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Post by BlckKnghtHwk on Jun 18, 2008 9:29:08 GMT -6
Okay so that might be a paraphrase but today in the Rose Garden the president delivered a speech urging Congress to lift its ban on offshort drilling and further explore the many other energy options that exist within our country. It's empty rhetoric equivalent to the 'I'll touch if you touch it' argument that BTRs buddies use to con him into getting herpes but it's a step in the right direction. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080618/ap_on_bi_ge/offshore_oil
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 18, 2008 11:05:34 GMT -6
Flip. Flop.
McTaint can kiss Florida adios.
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Post by BlckKnghtHwk on Jun 18, 2008 14:49:48 GMT -6
In other news, Obama will force the price of gas to upwards of $6 a gallon within his first year in office by passing the Windfall Profits tax and by refusing to do anything significant to reduce the price of gas in the short term. But hey, so long as the polar bears survive!
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Post by BlckKnghtHwk on Jun 18, 2008 14:52:23 GMT -6
We must preserve the ANWR so that it remains beautiful and natural! The only problem with that logic is that with gas prices where they are at nobody can even afford to fucking travel there to admire it's 'natural beauty'. Which begs the question...if nobody can see it, is it really beautiful in the first place? I know my buddies have used similar logic to justify bagging some narses and butter-faces.
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Post by twinegarden on Jun 18, 2008 14:54:45 GMT -6
What is a narse? I am not familiar with that term.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 18, 2008 15:01:07 GMT -6
In other news, Obama will force the price of gas to upwards of $6 a gallon within his first year in office by passing the Windfall Profits tax and by refusing to do anything significant to reduce the price of gas in the short term. But hey, so long as the polar bears survive! Though the windfall profits tax is a very bad idea, I am very confident that, notwithstanding liberals' and mouthbreathers' attempts to pin the spike of oil on Dubya, the recent spike is in almost no way related to any recent policy decision of either the Democratic Congress or the Republican President. It comes from the Fed devaluing our currency and to some extent, speculators. When Goldman calls for $200 a barrel oil, it makes me think they are holding the long position on enough oil futures to cover 2 years worth of oil production and they are just looking for idiots to play their little pump and dump game so some schmuck gets stuck holding the bag when the bubble bursts and Goldman can beat the Street by 2 cents and everyone lives to work another day. The weak dollar and the I-banks looking to enhance profits from commodities trading in the wake of getting crushed by RMBS are probably the two biggest factors driving prices right now. Neither ANWR drilling nor windfall profits taxes will solve the problem, either in the short term or the long term, but as long as we sheeple have party line talking points to argue about and we aren't looking at the money center banks who run the Fed as the problem, all is well in la-la land.
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Post by twinegarden on Jun 18, 2008 15:11:01 GMT -6
In other news, Obama will force the price of gas to upwards of $6 a gallon within his first year in office by passing the Windfall Profits tax and by refusing to do anything significant to reduce the price of gas in the short term. But hey, so long as the polar bears survive! Though the windfall profits tax is a very bad idea, I am very confident that, notwithstanding liberals' and mouthbreathers' attempts to pin the spike of oil on Dubya, the recent spike is in almost no way related to any recent policy decision of either the Democratic Congress or the Republican President. It comes from the Fed devaluing our currency and to some extent, speculators. When Goldman calls for $200 a barrel oil, it makes me think they are holding the long position on enough oil futures to cover 2 years worth of oil production and they are just looking for idiots to play their little pump and dump game so some schmuck gets stuck holding the bag when the bubble bursts and Goldman can beat the Street by 2 cents and everyone lives to work another day. The weak dollar and the I-banks looking to enhance profits from commodities trading in the wake of getting crushed by RMBS are probably the two biggest factors driving prices right now. Neither ANWR drilling nor windfall profits taxes will solve the problem, either in the short term or the long term, but as long as we sheeple have party line talking points to argue about and we aren't looking at the money center banks who run the Fed as the problem, all is well in la-la land. I think you hit the nail on the head with that post, BTR.
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Post by socal on Jun 18, 2008 15:18:43 GMT -6
Though the windfall profits tax is a very bad idea, I am very confident that, notwithstanding liberals' and mouthbreathers' attempts to pin the spike of oil on Dubya, the recent spike is in almost no way related to any recent policy decision of either the Democratic Congress or the Republican President. It comes from the Fed devaluing our currency and to some extent, speculators. When Goldman calls for $200 a barrel oil, it makes me think they are holding the long position on enough oil futures to cover 2 years worth of oil production and they are just looking for idiots to play their little pump and dump game so some schmuck gets stuck holding the bag when the bubble bursts and Goldman can beat the Street by 2 cents and everyone lives to work another day. The weak dollar and the I-banks looking to enhance profits from commodities trading in the wake of getting crushed by RMBS are probably the two biggest factors driving prices right now. Neither ANWR drilling nor windfall profits taxes will solve the problem, either in the short term or the long term, but as long as we sheeple have party line talking points to argue about and we aren't looking at the money center banks who run the Fed as the problem, all is well in la-la land. I think you hit the nail on the head with that post, BTR. Yeah... good job Spike!!!
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Post by Norm "racerhawk" Parker on Jun 18, 2008 15:21:54 GMT -6
In other news, Obama will force the price of gas to upwards of $6 a gallon within his first year in office by passing the Windfall Profits tax and by refusing to do anything significant to reduce the price of gas in the short term. But hey, so long as the polar bears survive! Though the windfall profits tax is a very bad idea, I am very confident that, notwithstanding liberals' and mouthbreathers' attempts to pin the spike of oil on Dubya, the recent spike is in almost no way related to any recent policy decision of either the Democratic Congress or the Republican President. It comes from the Fed devaluing our currency and to some extent, speculators. When Goldman calls for $200 a barrel oil, it makes me think they are holding the long position on enough oil futures to cover 2 years worth of oil production and they are just looking for idiots to play their little pump and dump game so some schmuck gets stuck holding the bag when the bubble bursts and Goldman can beat the Street by 2 cents and everyone lives to work another day. The weak dollar and the I-banks looking to enhance profits from commodities trading in the wake of getting crushed by RMBS are probably the two biggest factors driving prices right now. Neither ANWR drilling nor windfall profits taxes will solve the problem, either in the short term or the long term, but as long as we sheeple have party line talking points to argue about and we aren't looking at the money center banks who run the Fed as the problem, all is well in la-la land. Makes sense, but don't you think worldwide demand fits in there somewhere, too, Spike?
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 18, 2008 16:00:00 GMT -6
Makes sense, but don't you think worldwide demand fits in there somewhere, too, Spike? Oil has doubled in the past year in dollars. Do you think demand just suddenly shot up that quickly, just out of the blue? Look at the spike in dollars. That's your statist pig sheeple friends who did that, and this thing is a month old, so it's off by $20.
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Post by Norm "racerhawk" Parker on Jun 19, 2008 6:23:27 GMT -6
Makes sense, but don't you think worldwide demand fits in there somewhere, too, Spike? Oil has doubled in the past year in dollars. Do you think demand just suddenly shot up that quickly, just out of the blue? Look at the spike in dollars. That's your statist pig sheeple friends who did that, and this thing is a month old, so it's off by $20. Thanks for the info. I was asking a serious question, though. Does all of it have to do with the dollar or is some of it related to demand
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Post by socal on Jun 19, 2008 7:44:23 GMT -6
Okay so that might be a paraphrase but today in the Rose Garden the president delivered a speech urging Congress to lift its ban on offshort drilling and further explore the many other energy options that exist within our country. It's empty rhetoric equivalent to the 'I'll touch if you touch it' argument that BTRs buddies use to con him into getting herpes but it's a step in the right direction. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080618/ap_on_bi_ge/offshore_oilIt seems the WSJ disagrees with Bush: online.wsj.com/article/SB121383994611987281.html
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Post by ignatiusreilly on Jun 19, 2008 8:17:35 GMT -6
You guys should take a trip to the Boundary Waters Wilderness Area sometime. Then you'll realize how important it is to leave these few remaining natural areas alone.
F*ck oil. We're going to be off that sh*t in a few years. I say leave it in the ground.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Oct 24, 2008 15:53:58 GMT -6
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