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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Aug 26, 2016 10:12:07 GMT -6
Who do you think stands to make more money based on their partnership: CJ Beat Hard or the University of Iowa. The University can sell the rights to watch him play in person and on TV for several millions, can profit off of his name and likeness, and use him to market the university and its properties. CJ can get enough exposure to POSSIBLY get a non-guaranteed professional contract in the 6 figures, and failing that can get a $80,000/year job at a bank in West Des Moines and doesn't have to pay student loans for a decade.
Yep. That's "fair".
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Post by NotMyKid on Aug 26, 2016 10:14:46 GMT -6
Read this article and then realize it spawned a twitter 'discussion' Jon had with Jay Bilas today. Someone is just a little thin-skinned. Go to twitter and see the fun if you have the time. hawkeyenation.com/football/miller-college-athletes-already-fairly-compensatedNone of that is to say that the HN brand is the best, or that there are not other examples of successful brands; there are a number of highly successful brands that you visit each day pursuant to Iowa athletics and HN is one of them and the most intimate example of branding I can share with you.JFC Miller iis an idiot. I used to agree with his point of view, but the money in these "amateur" sports has gotten so out of control in the past 10 years, none of these arguments hold water. No one is arguing that athletes are well compensated, the fucking point is they aren't fairly compensated. Iowa made $105 fucking million dollars of athletic revenue last year. Giving a $40,000 scholarship to the people who make that money is not "fair". I agree that Millar is an idiot and think players should be paid. But I don't see how you do that with Title IX. It's just a fucking non starter. Sure the blue bloods can afford to pay the athletes but aside from the top 20-25 programs it would kill off a lot of women's programs and men's non revenue sports. Everyone loves to say lets pay them but doesn't ever talk about the lower D-I schools that would be fucked, UNI, every school not in a P5 conference hell even a school like ISU would find it difficult to try and balance their athletic budget if they had to start paying all of their student athletes. And what do you pay them? $500? $2500? Is it the same for every school? etc. I am all for paying them if you can find a way to do it but it isn't any where close to as easy as some asshats like to make it out to be.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Aug 26, 2016 10:28:14 GMT -6
JFC Miller iis an idiot. I used to agree with his point of view, but the money in these "amateur" sports has gotten so out of control in the past 10 years, none of these arguments hold water. No one is arguing that athletes are well compensated, the fucking point is they aren't fairly compensated. Iowa made $105 fucking million dollars of athletic revenue last year. Giving a $40,000 scholarship to the people who make that money is not "fair". I agree that Millar is an idiot and think players should be paid. But I don't see how you do that with Title IX. It's just a fucking non starter. Sure the blue bloods can afford to pay the athletes but aside from the top 20-25 programs it would kill off a lot of women's programs and men's non revenue sports. Everyone loves to say lets pay them but doesn't ever talk about the lower D-I schools that would be fucked, UNI, every school not in a P5 conference hell even a school like ISU would find it difficult to try and balance their athletic budget if they had to start paying all of their student athletes. And what do you pay them? $500? $2500? Is it the same for every school? etc. I am all for paying them if you can find a way to do it but it isn't any where close to as easy as some asshats like to make it out to be. It's just a reality that some programs won't be able to pay their students. Big whoop. There is already massive parody in college sports because of massive revenue, it won't be that different. UNI can still offer a free education, while UofI can offer $30 grand a year or some shit. If college sports is going to be big business, then open the fucking market so those with the most talent can earn the most money. And don't even get me started on the racial problems involved in this, where the revenue is made by mostly black athletes, and the money is kept by most while administrators and coaches. You don't need to worry about Title IX shit if you just make the payments relative to the revenue your team makes. Total revenue at the UofI was $61,676,000 in 2005, and in 2015, it was $106,000,000. Somehow, they were able to subsidize the women's rowing team a decade ago...
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Aug 26, 2016 10:28:44 GMT -6
I don't think it was an option when I booked muh free tix w/Delta (not truly free; I paid $11.20 in taxes) You still got fam/high skool bros in teh Grove you gonna hit up?
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Post by egadsto on Aug 26, 2016 10:47:25 GMT -6
JFC Miller iis an idiot. I used to agree with his point of view, but the money in these "amateur" sports has gotten so out of control in the past 10 years, none of these arguments hold water. No one is arguing that athletes are well compensated, the fucking point is they aren't fairly compensated. Iowa made $105 fucking million dollars of athletic revenue last year. Giving a $40,000 scholarship to the people who make that money is not "fair". I agree that Millar is an idiot and think players should be paid. But I don't see how you do that with Title IX. It's just a fucking non starter. Sure the blue bloods can afford to pay the athletes but aside from the top 20-25 programs it would kill off a lot of women's programs and men's non revenue sports. Everyone loves to say lets pay them but doesn't ever talk about the lower D-I schools that would be fucked, UNI, every school not in a P5 conference hell even a school like ISU would find it difficult to try and balance their athletic budget if they had to start paying all of their student athletes. And what do you pay them? $500? $2500? Is it the same for every school? etc. I am all for paying them if you can find a way to do it but it isn't any where close to as easy as some asshats like to make it out to be. Here's some good reading (from a link in Jay Bilas' tweet). In it, the differing economics, lower divisions, and Title IX are discussed among other things. sportsgeekonomics.tumblr.com/mythsSnippet from Title IX section: Title IX actually aims for gender equity in participation and the regulations offer three ways to comply, none of which speak directly to equal funding. One is meeting the needs of all of the under-represented gender, the second is a subjective concept of progress towards equity, and the third and most common is actual equity in participation.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Aug 26, 2016 10:50:31 GMT -6
You still got fam/high skool bros in teh Grove you gonna hit up? I have fam in neighborville. Won't hit up. We're not close. I always stay the Sunday night after an IC game somewhere in the western 'burbs because it keeps "the day after" at an easy pace. A few years back I booked a Sunday afternoon return flight and it was a fucked-up day of rushing out of IC real early to O'Hare through shit traffic, on very little sleep and with a hangover. Nofa king fun. So now I hang out in illannoy for one night and travel back monday, easy peasy You should arrange for a group that provides coach transportation and chartered flights. Makes it soooooo much expensiveeasier
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Aug 26, 2016 10:57:59 GMT -6
You still got fam/high skool bros in teh Grove you gonna hit up? I have fam in neighborville. Won't hit up. We're not close. Color me surprised.
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Post by Earl Slick on Aug 26, 2016 11:21:50 GMT -6
You should arrange for a group that provides coach transportation and chartered flights. Makes it soooooo much expensiveeasier why didn't I think of that! D'oh!! There's a reason why you don't have a highly successful brand yet are selling propane and propane accessories in the land of Oral Robbers.
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Post by NotMyKid on Aug 26, 2016 11:26:55 GMT -6
I agree that Millar is an idiot and think players should be paid. But I don't see how you do that with Title IX. It's just a fucking non starter. Sure the blue bloods can afford to pay the athletes but aside from the top 20-25 programs it would kill off a lot of women's programs and men's non revenue sports. Everyone loves to say lets pay them but doesn't ever talk about the lower D-I schools that would be fucked, UNI, every school not in a P5 conference hell even a school like ISU would find it difficult to try and balance their athletic budget if they had to start paying all of their student athletes. And what do you pay them? $500? $2500? Is it the same for every school? etc. I am all for paying them if you can find a way to do it but it isn't any where close to as easy as some asshats like to make it out to be. Here's some good reading (from a link in Jay Bilas' tweet). In it, the differing economics, lower divisions, and Title IX are discussed among other things. sportsgeekonomics.tumblr.com/mythsSnippet from Title IX section: Title IX actually aims for gender equity in participation and the regulations offer three ways to comply, none of which speak directly to equal funding. One is meeting the needs of all of the under-represented gender, the second is a subjective concept of progress towards equity, and the third and most common is actual equity in participation. Title IX states that: No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance. I haven't read the link yet but right in the fucking law it says be denied the benefits of, I ain't no lawyer but find it hard to believe some women's lib attorney wouldn't jump at the fucking chance to argue that one in court. As I said it all sounds good on paper but not as easy when you get down to the details.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 22:27:12 GMT -6
See, if players got paid they could just buy hookers and blow and not end up knocking up fellow affaletes or girls from back home. Then no off-the-field -court distractions. Wegher. White. I could go on if I remembered other out-of-wedlock names... hawkeyenation.com/forum/threads/cj-gonna-be-a-papa.75546/
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Aug 28, 2016 22:33:59 GMT -6
See, if players got paid they could just buy hookers and blow and not end up knocking up fellow affaletes or girls from back home. Then no off-the-field -court distractions. Wegher. White. I could go on if I remembered other out-of-wedlock names... hawkeyenation.com/forum/threads/cj-gonna-be-a-papa.75546/I wish you weren't retarded.
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Post by TaterWanger on Aug 29, 2016 6:33:05 GMT -6
Thats the best thread from that site in years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 7:52:54 GMT -6
See, if players got paid they could just buy hookers and blow and not end up knocking up fellow affaletes or girls from back home. Then no off-the-field -court distractions. Wegher. White. I could go on if I remembered other out-of-wedlock names... hawkeyenation.com/forum/threads/cj-gonna-be-a-papa.75546/I wish you weren't retarded. Who's yo daddy?
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Post by Ginger on Aug 29, 2016 7:54:39 GMT -6
Thats the best thread from that site in years. That "was"...thread gone
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 7:55:54 GMT -6
Thats the best thread from that site in years. Hmmm. That thread seems to have vanished faster than Mr. Huma Abedin's Twitter account.
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Post by Ginger on Aug 29, 2016 9:08:53 GMT -6
wut wuz it about? is miliar trying to sell unlicensed Hokk merchandise again? he's such a good, moral, law-abiding xtian I never saw it.
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Post by TaterWanger on Aug 29, 2016 9:11:29 GMT -6
Someone started a congratz to cj on being a daddy fread, and a couple of people went off saying its nothing to congratulate about. They went on about all the problems wif kids born out of wedlock and socoety and immorality shit and about distractions to the fooseball team.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Aug 29, 2016 9:41:57 GMT -6
Someone started a congratz to cj on being a daddy fread, and a couple of people went off saying its nothing to congratulate about. They went on about all the problems wif kids born out of wedlock and socoety and immorality shit and about distractions to the fooseball team. so it was just another retarded tavernhokk derpfest on hn? I'm feeling oddly non-disappointed that I didn't get to read it. It was eerily similar to when you do a predictions thread and I tell you congrats on your picks.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Aug 29, 2016 13:35:08 GMT -6
Someone started a congratz to cj on being a daddy fread, and a couple of people went off saying its nothing to congratulate about. They went on about all the problems wif kids born out of wedlock and socoety and immorality shit and about distractions to the fooseball team. CJ is a Trump-votin', conservative southern boy. It's ok for him to have premarital sects.
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Post by The Resistance on Sept 2, 2016 14:23:30 GMT -6
Looks like somebody looking for some hawt takes on propane. . Doesn't appear cheapo can afford the monthly fee.
In reply to Joe Bastardi Jon Miller @hawkeyenation 1h1 hour ago @bigjoebastardi Hey Joe, did you ever put forth your winter forecast for Premium Subscribers? Thanks
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Post by The Resistance on Sept 2, 2016 14:37:51 GMT -6
LOL "put forth" What a grifting fucktard You think his frigid ground hog is going to see her shadow.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 21:13:00 GMT -6
Hey, where/when is Waistland meet-up? May need to come back to see parental units soon. Might be able to coordinate travel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 12:03:38 GMT -6
HOT SPURTS TAEK!!!! Week one of Big Ten football is in the books. Here is how we rank the teams based on what we have seen, otherwise known as the ‘Overreaction to the Now’ rankings.
JON MILLER’S RANKINGS
1. Michigan: Big number in the Big House vs Hawaii
2. Ohio State: JT Barrett and the OSU offense set school records this week
3. Wisconsin: Nobody who was not a Badger fan saw this coming
4. Iowa: Rusty, but rushing offense, the key for this team, was on point
5. Michigan State: Not overly impressive against the Furman Paladins
6. Nebraska: I was impressed with how they dominated Fresno State
7. Minnesota: Very rusty against Oregon State
8. Penn State: 20-point win over Penn State wasn’t clean
9. Indiana: Dominant win on the road at Florida International
10. Illinois: Rolled up Murray State; allowed -10 yards rushing
11. Maryland: 52-13 win over Howard
12. Northwestern: They are better than this. But that’s a tough way to start the year
13. Purdue
14. Rutgers: Got their doors blown off at WashingtonNeither was your editing, pusillanimous propane peddler.
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Post by Incogayno. on Sept 8, 2016 16:56:37 GMT -6
Hot hot take! Will Jan finally figure out that climate change is real and that he's in the wrong business?
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Sept 13, 2016 14:47:32 GMT -6
Sum1 mad.
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