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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Aug 16, 2021 11:28:53 GMT -6
It's funny how they think that people are incapable of seeing what they've been saying until they can turn it into an attack on the Democrats for continuing shit they started.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 11:37:51 GMT -6
It's funny how they think that people are incapable of seeing what they've been saying until they can turn it into an attack on the Democrats for continuing shit they started. Well the Liberal Media(TM) is more than happy to give them a giant assist, and until the Democrats figure that shit out and firehose the truth on their own, they're fucked. Democrats, had they any fight in them, would preface every comment about this shitshow with the tweet I posted upthread: Trump literally sold us and Afghanistan out to those motherfuckers
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 11:41:10 GMT -6
Your daily reminder that the Squad are also a bunch of worthless fucking idiots.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 11:44:31 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Aug 16, 2021 12:03:33 GMT -6
Forgive my ignorance on this because it was a long time ago and I was living in Japan at the time, but my recollection of when The Party of Big Government manufactured the consent for the Afghanistan operation, it was under the pretense of "getting bin Laden and Qaeda" was it not? I seem to recall a big in-group/out-group psyop being used to quell dissent as well, calling into question the "patriotism" of any dissidents in the wake of 9/11, which was turned up to 11 when they decided to roll on Iraq. Is that what happened or is my memory fading? I just signed thunder up as an ambassador for refugees on the Catholic Charities and the Lutheran Relief websites. Hopefully Neck Moines can get some cultural enrichment out of this.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Aug 16, 2021 12:56:41 GMT -6
It's funny how they think that people are incapable of seeing what they've been saying until they can turn it into an attack on the Democrats for continuing shit they started. Well the Liberal Media(TM) is more than happy to give them a giant assist, and until the Democrats figure that shit out and firehose the truth on their own, they're fucked. Democrats, had they any fight in them, would preface every comment about this shitshow with the tweet I posted upthread: Trump literally sold us and Afghanistan out to those motherfuckers The media just sucks balls to be fair because they need "outrage" and topics that may be false to help drive ad revenue as that is their primary goal. Not getting the facts out there and potentially alienating mouth breathing GQP cult members. Fuck them The media needs to let loose and air all this shit even if it may seem like piling on to a shit party and appearing that they aren't bipartisan. Fuck that shit. Let the GQP embrace that shit. Call out those "Both sides" and liars who they invite on air when they twist the truth to make it a slam against the other side. Fox News as a whole tends to amplify GQP talking points and are in lock step with the party outside of a couple of journalists who take their shit seriously. Blast those lying fucks live on air. They don't know how to respond when they are questioned and called out for a lie. Especially when you know what the talking point will be and show documents/evidence against their lies. Chuck Todd needs to be fired into the moon because he only enables the GQP and Trumpism.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 13:00:36 GMT -6
Forgive my ignorance on this because it was a long time ago and I was living in Japan at the time, but my recollection of when The Party of Big Government manufactured the consent for the Afghanistan operation, it was under the pretense of "getting bin Laden and Qaeda" was it not? I seem to recall a big in-group/out-group psyop being used to quell dissent as well, calling into question the "patriotism" of any dissidents in the wake of 9/11, which was turned up to 11 when they decided to roll on Iraq. Is that what happened or is my memory fading? I just signed thunder up as an ambassador for refugees on the Catholic Charities and the Lutheran Relief websites. Hopefully Neck Moines can get some cultural enrichment out of this. Well I had a great Muslim doctor a few years back who had escaped Pakistan, unfortunately she moved to Chicago. She's the one who discovered my heart condition. I'd gladly help Afghan women resettle here. They deserve a better life. Irregardless, it probably ought to be noted for those mourning the loss of "democracy" in Afghanistan that said "nation" is really nothing more than a warlord-run fundamentalist narco-state. If we want to do something productive, we should evacuate every woman from that shithole and then spend a couple of nukes on it. In the interests of national security(TM) of course.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 13:12:28 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Aug 16, 2021 13:31:05 GMT -6
Yes, but where is Orange Man wrong? They've pissed like $2 trillion down a drain on that place. 20 years. You gotta cut bait at some point and the whole "ermagawd we can't possibly leave Afghanistan" bullshit that has just developed out of nowhere the past few days is nothing but tripe designed to keep pissing money down that drain. I mean, you get it. You know that Afghanistan is ungovernable. What the fuck is the end game? I fully support Biden getting the fuck out of there and I'll bet over 80% of Americans do as well.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 13:39:10 GMT -6
Yes, but where is Orange Man wrong? They've pissed like $2 trillion down a drain on that place. 20 years. You gotta cut bait at some point and the whole "ermagawd we can't possibly leave Afghanistan" bullshit that has just developed out of nowhere the past few days is nothing but tripe designed to keep pissing money down that drain. I mean, you get it. You know that Afghanistan is ungovernable. What the fuck is the end game? I fully support Biden getting the fuck out of there and I'll bet over 80% of Americans do as well. I think that negotiating with the Taliban while cutting out the *ALLEGED* Afghan government was just a terrible mistake. Who negotiates a deal in the absence of one of the interested parties? That just transmits to everyone that you're not in fact an interested party. Maybe it wouldn't have changed anything in the end but it certainly sealed the fate of the Afghan "government" and it's "security forces." Anyway I think the larger point here is the brazen political opportunism and rank hypocrisy. It's like the GOP thinks we're all too stupid to remember (or dig up) shit that happened a matter of months ago. I'm not going to argue that both parties didn't fuck the Afghani goat on this one but this revisionist shit can't stand.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Aug 16, 2021 13:39:49 GMT -6
Raytheon is sporting a massive boner with hopes that we have to go whole hog back into Afghanistan. Gotta get that military money somehow. We should have left as soon as we knew Bin Laden was no longer in that country. If he would have gone back, guess what, so do we.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 13:41:44 GMT -6
Same shit different hemisphere (the Taliban fucks are way better at it tho)
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Post by NOTTHOR on Aug 16, 2021 14:01:23 GMT -6
It's like the GOP thinks we're all too stupid to remember (or dig up) shit that happened a matter of months ago. I'm not going to argue that both parties didn't fuck the Afghani goat on this one but this revisionist shit can't stand. A political party gaslighting the American populace? Say it ain't so!
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Post by egadsto on Aug 16, 2021 15:19:21 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 16, 2021 15:38:19 GMT -6
It's like the GOP thinks we're all too stupid to remember (or dig up) shit that happened a matter of months ago. I'm not going to argue that both parties didn't fuck the Afghani goat on this one but this revisionist shit can't stand. A political party gaslighting the American populace? Say it ain't so! It’s a trillion dollar industry
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Post by livingintheusa on Aug 16, 2021 16:12:20 GMT -6
A political party gaslighting the American populace? Say it ain't so! It’s a trillion dollar industry Was
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Aug 17, 2021 10:15:14 GMT -6
I dont think many would be upset with the withdrawl of our troops from Afghanistan, it is the shit show caused by lack of proper planning that has everyone, rightly pissed off at creepy uncle Joe. Who could have foreseen how quickly things would turn? Anyone who was remotely interested in the matter.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Aug 17, 2021 10:25:54 GMT -6
I dont think many would be upset with the withdrawl of our troops from Afghanistan, it is the shit show caused by lack of proper planning that has everyone, rightly pissed of a creepy uncle Joe. Who could have foreseen how quickly things would turn? Anyone who was remotely interested in the matter. Meh, I ain't pissed at Joe. It doesn't matter when you go to leave, it's going to be an utter shitshow no matter when it happens. This "ermagawd we gotta go back" is the military industrial complex trying to keep the gravy train with biscuit wheels moving. It ain't Quid Pro Joe's fault.
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Post by Other on Aug 17, 2021 10:28:01 GMT -6
I dont think many would be upset with the withdrawl of our troops from Afghanistan, it is the shit show caused by lack of proper planning that has everyone, rightly pissed of a creepy uncle Joe. Who could have foreseen how quickly things would turn? Anyone who was remotely interested in the matter. If only we could have gotten our military involved in the withdrawal planning. I will never understand why Biden decided to draw up this shit show completely by himself and then just hand that plan over to the generals. Unbelievable.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Aug 17, 2021 12:39:19 GMT -6
Ah, I see, when drumpf was in the oval office, he alone planned all details of all actions taken by the government including the military, but Uncle Joe just rubber stamps the work of his generals. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by LansingHawk on Aug 17, 2021 12:42:20 GMT -6
Ah, I see, when drumpf was in the oval office, he alone planned all details of all actions taken by the government including the military, but Uncle Joe just rubber stamps the work of his generals. Thanks for clearing that up. Well Drumpf did say he knew more than the generals.
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Post by socal on Aug 17, 2021 13:08:14 GMT -6
Ah, I see, when drumpf was in the oval office, he alone planned all details of all actions taken by the government including the military, but Uncle Joe just rubber stamps the work of his generals. Thanks for clearing that up. Well Drumpf did say he knew more than the generals. That is kinda obvious. After 20 years of Generals figuring shit out & building entire cities of infrastructure/armies etc. The sole fact Dipshit wasn't still in office (at least in a non-shadowy way)- was the only reason for the failure. I'm still putting $5 down on the Taliban may have learned their lesson and will do crappy things, but will do less severe crappy things and play within the normal governmental rules. ...until they themselves become corrupt and sell out. Remember - the Afghanistan of 2000 & that of 2021 are vastly different in the shittiness of the country. With the $$$ we blew there on infrastructure and the fact it is a whole new generation, things will not be the same as before. They will find the benefits of playing nicely.
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Post by Other on Aug 17, 2021 13:49:50 GMT -6
Ah, I see, when drumpf was in the oval office, he alone planned all details of all actions taken by the government including the military, but Uncle Joe just rubber stamps the work of his generals. Thanks for clearing that up. Show me where I said any such thing. You're just making shit up because you said something dumb and I called you out on it.
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Post by socal on Aug 17, 2021 16:08:13 GMT -6
Ah, I see, when drumpf was in the oval office, he alone planned all details of all actions taken by the government including the military, but Uncle Joe just rubber stamps the work of his generals. Thanks for clearing that up. Show me where I said any such thing. You're just making shit up because you said something dumb and I called you out on it. I think he was being facetious.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Aug 17, 2021 16:47:38 GMT -6
Ah, I see, when drumpf was in the oval office, he alone planned all details of all actions taken by the government including the military, but Uncle Joe just rubber stamps the work of his generals. Thanks for clearing that up. Show me where I said any such thing. You're just making shit up because you said something dumb and I called you out on it. Spare me your righteous indignation. That shit does not fly here in the wasteland. What I was pointing out was the colossal double standard you were falling into. If Drumpf was in charge during what I anticipate as being a killing fields level event in Afghanistan, 52% of the electorate would want him tried for war crimes, but Joe wasn't really responsible since he didn't do the detailed planning. Oh please.
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