and take a look for yourself. POY
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