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Post by A boy named Sioux on May 1, 2014 12:10:36 GMT -6
I have worked in many different plants some union some not. I have direct front line experience that you do not. Give me a nonunion work force every time. I can promote people who work hard and do a good job and shitcan those who do not. I didn't have that option in my union plants.
As for your weekend witticism, i agree that unions once saved people from intolerable working conditions. However, the pendulum has swung far to far in the other direction. By and large, American industry is no longer run by robber barons. They are still greedy nearly useless fucks, but they are no longer evil incarnate.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on May 1, 2014 12:44:22 GMT -6
I have worked in many different plants some union some not. I have direct front line experience that you do not. Give me a nonunion work force every time. I can promote people who work hard and do a good job and shitcan those who do not. I didn't have that option in my union plants. Stop talking about fucking unions, because unions have nothing to do with this shit.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 1, 2014 12:48:00 GMT -6
I have worked in many different plants some union some not. I have direct front line experience that you do not. Give me a nonunion work force every time. I can promote people who work hard and do a good job and shitcan those who do not. I didn't have that option in my union plants. As for your weekend witticism, i agree that unions once saved people from intolerable working conditions. However, the pendulum has swung far to far in the other direction. By and large, American industry is no longer run by robber barons. They are still greedy nearly useless fucks, but they are no longer evil incarnate. Workers in this country are afforded less protection than workers in any other industrialized first world nation. Sure, some countries like France have labor laws that truly do hamstring business, but here, that's just not the case. Labor law here barely acquires "humane" status. Many of these corporate chieftains do want to be robber barons; it's inherent to their nature. They are just minimally legally restrained by law from it. Many of them would go full metal China on workers if they could. That they cant is mostly due to union-driven legislation. I'm not sticking up for the seniority bullshit or other pain in the ass crap you have to deal with. I'm sticking up for the concept of some modicum of equilibrium vis a vis labor versus capital. I'd rather this equilibrium just be legally codified and unions be rendered unnecessary; however, that's a pipe dream, and thus organized labor is essential. I wish it wasn't, but we live in a world of alternatives.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on May 1, 2014 12:57:29 GMT -6
I have worked in many different plants some union some not. I have direct front line experience that you do not. Give me a nonunion work force every time. I can promote people who work hard and do a good job and shitcan those who do not. I didn't have that option in my union plants. Stop talking about fucking unions, because unions have nothing to do with this shit. Billy, please be quite while the adults are talking. dunder wanted to dismiss the objection of the NEA saying they were agin anything that touched on individual accountability. I pointed out his hypocrisy informing him this was the central point of modern organized labor. He replied saying nuh uh. I indicated i had direct experience proving my point and he indicated that in theory, it should not be like that. See how it is relevant now?
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Post by Incogayno. on May 1, 2014 13:00:00 GMT -6
Stop talking about fucking unions, because unions have nothing to do with this shit. Billy, please be quit while the adults are talking. dunder wanted to dismiss the objection of the NEA saying they were agin anything that touched on individual accountability. I pointed out his hypocrisy informing him this was the central point of modern organized labor. He replied saying nuh uh. I indicated i had direct experience proving my point and he indicated that in theory, it should not be like that. See how it is relevant now? You are not going to win.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 1, 2014 13:06:54 GMT -6
Stop talking about fucking unions, because unions have nothing to do with this shit. Billy, please be quit while the adults are talking. dunder wanted to dismiss the objection of the NEA saying they were agin anything that touched on individual accountability. I pointed out his hypocrisy informing him this was the central point of modern organized labor. He replied saying nuh uh. I indicated i had direct experience proving my point and he indicated that in theory, it should not be like that. See how it is relevant now? Not exactly. My point about the NEA is that they exist to protect the interests of teachers, even and perhaps especially subpar shitty ones; their primary raison d'etre is not the promotion of the education and welfare of children, for which I believe their union should be held more accountable. Abrogation of individual accountability is an effect, not the intent. There's a whole hell of a lot wrong with unions. They are unfortunately a necessary evil in a capitalist system. Sorry. That's the world we live in.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on May 1, 2014 13:08:13 GMT -6
No Dupont heirs in the management of the company.
The idle rich as i said above are useless.
Just because your great grandfather made a fortune should not mean that you are above the law.
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Post by Other on May 1, 2014 13:31:11 GMT -6
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Post by The Resistance on May 1, 2014 13:33:01 GMT -6
Billy, please be quit while the adults are talking. dunder wanted to dismiss the objection of the NEA saying they were agin anything that touched on individual accountability. I pointed out his hypocrisy informing him this was the central point of modern organized labor. He replied saying nuh uh. I indicated i had direct experience proving my point and he indicated that in theory, it should not be like that. See how it is relevant now? Not exactly. My point about the NEA is that they exist to protect the interests of teachers, even and perhaps especially subpar shitty ones; their primary raison d'etre is not the promotion of the education and welfare of children, for which I believe their union should be held more accountable. Abrogation of individual accountability is an effect, not the intent. There's a whole hell of a lot wrong with unions. They are unfortunately a necessary evil in a capitalist system. Sorry. That's the world we live in. Well I wouldn't mind if you went full Thunder on the postal union. Those lazy turds are beyond comprehension.
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Post by TaterWanger on May 1, 2014 13:36:59 GMT -6
See what happens when you institute common core? A niggah can't even borrow a pencil!
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Post by Incogayno. on May 1, 2014 13:46:39 GMT -6
See what happens when you institute common core? A niggah can't even borrow a pencil! LMAO They actually put that on TV? That cant be real.
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Post by TaterWanger on May 1, 2014 14:01:14 GMT -6
Translation: I look like an idiot in this fread, HEY EREBODY LOOK OVER DERE!
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Post by A boy named Sioux on May 1, 2014 14:46:29 GMT -6
yeah, that's just exactly what happened You know what else? Holder shot reagan, while wearing a john hinckley costume. He was obsessed with Jody Foster. Amiright?
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on May 1, 2014 14:46:54 GMT -6
Still no mention of the assraping I gave you about the fucking idiocy of your retarded stance about Common Core? I fucking took you to town and made you look like a retard, and literally the only thing you can do is change the subject to fucking Benghazi, like some kind of retard?
Fuck you you fucking retard. I am sick of retarded proles liek you trying to enter a discussion about a serious issue when you have nothing but retarded bullshit to talk about. You were literally 100% wrong on every aspect of this issue, yet you still come around and try to toss moar shit on the wall on other subjects to distract for the asskicking I gave your retarded face?
Fuck you. I remember how big of a retarded dipshit you are, and I am going to make sure it sinks into your thick, retard skull so you remember and everyone else remembers. So fuck you, fuck your Benghazi bullshit, and go to fucking hell. Adults are talking retard. Take your retarded Glenn Beck bullshit somewhere where retards are welcome.
For the record, I used some variation of retarded 12 times...
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Post by A boy named Sioux on May 1, 2014 14:53:49 GMT -6
Some guys like a challenge
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Post by TaterWanger on May 1, 2014 15:07:16 GMT -6
BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in your mind, does posting that youtube offset your vociferous and enthusiastic support for cliven bundy? ERMAFUCKINGGAARDDDDDD!!!!! Hot MSNBC info babe Alex Wagner just now realizes there just may be something to this Ben Gazzi thing!!!!! Just wait until Fartbongo loses Chris "Three Fingers" Matthews; his ass will be grass! Soooooooooooo desperate.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on May 1, 2014 15:47:21 GMT -6
Still no mention of the assraping I gave you about the fucking idiocy of your retarded stance about Common Core? I fucking took you to town and made you look like a retard, and literally the only thing you can do is change the subject to fucking Benghazi, like some kind of retard? Fuck you you fucking retard. I am sick of retarded proles liek you trying to enter a discussion about a serious issue when you have nothing but retarded bullshit to talk about. You were literally 100% wrong on every aspect of this issue, yet you still come around and try to toss moar shit on the wall on other subjects to distract for the asskicking I gave your retarded face? Fuck you. I remember how big of a retarded dipshit you are, and I am going to make sure it sinks into your thick, retard skull so you remember and everyone else remembers. So fuck you, fuck your Benghazi bullshit, and go to fucking hell. Adults are talking retard. Take your retarded Glenn Beck bullshit somewhere where retards are welcome.
For the record, I used some variation of retarded 12 times...Oh, now he mad. Two for two today. Maybe Dunder will chime in and I can go three for three. That'd be awesome. If only Dev "Ronnie Harmon" Marble had been as reliable on his free throws we coulda made the Final Four. Being stupid isn't trolling. I'm not mad at what you said, I'm mad that you're retarded and proud of it.
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Post by TaterWanger on May 1, 2014 16:17:43 GMT -6
ok, that's not bad but she's in your home state, fella. stop trying to make this some sort of national issue. Own it. Whoever the dumb fucks are that chose to live in B Helleville, New Jerky should probably not vote for her. Know what I mean? Just like those of us with brains chose to not vote for ignorant racist slob sara palin. Or the witch from wherever the fuck, you remember that proud (R)? If you swallow Glen Rice's KOK, are you still a racist? Thats one of the three acceptable uses of black people. 1) Rich white girl goes slumming 2) Nanny 3) Token staff position
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Post by Stan's Field on May 1, 2014 16:43:04 GMT -6
I never dreamed this thread would/could end up one giant chicken fucking fest.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on May 1, 2014 16:55:58 GMT -6
I never dreamed this thread would/could end up one giant chicken fucking fest.
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Post by Incogayno. on May 1, 2014 18:49:29 GMT -6
Still no mention of the assraping I gave you about the fucking idiocy of your retarded stance about Common Core? I fucking took you to town and made you look like a retard, and literally the only thing you can do is change the subject to fucking Benghazi, like some kind of retard? Fuck you you fucking retard. I am sick of retarded proles liek you trying to enter a discussion about a serious issue when you have nothing but retarded bullshit to talk about. You were literally 100% wrong on every aspect of this issue, yet you still come around and try to toss moar shit on the wall on other subjects to distract for the asskicking I gave your retarded face? Fuck you. I remember how big of a retarded dipshit you are, and I am going to make sure it sinks into your thick, retard skull so you remember and everyone else remembers. So fuck you, fuck your Benghazi bullshit, and go to fucking hell. Adults are talking retard. Take your retarded Glenn Beck bullshit somewhere where retards are welcome.
For the record, I used some variation of retarded 12 times...Turn the calendar back 30 days and vanish like a ghost from this place. In fact, why don't you show the poast above to your wief? Luzar. Now who is mad? LOLOLOLOL
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on May 1, 2014 19:27:11 GMT -6
Me too...
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Post by thunderhawk on May 1, 2014 20:10:42 GMT -6
Geez us brah. Stay down on the mat.
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Post by Ginger on May 1, 2014 22:22:57 GMT -6
Can someone explain what's happening?
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Post by Stan's Field on May 2, 2014 5:08:51 GMT -6
Can someone explain what's happening? Easy toots. Don't act liek a reetrarded prole or ghost will fuck up your face and Thunder will kill you.
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