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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 11, 2023 13:06:16 GMT -6
The Indiana Fever won the WNBA lotto... so have the rights to get Caitlin if she goes. She's gone. Probably, but I think she can make more $$ on NIL than she would in WNBA. Her best move would be to call Duke or the real USC or some big time basketball program or athletic department with a rich fan base and say "I got one more year and I want to win a title, I will go to your school if you can find $10 mil of NIL money." Her professional value will never be higher than it will be if she goes and tries to shop a final year of college. She'll have to tell Iowa to fuck off, but I ain't gonna hate her. Go get paid. |
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Post by socal on Dec 11, 2023 15:01:08 GMT -6
Probably, but I think she can make more $$ on NIL than she would in WNBA. Her best move would be to call Duke or the real USC or some big time basketball program or athletic department with a rich fan base and say "I got one more year and I want to win a title, I will go to your school if you can find $10 mil of NIL money." Her professional value will never be higher than it will be if she goes and tries to shop a final year of college. She'll have to tell Iowa to fuck off, but I ain't gonna hate her. Go get paid. I disagree. She would displace/upgrade the highest paid WNBA player and play with the #1 pick from last year down low. She will still have sponsorship deals but will be able to have fun playing with a team that compliments her skills. Pretty sure if they just put a big "CC NIL" bucket outside of arenas for the rest of her games this year, they would easily pass the $10 mil mark. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 11, 2023 15:45:14 GMT -6
Her best move would be to call Duke or the real USC or some big time basketball program or athletic department with a rich fan base and say "I got one more year and I want to win a title, I will go to your school if you can find $10 mil of NIL money." Her professional value will never be higher than it will be if she goes and tries to shop a final year of college. She'll have to tell Iowa to fuck off, but I ain't gonna hate her. Go get paid. I disagree. She would displace/upgrade the highest paid WNBA player and play with the #1 pick from last year down low. She will still have sponsorship deals but will be able to have fun playing with a team that compliments her skills. Pretty sure if they just put a big "CC NIL" bucket outside of arenas for the rest of her games this year, they would easily pass the $10 mil mark. Not sure if this is true, but I just looked it up and the "supermax" salary in the WNBA is about $235k. Even the top stars routinely go play overseas, which is how that one lady ended up in Russian prison. The biggest problem in WNBA is that almost all of the teams are in baseball cities and the sport is played opposite baseball in the summer when no one is thinking about hoops. The TV ratings for the NCAA final were insane, I really don't think her exposure and profile will grow in the WNBA. If she can draw almost 10 million viewers for a championship game in college that is very likely going to be her high water mark for exposure on the national scene. The biggest problem with WNBA is that there is virtually no goodwill associated with the teams. The Tigerhawk logo that the U of Iowa owns is worth at a minimum 10x the most valuable WNBA franchise. And that's just our logo. |
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Post by LansingHawk on Dec 11, 2023 18:35:21 GMT -6
Probably, but I think she can make more $$ on NIL than she would in WNBA. Her best move would be to call Duke or the real USC or some big time basketball program or athletic department with a rich fan base and say "I got one more year and I want to win a title, I will go to your school if you can find $10 mil of NIL money." Her professional value will never be higher than it will be if she goes and tries to shop a final year of college. She'll have to tell Iowa to fuck off, but I ain't gonna hate her. Go get paid. I'd agree with this if she wasn't a native Iowa girl. That and Lisa Bluder might be enough to keep her here for less than 10 mil. She will come close to that here. Irregardless she would do better finacially with another year in college vs. WNBA. |
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Post by socal on Dec 11, 2023 18:36:42 GMT -6
I disagree. She would displace/upgrade the highest paid WNBA player and play with the #1 pick from last year down low. She will still have sponsorship deals but will be able to have fun playing with a team that compliments her skills. Pretty sure if they just put a big "CC NIL" bucket outside of arenas for the rest of her games this year, they would easily pass the $10 mil mark. Not sure if this is true, but I just looked it up and the "supermax" salary in the WNBA is about $235k. Even the top stars routinely go play overseas, which is how that one lady ended up in Russian prison. The biggest problem in WNBA is that almost all of the teams are in baseball cities and the sport is played opposite baseball in the summer when no one is thinking about hoops. The TV ratings for the NCAA final were insane, I really don't think her exposure and profile will grow in the WNBA. If she can draw almost 10 million viewers for a championship game in college that is very likely going to be her high water mark for exposure on the national scene. The biggest problem with WNBA is that there is virtually no goodwill associated with the teams. The Tigerhawk logo that the U of Iowa owns is worth at a minimum 10x the most valuable WNBA franchise. And that's just our logo. You are sounding like someone saying the college students should be happy with their tuition/food/board/real life experiences. She will have her endorsements and her salary stipend, similar to how half of Travis Kelce's football salary is only half of his total income. If a true $10 mil offer came forth, she should jump on whichever one offered. There are more millionaires behind WNBA eventual success than there are for a single year of her skills. |
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Post by LansingHawk on Dec 11, 2023 18:40:13 GMT -6
Not sure if this is true, but I just looked it up and the "supermax" salary in the WNBA is about $235k. Even the top stars routinely go play overseas, which is how that one lady ended up in Russian prison. The biggest problem in WNBA is that almost all of the teams are in baseball cities and the sport is played opposite baseball in the summer when no one is thinking about hoops. The TV ratings for the NCAA final were insane, I really don't think her exposure and profile will grow in the WNBA. If she can draw almost 10 million viewers for a championship game in college that is very likely going to be her high water mark for exposure on the national scene. The biggest problem with WNBA is that there is virtually no goodwill associated with the teams. The Tigerhawk logo that the U of Iowa owns is worth at a minimum 10x the most valuable WNBA franchise. And that's just our logo. You are sounding like someone saying the college students should be happy with their tuition/food/board/real life experiences. She will have her endorsements and her salary stipend, similar to how half of Travis Kelce's football salary is only half of his total income. If a true $10 mil offer came forth, she should jump on whichever one offered. There are more millionaires behind WNBA eventual success than there are for a single year of her skills. Then why is Brittany Griebr, maybe the biggest star in the WNBA, having to play in Europe during the off season? |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 12, 2023 7:44:58 GMT -6
Not sure if this is true, but I just looked it up and the "supermax" salary in the WNBA is about $235k. Even the top stars routinely go play overseas, which is how that one lady ended up in Russian prison. The biggest problem in WNBA is that almost all of the teams are in baseball cities and the sport is played opposite baseball in the summer when no one is thinking about hoops. The TV ratings for the NCAA final were insane, I really don't think her exposure and profile will grow in the WNBA. If she can draw almost 10 million viewers for a championship game in college that is very likely going to be her high water mark for exposure on the national scene. The biggest problem with WNBA is that there is virtually no goodwill associated with the teams. The Tigerhawk logo that the U of Iowa owns is worth at a minimum 10x the most valuable WNBA franchise. And that's just our logo. You are sounding like someone saying the college students should be happy with their tuition/food/board/real life experiences. She will have her endorsements and her salary stipend, similar to how half of Travis Kelce's football salary is only half of his total income. If a true $10 mil offer came forth, she should jump on whichever one offered. There are more millionaires behind WNBA eventual success than there are for a single year of her skills. No, I literally said that she needs to find a school that can pay her $10 million for her final year. Maybe that number is too low, maybe she needs to ask for $25 million. I think you vastly overestimate the star power of WNBA players. Her stock will never be higher than when she is playing in college ball. There's only 12 teams in the WNBA and they don't have anywhere near the national reach that NCAA hoops has. Her WNBA pay will be capped at maybe $250k and almost all of her pay will come from endorsements. I think you are misunderstanding how the world currently operates - it is now permissible for college players to sign endorsement deals. For someone in her position, her market power is at its highest when she is the most popular and once she goes to the WNBA she's not gonna be as popular as she is now because no team in the WNBA has any brand equity or goodwill. |
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Post by thunderhawk on Dec 12, 2023 8:48:08 GMT -6
You are sounding like someone saying the college students should be happy with their tuition/food/board/real life experiences. She will have her endorsements and her salary stipend, similar to how half of Travis Kelce's football salary is only half of his total income. If a true $10 mil offer came forth, she should jump on whichever one offered. There are more millionaires behind WNBA eventual success than there are for a single year of her skills. No, I literally said that she needs to find a school that can pay her $10 million for her final year. Maybe that number is too low, maybe she needs to ask for $25 million. I think you vastly overestimate the star power of WNBA players. Her stock will never be higher than when she is playing in college ball. There's only 12 teams in the WNBA and they don't have anywhere near the national reach that NCAA hoops has. Her WNBA pay will be capped at maybe $250k and almost all of her pay will come from endorsements. I think you are misunderstanding how the world currently operates - it is now permissible for college players to sign endorsement deals. For someone in her position, her market power is at its highest when she is the most popular and once she goes to the WNBA she's not gonna be as popular as she is now because no team in the WNBA has any brand equity or goodwill. Lost in this discussion is the actual value that Clark brings to Iowa brand. I can guarantee without even researching it that admissions and donations are up because of her. She is worth untold millions in free advertising for the U, probably to an extent far outpacing any other college athlete. She’s the kind of free advertising that marketing executives would kill their first born for. |
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Post by Ginger on Dec 12, 2023 12:57:56 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 12, 2023 15:00:28 GMT -6
No, I literally said that she needs to find a school that can pay her $10 million for her final year. Maybe that number is too low, maybe she needs to ask for $25 million. I think you vastly overestimate the star power of WNBA players. Her stock will never be higher than when she is playing in college ball. There's only 12 teams in the WNBA and they don't have anywhere near the national reach that NCAA hoops has. Her WNBA pay will be capped at maybe $250k and almost all of her pay will come from endorsements. I think you are misunderstanding how the world currently operates - it is now permissible for college players to sign endorsement deals. For someone in her position, her market power is at its highest when she is the most popular and once she goes to the WNBA she's not gonna be as popular as she is now because no team in the WNBA has any brand equity or goodwill. Lost in this discussion is the actual value that Clark brings to Iowa brand. I can guarantee without even researching it that admissions and donations are up because of her. She is worth untold millions in free advertising for the U, probably to an extent far outpacing any other college athlete. She’s the kind of free advertising that marketing executives would kill their first born for. My colleague went to Davidson and he said that at some event they speculated that Steph Curry is responsible for over 1/3rd of their current applicant pool. Clark ain't got that sort of power, but she prolly helps. For fucks sake, I had no idea this was even a thing but I saw some show on HBOMax called Bama Rush and the Bama pledge process went completely fucking viral in 2021 and their applicant pool skyrocketed because girls in leftist jurisdictions who were locked down felt so fucking isolated that they wanted to move to Alabama to join a god damned sorority to get friends. That fucking documentary was probably the second most troubling modern social trend I have seen in the past two decades behind only the infantilization of animals as surrogates for children as our population collapses. |
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Post by thunderhawk on Dec 12, 2023 18:17:26 GMT -6
Lost in this discussion is the actual value that Clark brings to Iowa brand. I can guarantee without even researching it that admissions and donations are up because of her. She is worth untold millions in free advertising for the U, probably to an extent far outpacing any other college athlete. She’s the kind of free advertising that marketing executives would kill their first born for. My colleague went to Davidson and he said that at some event they speculated that Steph Curry is responsible for over 1/3rd of their current applicant pool. Clark ain't got that sort of power, but she prolly helps. For fucks sake, I had no idea this was even a thing but I saw some show on HBOMax called Bama Rush and the Bama pledge process went completely fucking viral in 2021 and their applicant pool skyrocketed because girls in leftist jurisdictions who were locked down felt so fucking isolated that they wanted to move to Alabama to join a god damned sorority to get friends. That fucking documentary was probably the second most troubling modern social trend I have seen in the past two decades behind only the infantilization of animals as surrogates for children as our population collapses. I don’t fault anyone who refuses to bring children into this shitshow. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 13, 2023 6:58:24 GMT -6
My colleague went to Davidson and he said that at some event they speculated that Steph Curry is responsible for over 1/3rd of their current applicant pool. Clark ain't got that sort of power, but she prolly helps. For fucks sake, I had no idea this was even a thing but I saw some show on HBOMax called Bama Rush and the Bama pledge process went completely fucking viral in 2021 and their applicant pool skyrocketed because girls in leftist jurisdictions who were locked down felt so fucking isolated that they wanted to move to Alabama to join a god damned sorority to get friends. That fucking documentary was probably the second most troubling modern social trend I have seen in the past two decades behind only the infantilization of animals as surrogates for children as our population collapses. I don’t fault anyone who refuses to bring children into this shitshow. The god damned birth rate in Korea has fallen to 0.6 per woman, meaning for every 200-ish adults they have right now, they will have 60 kids. All of Northeast Asia is on path for a monstrous population collapse. It's unreal. But I get it over there, you see some gal navigating a fucking bicycle with a kid on front and a kid on back and groceries hanging off the handlebars and it makes sense if others see that and say "yeah, not for me, dawg." The West is nothing like that, but the birthrate collapse has been pretty fucking similar. |
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Post by socal on Dec 13, 2023 7:00:19 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 13, 2023 7:34:35 GMT -6
I wonder how long the licensing deal took to include that Nike logo in the Gatorade ad. |
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Dec 13, 2023 16:07:20 GMT -6
Clearly she should return to play another year in college as her visibility/marketability is much higher in college than it is in the WNBA which absolutely no one watches. Pards is not wrong in stating that the smart play for her would be to punk Iowa for a higher profile market school. I hope she does not however.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 13, 2023 17:35:50 GMT -6
Clearly she should return to play another year in college as her visibility/marketability is much higher in college than it is in the WNBA which absolutely no one watches. Pards is not wrong in stating that the smart play for her would be to punk Iowa for a higher profile market school. I hope she does not however. Fuck that, I hope she bounces to another team. The fact that she is a generational talent, maybe a person with a legitimate claim of GOAT, and our numbnuts athletic department didn't expend every resource imaginable to get her a ring by buying players in the transfer portal is why she needs to bounce. You can't look at the incompetence exhibited by the Iowa athletic department and say "yeah, sure, I'll hang around here and make you assholes more money." Fuck that, she needs to go elsewhere. There's definitely someone out there who would pay her a fuckton of money. |
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Dec 13, 2023 20:57:26 GMT -6
I dont disagree. I can not figure out how Bluder was unable to bring in any talent via the portal.
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Post by LansingHawk on Dec 13, 2023 21:31:31 GMT -6
I dont disagree. I can not figure out how Bluder was unable to bring in any talent via the portal. All the NIL money going to football? |
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Post by thunderhawk on Dec 13, 2023 21:43:03 GMT -6
Clearly she should return to play another year in college as her visibility/marketability is much higher in college than it is in the WNBA which absolutely no one watches. Pards is not wrong in stating that the smart play for her would be to punk Iowa for a higher profile market school. I hope she does not however. Fuck that, I hope she bounces to another team. The fact that she is a generational talent, maybe a person with a legitimate claim of GOAT, and our numbnuts athletic department didn't expend every resource imaginable to get her a ring by buying players in the transfer portal is why she needs to bounce. You can't look at the incompetence exhibited by the Iowa athletic department and say "yeah, sure, I'll hang around here and make you assholes more money." Fuck that, she needs to go elsewhere. There's definitely someone out there who would pay her a fuckton of money. Yep. Fucking dumbass Bluder et al needed to get her a Pippen and a Rodman and they were fucking out there for the taking…gals from Louisville and Stanford. That team would have gone undefeated. As it stands Clark is Curry at Davidson instead of Jordan at Carolina. Epic malpractice. FFS I recruit better than that and nobody’s paying me. All I can offer is the opportunity to punk the fucking suburban teams. Bluder and the Iowa athletic department are clowns. |
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Post by socal on Dec 14, 2023 5:15:10 GMT -6
Fuck that, I hope she bounces to another team. The fact that she is a generational talent, maybe a person with a legitimate claim of GOAT, and our numbnuts athletic department didn't expend every resource imaginable to get her a ring by buying players in the transfer portal is why she needs to bounce. You can't look at the incompetence exhibited by the Iowa athletic department and say "yeah, sure, I'll hang around here and make you assholes more money." Fuck that, she needs to go elsewhere. There's definitely someone out there who would pay her a fuckton of money. Yep. Fucking dumbass Bluder et al needed to get her a Pippen and a Rodman and they were fucking out there for the taking…gals from Louisville and Stanford. That team would have gone undefeated. As it stands Clark is Curry at Davidson instead of Jordan at Carolina. Epic malpractice. FFS I recruit better than that and nobody’s paying me. All I can offer is the opportunity to punk the fucking suburban teams. Bluder and the Iowa athletic department are clowns. If you, a middle aged white dude, showed up to recruit a HS/College aged girl***... I'm pretty sure the recruit would listen closer to anyone that isn't you. ***-that more likely than not is a lesbian |
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Post by Ginger on Dec 17, 2023 2:10:20 GMT -6
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Post by Ginger on Dec 30, 2023 14:55:40 GMT -6
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Post by Ginger on Jan 2, 2024 22:34:17 GMT -6
Well MSU is pissed.
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Post by Ginger on Jan 2, 2024 22:37:23 GMT -6
Apparently Dawn Staley watched the game and is mad too
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Post by socal on Jan 2, 2024 23:43:40 GMT -6
That was a fun game to watch. She is historic. I may have to drop a few $hundred to say I saw her play live. |
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