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Post by twinegarden on Jul 25, 2008 11:41:24 GMT -6
We just did the draft order for my office Fantasy Football here today and I was hoping you guys could help me strategize. I have the 10th and 11th pick of a 10 man league. Here are some ideas I have:
1. Draft either a combo of Tony Homo/Terell Owens, Tom Brady/Randy Moss, or Peyton Manning/Reggie Wayne.
Pros: With 1 pt/25 yds for QB's 1pt/10 yds WR's and 6 points each for TD's a big game for any one of these duos could put up some massive points.
Cons: I wouldn't be able to pick a RB until the 30/31st picks of the draft, by then there would be pretty much only scrubs left, I'd have to strike gold with a sleeper. The odds of getting these combos is probably pretty slim (the Manning/Wayne or Homo/Owens combo would be the most likely available).
2. Get two of the best RB's remaing, which probably won't be the greatest picks (maybe Marshawn Lynch and Ryan Grant).
Pros: Both of these guys could have huge break out years.
Cons: Both of these guys could be huge busts.
Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Let me know what you guys think.
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Post by Dr. Doofenshmirtz (Heywood) on Jul 25, 2008 11:55:03 GMT -6
Take 2 RBs, they are a premium. You can usually get 2 solid RBs at 10 & 11. I usually take RBs with my first 3 picks and then 2 WRs and then QB (if a decent QB isn't available I will take a 3rd WR).
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Post by NotMyKid on Jul 25, 2008 12:04:43 GMT -6
Take 2 RBs, they are a premium. You can usually get 2 solid RBs at 10 & 11. I usually take RBs with my first 3 picks and then 2 WRs and then QB (if a decent QB isn't available I will take a 3rd WR). What he said unless Manning or Brady are still out there I would go with one of them and a RB.
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Post by twinegarden on Jul 25, 2008 12:07:00 GMT -6
My hesitation with Manning stems from reports that he has a bum knee. Although I did read that he could be ready by week 3 of the preseason. Every good player has an off year and he could be due for one, especially if he isn't at 100%. Then again, it's not like he is a mobile QB either.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Jul 25, 2008 12:18:03 GMT -6
You want Jon Kitna on your team. Yes that's right, Jon Kitna. Lions are going all the way this year. If it's a combo you're looking for, Kitna/Roy Williams.
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Post by twinegarden on Jul 25, 2008 12:19:06 GMT -6
You want Jon Kitna on your team. Yes that's right, Jon Kitna. Lions are going all the way this year.
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Post by idrinkthereforeiam on Jul 25, 2008 12:25:54 GMT -6
Go for two RBs at that position. You won't have many options in the 3rd round if you don't.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jul 25, 2008 12:49:36 GMT -6
If your overall game plan is to not be laughed at by anyone with a life, I strongly suggest you quit fantasy football at once.
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Post by twinegarden on Jul 25, 2008 13:13:14 GMT -6
If your overall game plan is to not be laughed at by anyone with a life, I strongly suggest you quit fantasy football at once. What is that supposed to mean?
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Post by cmonhox on Jul 25, 2008 13:21:09 GMT -6
Slightly disagree with taking two RB's, unless you have a shot at two stars like an Adrian Peterson or LD Tomlinson.
The last few years, I was stacked at one position and not another. IMO, it's better to get a balance throughout the roster. While you may not have have the stars at each position, you'll be less likely to have off weeks; and you can always pick up the next RB in line when the starter goes down -- which is pretty much a guarantee (just look at Green Bay - Ryan Grant was a 3rd stringer brought up b/c of injury, KC and Miami last year).
My suggestion would be to get a RB and a WR. The worst position to be in is loaded in one area and sparse in another. Makes it hard to trade as well b/c everyone knows you need a WR if you went out and loaded on RB.
Wait on the QB's b/c there is usually someone no-one's heard of/drafted that comes out of the woodwork (last year-Derek Anderson, Cle) you can pick up early in most seasons. Load up all you can on RBs and WRs early.
All that said, I don't waste time with FFB anymore - found it to be too much of a time committment. FFB was the only reason I watched any NFL.
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Post by twinegarden on Jul 25, 2008 13:42:58 GMT -6
I think I'll just have to trust my gut and see what's available when the time comes. I know in my league things are weighted so that RB's aren't quite the money players they used to be. Thankfully the time commitment for FFB isn't a problem since we are slow during much of football season and I have plenty of time at work to check up on things.
Thanks for your input, fellas. I'll definately be taking everyones advice into consideration (except for the Jon Kitna suggestion).
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Jul 25, 2008 14:07:49 GMT -6
Thanks for your input, fellas. I'll definately be taking everyones advice into consideration (except for the Jon Kitna suggestion). Your loss dude. I'll make sure call you when he's leading the NFL in TD's.
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Post by twinegarden on Jul 25, 2008 14:14:18 GMT -6
Maybe I'll pick him up in a later round.
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Post by socal on Jul 25, 2008 14:27:36 GMT -6
Get a membership to footballguys.com footballguys.com/They have this thing called "Draft Dominator"... it's a draft program/tool included with your membership. You download the master (and the once or twice / wk updates). You plug in your league's scoring, etc - and it tells you the best options available. I used it for 3 years - and have had great luck with it. ...Plus there are plenty of places where you can do mock drafts. Personally, I never plan to get anyone. At your draft position, everything hinges on how intelligent your co-owners are / what their emotions tell them. Just get the best players available... don't reach for a RB if Moss or Manning is still there. Get the best players available - then forget about needs in that position. That's where the program I mentioned comes in. It takes the emotion out of it - and shows you the best value.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jul 25, 2008 16:54:29 GMT -6
If your overall game plan is to not be laughed at by anyone with a life, I strongly suggest you quit fantasy football at once. What is that supposed to mean? It pretty much means fantasy football is for total no-life, annoying, childish, dipshit losers. ...no offense if you like it or anything...
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Post by twinegarden on Jul 25, 2008 17:05:40 GMT -6
What is that supposed to mean? It pretty much means fantasy football is for total no-life, annoying, childish, dipshit losers. ...no offense if you like it or anything... You sir, are an asshole. I think that people who get on message boards and talk shit about things that other people on said message board enjoy are the one's who truly have no life. If your life is so exciting and awesome, what great things do you do that make you so privy to shoot down the things others enjoy? Not talking smack just curious. I want to hear about these great things so my life can be as fulfilling as your's apparently is.
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Post by TBELL on Jul 25, 2008 18:06:56 GMT -6
I would go with 2 decent running backs. Unless you get a superstar QB like Romo or Manning who are going to put up huge numbers, the running backs typically score more for your team. The superstar running backs are usually few and far between, and after the top 10-12, IMO, there is a huge drop off in talent. You can usually get a decent scoring QB/WR combo on the way back in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Or even with one of those two picks, if a Dallas Clark/Antonio Gates type tight end is still available. Running backs are more valuable to a team, IMHO.
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Post by hawkeyedug on Jul 25, 2008 20:59:38 GMT -6
You need at least one back coming out of the 10/11 turn. Other than that I would go with best available. It sounds like you get 6pts for passing tds instead of the typical 4 so QBs are more valuable in your league so if you can get Brady (you won't) with your first two I'd take him. I would also be okay with Moss out of one of those picks, but he won't be there either. Just make sure you get at least 1 RB.
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Post by hawkeyedug on Jul 25, 2008 21:02:34 GMT -6
Socal, You pay $27 for a subscription to football guys? You know there are other sites out there that are probably just as good for free? I was interested to see the Draft Dominator program though, but I'm not paying just to look. Maybe I can find something to download for free....
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Post by idrinkthereforeiam on Jul 25, 2008 22:45:03 GMT -6
What is that supposed to mean? It pretty much means fantasy football is for total no-life, annoying, childish, dipshit losers. ...no offense if you like it or anything... I think my favorite posts are message board frequenters calling other people losers. So damn funny and hypocritical.
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Post by idrinkthereforeiam on Jul 25, 2008 22:46:14 GMT -6
Slightly disagree with taking two RB's, unless you have a shot at two stars like an Adrian Peterson or LD Tomlinson. The last few years, I was stacked at one position and not another. IMO, it's better to get a balance throughout the roster. While you may not have have the stars at each position, you'll be less likely to have off weeks; and you can always pick up the next RB in line when the starter goes down -- which is pretty much a guarantee (just look at Green Bay - Ryan Grant was a 3rd stringer brought up b/c of injury, KC and Miami last year). My suggestion would be to get a RB and a WR. The worst position to be in is loaded in one area and sparse in another. Makes it hard to trade as well b/c everyone knows you need a WR if you went out and loaded on RB. Wait on the QB's b/c there is usually someone no-one's heard of/drafted that comes out of the woodwork (last year-Derek Anderson, Cle) you can pick up early in most seasons. Load up all you can on RBs and WRs early. All that said, I don't waste time with FFB anymore - found it to be too much of a time committment. FFB was the only reason I watched any NFL. Problem with that is, most teams require 2 RBs. If you wait until the 3rd or 4th round, you are going to have 1 decent RB and then a really shitty one. It's best to get two great RBs right away. There are many more options at the WR position down the draft.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Jul 25, 2008 23:45:15 GMT -6
Man, to think there are so many total no-life, annoying, childish, dipshit losers out there.
Ghost - how do you sleep at night? Especially when there are hat-wearing soccer haters out there that love fantasy football...you must be one misanthropic individual.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jul 26, 2008 8:27:59 GMT -6
The potential problem with going sick WR/QB combo with those picks is that if their team has locked up a bye in the playoffs by week 16, you'll get reduced production out of them in the 15th, 16th and 17th weeks of the season, unless of course, they are playing to stay undefeated. If you have a playoff system, you could get hosed.
BTR sleeper RB pick - 'shard Mendenhall. Willie Parker is a speed guy who is slowing down a bit - Steelers will get Mendenhall going early and often and he'll probably be their short yardage guy when they get down to the 2 yard line.
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Post by cmonhox on Jul 26, 2008 10:23:19 GMT -6
Slightly disagree with taking two RB's, unless you have a shot at two stars like an Adrian Peterson or LD Tomlinson. The last few years, I was stacked at one position and not another. IMO, it's better to get a balance throughout the roster. While you may not have have the stars at each position, you'll be less likely to have off weeks; and you can always pick up the next RB in line when the starter goes down -- which is pretty much a guarantee (just look at Green Bay - Ryan Grant was a 3rd stringer brought up b/c of injury, KC and Miami last year). My suggestion would be to get a RB and a WR. The worst position to be in is loaded in one area and sparse in another. Makes it hard to trade as well b/c everyone knows you need a WR if you went out and loaded on RB. Wait on the QB's b/c there is usually someone no-one's heard of/drafted that comes out of the woodwork (last year-Derek Anderson, Cle) you can pick up early in most seasons. Load up all you can on RBs and WRs early. All that said, I don't waste time with FFB anymore - found it to be too much of a time committment. FFB was the only reason I watched any NFL. Problem with that is, most teams require 2 RBs. If you wait until the 3rd or 4th round, you are going to have 1 decent RB and then a really shitty one. It's best to get two great RBs right away. There are many more options at the WR position down the draft. I don't disagree with you or other posts stating to pick up the 2 RBs early, if they are productive and point generating. To clarify what I was getting at: In the league I was in the last 4 years, you had a 2RB, 2WR and an alternate RB/WR start each game. One year I was loaded at RB but literally had no WR production and the next vice versa. It was much easier to pick up RB's like Grant and the backup KC had last year than it was to find good productive backup WR. I guess my point was, you wouldn't be all that wrong going with a really productive WR if available in that slot as well. Seemed to me starting RBs are typically the first to go down with injuries and productive backups are a lot easier to pick up off waivers than WR which always seem to be scarce. For some reason, in our league at least, it was really hard to find good/producing WR's as the season goes on if one were injured.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Jul 26, 2008 18:43:25 GMT -6
I really thought that the jokeiness of my comments were obvious because they were so over the top. bince apparently they were not, I sincerely apologize to Twine for making fun of him.
Sorry your so damned gay! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!11!
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