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Post by roxxstar on Mar 16, 2009 11:09:23 GMT -6
If you are 24/7 smoker, you pretty much have to do the Whizzanator or get someone else to pee for you. If you are an occasional smoker, weed can leave your system in less than 30 days via a urine test. Let's say BTR smoked some fat bongs on March 1.......now BTR's firm tells him he's got to take a urine test tomorrow. If BTR hasn't smoked fat bongs bince 3-1-09 and was an occasional smoker before March 1........BTR just needs to drink a gallon of water or iced tea tonight before bed. Pretty much guarantee that nothing will show up on BTR's urine test tomorrow if he follows that protocol. This kind of pisses me off... All you fucktards that aren't being laid off, could be instantly fired for your drug use. And a dude that hasn't even been drunk in over a decade is stocking up on products that are normally a staple for druggies - so he can at least feed his kids once he's laid off. ...And to think that some people bitch about "illegals" taking all the jobs. Kiss my soon to be Ramen/Mac&Cheese eating ass. PS - If there's a job opening for a "Clean Pisser", let me know. I understand why that would bug you socal. But there are lots of dumb fucks out there who have jobs, when good people don't. It's just another reason why the world as we know it is fucked up. I would only caution you not to misplace your anger on the herb smokers (not that you would). We are good employees just trying to make a living; same as anyone else.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Mar 16, 2009 11:45:46 GMT -6
This kind of pisses me off... All you fucktards that aren't being laid off, could be instantly fired for your drug use. And a dude that hasn't even been drunk in over a decade is stocking up on products that are normally a staple for druggies - so he can at least feed his kids once he's laid off. ...And to think that some people bitch about "illegals" taking all the jobs. Kiss my soon to be Ramen/Mac&Cheese eating ass. PS - If there's a job opening for a "Clean Pisser", let me know. I understand why that would bug you socal. But there are lots of dumb fucks out there who have jobs, when good people don't. It's just another reason why the world as we know it is fucked up. I would only caution you not to misplace your anger on the herb smokers (not that you would). We are good employees just trying to make a living; same as anyone else. There are plenty of other segments of the working population you can direct your rage towards.........i.e. financial advisors who still have jobs.
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Post by socal on Mar 16, 2009 12:39:30 GMT -6
This kind of pisses me off... All you fucktards that aren't being laid off, could be instantly fired for your drug use. And a dude that hasn't even been drunk in over a decade is stocking up on products that are normally a staple for druggies - so he can at least feed his kids once he's laid off. ...And to think that some people bitch about "illegals" taking all the jobs. Kiss my soon to be Ramen/Mac&Cheese eating ass. PS - If there's a job opening for a "Clean Pisser", let me know. I understand why that would bug you socal. But there are lots of dumb fucks out there who have jobs, when good people don't. It's just another reason why the world as we know it is fucked up. I would only caution you not to misplace your anger on the herb smokers (not that you would). We are good employees just trying to make a living; same as anyone else. Misplace?!!!? MISPLACE!!! (in Jim Mora "Playoff's" tone of voice) Didn't my impeccable use of the word "fucktard" give a hint to my absolute, total, and unbelievably-amazing seriousness on the matter? The hypocritical "Conservative" hippies piss me off the most... not only would they bogart their bud, they constantly bitch about wanting to bogart their "green" too --- all the while bashing "hippies". Those motherfuckers would literally f**k their mothers if given the chance. Don't even get me started on goddamned St. Patrick's Day..... Those cocksucking ginger bastard Irish. f**k them and their water-brained green. Bend over... I'll show you what to do with your punk-assed shillelagh!
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Post by mattahawk on Mar 16, 2009 15:48:18 GMT -6
If you are 24/7 smoker, you pretty much have to do the Whizzanator or get someone else to pee for you. If you are an occasional smoker, weed can leave your system in less than 30 days via a urine test. Let's say BTR smoked some fat bongs on March 1.......now BTR's firm tells him he's got to take a urine test tomorrow. If BTR hasn't smoked fat bongs bince 3-1-09 and was an occasional smoker before March 1........BTR just needs to drink a gallon of water or iced tea tonight before bed. Pretty much guarantee that nothing will show up on BTR's urine test tomorrow if he follows that protocol. This kind of pisses me off... All you fucktards that aren't being laid off, could be instantly fired for your drug use. And a dude that hasn't even been drunk in over a decade is stocking up on products that are normally a staple for druggies - so he can at least feed his kids once he's laid off. ...And to think that some people bitch about "illegals" taking all the jobs. Kiss my soon to be Ramen/Mac&Cheese eating ass. PS - If there's a job opening for a "Clean Pisser", let me know. You probably didn't read the article in the California paper about "illegals" expecting to take away about 15% of the construction jobs from the "legal citizens" If my memory is correct that amounts to over 100,000 jobs taken away from hard working American citizens such as yourself. But your probably right, no big deal.
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 17, 2009 8:11:16 GMT -6
I know I’m in the minority on this one, but what is the difference between “illegal” Mexicans and “legal” Mexicans? Besides a piece of paper that is. IMO, it’s just kind of silly how angry people get at the “illegals”. Are they really that different then our ancestors? They are coming to a new country to try and make a better life for themselves and their families. Isn’t that what the “American Dream” is all about? Most “illegals” are working shitty jobs for shitty pay; jobs that most people don’t want anyway. I just don’t understand the whole “you are in my country illegally, get the hell out” mentality. It’s especially amusing when you think about it from the perspective that our ancestors came to this land (a land that was already populated by a native people) and took the land for themselves, just because they wanted it. In the process they slaughtered the native people, destroyed their homes and raped their women. But hey, we gave them casinos so it’s all good right? We’re even. LOL This isn’t directed directly at you Matta. It’s just what I believe. Maybe it will stimulate some more robust discussion. "They took our jobs!"
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Post by socal on Mar 17, 2009 8:40:50 GMT -6
You probably didn't read the article in the California paper about "illegals" expecting to take away about 15% of the construction jobs from the "legal citizens" If my memory is correct that amounts to over 100,000 jobs taken away from hard working American citizens such as yourself. But your probably right, no big deal. Too bad all those people that whine about taxation of the rich... aka the "Wealth Creators" choose to hire the illegals instead of Americans. On this topic, what's the difference between someone that has done one illegal thing in their life --- illegally crossing the border to our country vs. a US citizen that performs actions that are illegal on a daily basis? What justification do they have in dictating laws or morality on others?
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Post by mattahawk on Mar 17, 2009 8:48:29 GMT -6
I see what you are saying and I agree largely with it. Especially they way we treated the Native Americans the last 100-400 years.
The thing that gets me with illegal aliens is their attitude that they deserve it. That they should be able to come in here and get everything handed to them and not work for it. (some do work for it and very hard, others not so much.)
They come to this country and expect us to provide interpreters to them because they are either unwilling, unable, or just to lazy to learn it. Their have been basketball players from Europe and Asia that have learned the basics of English in 6 months where as it seems a large percentage of the hispanics just don't care. I must say that entitlement feeling is had by a large % of Americans also. People buying $300,000 houses on a $40,000 a year salary. Visit a WIC office at your local county public health office and I would be willing to wager that half of the people in there are illegal hispanics.
I came to this country, without a greencard or the proper immigration papers, now I can't find a job to support my family so I want you to take care of me. Does that make sense? In a time when alot of Americans are upset that we are sending billions of $$$'s to poor countries we can't even take care of our homeless or poor?
I brought this up in an earlier thread a couple of months ago, but their is a state in the northeast, Maine, Massachusetts? not sure, but they were/are spending $500 million dollars a year just in supporting illegal immigrants with WIC, Title IX, Food stamps, etc. It was driving the state bankrupt so the Governor cut them off. Or at least he said he intended too, not sure if he followed through on that.
How many illegal immigrants commit crimes, like murder, robbery etc and are taking up our prisons? In California I know it is a bunch. It is costing states a shitload of money to keep them in prison. There was an article in the paper last week about some 1,200 illegal immigrants from South America or the Caribbean I think, that are criminals, we are trying to deport them and their country won't take them back.
The fact of the matter is we may very well need the hispanics, legal and illegal alike, to keep up with the manual jobs as our country gets older. I can live with that. If we need to up the rate of greencards or other papers handed out to immigrants then that is what we need to do. I just think their is a better way
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Post by isu is shit on Mar 17, 2009 8:55:55 GMT -6
I know I’m in the minority on this one, but what is the difference between “illegal” Mexicans and “legal” Mexicans? Besides a piece of paper that is. IMO, it’s just kind of silly how angry people get at the “illegals”. Are they really that different then our ancestors? They are coming to a new country to try and make a better life for themselves and their families. Isn’t that what the “American Dream” is all about? Most “illegals” are working shitty jobs for shitty pay; jobs that most people don’t want anyway. I just don’t understand the whole “you are in my country illegally, get the hell out” mentality. It’s especially amusing when you think about it from the perspective that our ancestors came to this land (a land that was already populated by a native people) and took the land for themselves, just because they wanted it. In the process they slaughtered the native people, destroyed their homes and raped their women. But hey, we gave them casinos so it’s all good right? We’re even. LOL This isn’t directed directly at you Matta. It’s just what I believe. Maybe it will stimulate some more robust discussion. "They took our jobs!" I don't have a problem with immigrants being in our country, but there's a legal way to do it, not just crossing the border. It does piss me off that there are struggling Americans looking for jobs that people who aren't supposed to be in this country have. I understand why immigrants come to this country, to chase the "American Dream" but there's a legal way to do it.
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Post by mattahawk on Mar 17, 2009 8:58:30 GMT -6
You probably didn't read the article in the California paper about "illegals" expecting to take away about 15% of the construction jobs from the "legal citizens" If my memory is correct that amounts to over 100,000 jobs taken away from hard working American citizens such as yourself. But your probably right, no big deal. Too bad all those people that whine about taxation of the rich... aka the "Wealth Creators" choose to hire the illegals instead of Americans. On this topic, what's the difference between someone that has done one illegal thing in their life --- illegally crossing the border to our country vs. a US citizen that performs actions that are illegal on a daily basis? What justification do they have in dictating laws or morality on others? I know what you are saying and I agree with you 100% also. There should be stiff penalties including jail time for anyone that hires illegal immigrants. I have ZERO problem with that. The people that cross here illegaly are doing just that. Crossing illegally. Have you ever watched the tv show, Homeland Security? On ABC at 7pm tonight? Excellent show. A good % of the people that work for the border patrol and the DHS are "legal immigrants." Everytime they catch some guy or chick trying to sneak some alien across the border in their car they tell them, hey, I came here the legal way. I immigrated with my family when I was 5 or 8 or 10 years old. There are alot of hispanics on that show and they always stress every time that they did it the legal way and they can too. I find it funny that hispanics that came here legally want and expect other hispanics to come here legally but American citizens think we should just let them in and come and go as they please.
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Post by socal on Mar 17, 2009 9:01:22 GMT -6
I see what you are saying and I agree largely with it. Especially they way we treated the Native Americans the last 100-400 years. The thing that gets me with illegal aliens is their attitude that they deserve it. That they should be able to come in here and get everything handed to them and not work for it. (some do work for it and very hard, others not so much.) They come to this country and expect us to provide interpreters to them because they are either unwilling, unable, or just to lazy to learn it. Their have been basketball players from Europe and Asia that have learned the basics of English in 6 months where as it seems a large percentage of the hispanics just don't care. I must say that entitlement feeling is had by a large % of Americans also. People buying $300,000 houses on a $40,000 a year salary. Visit a WIC office at your local county public health office and I would be willing to wager that half of the people in there are illegal hispanics. I came to this country, without a greencard or the proper immigration papers, now I can't find a job to support my family so I want you to take care of me. Does that make sense? In a time when alot of Americans are upset that we are sending billions of $$$'s to poor countries we can't even take care of our homeless or poor? I brought this up in an earlier thread a couple of months ago, but their is a state in the northeast, Maine, Massachusetts? not sure, but they were/are spending $500 million dollars a year just in supporting illegal immigrants with WIC, Title IX, Food stamps, etc. It was driving the state bankrupt so the Governor cut them off. Or at least he said he intended too, not sure if he followed through on that. How many illegal immigrants commit crimes, like murder, robbery etc and are taking up our prisons? In California I know it is a bunch. It is costing states a shitload of money to keep them in prison. There was an article in the paper last week about some 1,200 illegal immigrants from South America or the Caribbean I think, that are criminals, we are trying to deport them and their country won't take them back. The fact of the matter is we may very well need the hispanics, legal and illegal alike, to keep up with the manual jobs as our country gets older. I can live with that. If we need to up the rate of greencards or other papers handed out to immigrants then that is what we need to do. I just think their is a better way So what's your solution... Spend many billions more on a fence that will cause a half-hour delay on their entry? Start a publicity campaign and create an "Immigration Czar" - and get similar results to our "War on Drugs"? You are focusing on generation 1. How many children / grand children / great-grandchildren of "illegals" remain in the same state of being that you wrote about? Illegal or not, people don't live forever. Those that were illegal will die, leaving their legal children that grow up and have the ability to do anything every other American can. And many do so with more vigor because they know the stories about not having things we take for granted.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Mar 17, 2009 9:02:12 GMT -6
I know I’m in the minority on this one, but what is the difference between “illegal” Mexicans and “legal” Mexicans? Besides a piece of paper that is. IMO, it’s just kind of silly how angry people get at the “illegals”. Are they really that different then our ancestors? They are coming to a new country to try and make a better life for themselves and their families. Isn’t that what the “American Dream” is all about? Most “illegals” are working shitty jobs for shitty pay; jobs that most people don’t want anyway. I just don’t understand the whole “you are in my country illegally, get the hell out” mentality. It’s especially amusing when you think about it from the perspective that our ancestors came to this land (a land that was already populated by a native people) and took the land for themselves, just because they wanted it. In the process they slaughtered the native people, destroyed their homes and raped their women. But hey, we gave them casinos so it’s all good right? We’re even. LOL This isn’t directed directly at you Matta. It’s just what I believe. Maybe it will stimulate some more robust discussion. "They took our jobs!" I don't have a problem with immigrants being in our country, but there's a legal way to do it, not just crossing the border. It does piss me off that there are struggling Americans looking for jobs that people who aren't supposed to be in this country have. I understand why immigrants come to this country, to chase the "American Dream" but there's a legal way to do it. Right. Illegals - don't pay taxes Legals - pay taxes That's pretty basic. This isn't really a huge issue for me, but it does concern me sometimes that we're going to end up overpopulated like China, and be mandated to on the number of children we can have.
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 17, 2009 9:21:25 GMT -6
I see what you are saying and I agree largely with it. Especially they way we treated the Native Americans the last 100-400 years. The thing that gets me with illegal aliens is their attitude that they deserve it. That they should be able to come in here and get everything handed to them and not work for it. (some do work for it and very hard, others not so much.) They come to this country and expect us to provide interpreters to them because they are either unwilling, unable, or just to lazy to learn it. Their have been basketball players from Europe and Asia that have learned the basics of English in 6 months where as it seems a large percentage of the hispanics just don't care. I must say that entitlement feeling is had by a large % of Americans also. People buying $300,000 houses on a $40,000 a year salary. Visit a WIC office at your local county public health office and I would be willing to wager that half of the people in there are illegal hispanics. I came to this country, without a greencard or the proper immigration papers, now I can't find a job to support my family so I want you to take care of me. Does that make sense? In a time when alot of Americans are upset that we are sending billions of $$$'s to poor countries we can't even take care of our homeless or poor? I brought this up in an earlier thread a couple of months ago, but their is a state in the northeast, Maine, Massachusetts? not sure, but they were/are spending $500 million dollars a year just in supporting illegal immigrants with WIC, Title IX, Food stamps, etc. It was driving the state bankrupt so the Governor cut them off. Or at least he said he intended too, not sure if he followed through on that. How many illegal immigrants commit crimes, like murder, robbery etc and are taking up our prisons? In California I know it is a bunch. It is costing states a shitload of money to keep them in prison. There was an article in the paper last week about some 1,200 illegal immigrants from South America or the Caribbean I think, that are criminals, we are trying to deport them and their country won't take them back. The fact of the matter is we may very well need the hispanics, legal and illegal alike, to keep up with the manual jobs as our country gets older. I can live with that. If we need to up the rate of greencards or other papers handed out to immigrants then that is what we need to do. I just think their is a better way So what's your solution... Spend many billions more on a fence that will cause a half-hour delay on their entry? Start a publicity campaign and create an "Immigration Czar" - and get similar results to our "War on Drugs"? You are focusing on generation 1. How many children / grand children / great-grandchildren of "illegals" remain in the same state of being that you wrote about? Illegal or not, people don't live forever. Those that were illegal will die, leaving their legal children that grow up and have the ability to do anything every other American can. And many do so with more vigor because they know the stories about not having things we take for granted. Cosign. The thing is that these people are already here. They are going to keep coming. We aren't going to stop that. They are going to have kids that are "legal". The fact that we are going to categorize the parents as "illegal", but the offspring as "legal" is just plain silly. It isn't going to help the situation by trying to split families up. What I'm saying is instead of focusing so much on the problem of illegals and how to get rid of them, we should focus on how to help them improve themselves. We should provide them with every opportunity that any other citizen has; stress education and job skills. It goes back to what I’ve said before, the country is only as strong as its weakest links. The better off the illegal immigrant population is, the better off America as whole will be.
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 17, 2009 9:28:55 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with immigrants being in our country, but there's a legal way to do it, not just crossing the border. It does piss me off that there are struggling Americans looking for jobs that people who aren't supposed to be in this country have. I understand why immigrants come to this country, to chase the "American Dream" but there's a legal way to do it. Right. Illegals - don't pay taxes Legals - pay taxes That's pretty basic. This isn't really a huge issue for me, but it does concern me sometimes that we're going to end up overpopulated like China, and be mandated to on the number of children we can have. I’m not really versed on the inner workings of illegal immigrants and how they get paid, but I remember one of the problems a lot of people have with them is that they use fake or stolen SSN’s to obtain work. So, a lot of them actually do pay taxes. And the ones that don’t, aren’t making the kind of money that their taxes are sorely missed. But either way, if we drastically simplify the process of becoming a legal citizen, then there is an another benefit (increased tax revenue).
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Post by mattahawk on Mar 17, 2009 9:36:37 GMT -6
I see what you are saying and I agree largely with it. Especially they way we treated the Native Americans the last 100-400 years. The thing that gets me with illegal aliens is their attitude that they deserve it. That they should be able to come in here and get everything handed to them and not work for it. (some do work for it and very hard, others not so much.) They come to this country and expect us to provide interpreters to them because they are either unwilling, unable, or just to lazy to learn it. Their have been basketball players from Europe and Asia that have learned the basics of English in 6 months where as it seems a large percentage of the hispanics just don't care. I must say that entitlement feeling is had by a large % of Americans also. People buying $300,000 houses on a $40,000 a year salary. Visit a WIC office at your local county public health office and I would be willing to wager that half of the people in there are illegal hispanics. I came to this country, without a greencard or the proper immigration papers, now I can't find a job to support my family so I want you to take care of me. Does that make sense? In a time when alot of Americans are upset that we are sending billions of $$$'s to poor countries we can't even take care of our homeless or poor? I brought this up in an earlier thread a couple of months ago, but their is a state in the northeast, Maine, Massachusetts? not sure, but they were/are spending $500 million dollars a year just in supporting illegal immigrants with WIC, Title IX, Food stamps, etc. It was driving the state bankrupt so the Governor cut them off. Or at least he said he intended too, not sure if he followed through on that. How many illegal immigrants commit crimes, like murder, robbery etc and are taking up our prisons? In California I know it is a bunch. It is costing states a shitload of money to keep them in prison. There was an article in the paper last week about some 1,200 illegal immigrants from South America or the Caribbean I think, that are criminals, we are trying to deport them and their country won't take them back. The fact of the matter is we may very well need the hispanics, legal and illegal alike, to keep up with the manual jobs as our country gets older. I can live with that. If we need to up the rate of greencards or other papers handed out to immigrants then that is what we need to do. I just think their is a better way So what's your solution... Spend many billions more on a fence that will cause a half-hour delay on their entry? I don't know. That may be an option. I guess we need someone who could do the math and figure if it would save the taxpayers money to do so. By that I mean spend X amount of billions of $'s to build a fence and have it manned or Spend X amount of billions of $'s x 10 to support illegal immigrants and keep the illegal criminals in jail. Whatever is cheaper, I am for. Start a publicity campaign and create an "Immigration Czar" - and get similar results to our "War on Drugs"? This is/was a waste of time. Keep it under the Dept' of Homeland Security and let him handle it. You are focusing on generation 1. How many children / grand children / great-grandchildren of "illegals" remain in the same state of being that you wrote about? The problem with the illegals is that the Democrats were trying to introduce a bill, last year I believe, that said if a family crosses the border illegally and has a child then that child is a legal citizen.
Fine, no problem, but that child then has the right/ability to bring up to 70 or 80 some relatives from their native country here. It might have been in the kennedy/mccain immigration bill, not sure. But that is as pure a bullshit legislation as there is right there. Illegal or not, people don't live forever. Those that were illegal will die, leaving their legal children that grow up and have the ability to do anything every other American can. And many do so with more vigor because they know the stories about not having things we take for granted. Agreed on that. The problem is that there are more crossing every day. To the tune of thousands a day. We thought when Reagan was president that if we just made all the illegals, legal, then we wouldn't have to worry about this again and it would all be taken care of. That didn't work so well as we now have an estimated 12 to 20 million illegals in this country.
Every other country in this world seems to have the ability to more or less shut their border down but us. Syria does it with Iraq, Israel does it with Syria, Jordan and Egypt. The countries in Europe do it, at least the ones that want to. Russia seems to be able to do a pretty good job. Want to try sneaking into China? Good luck. But the great US of A? Not a chance.
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Post by socal on Mar 17, 2009 9:41:13 GMT -6
You need to keep up to date on the news...
There have been quite a few stories about illegals going back home / the volumes you speak of dwindling ---- as they can't find work themselves.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Mar 17, 2009 9:50:52 GMT -6
Right. Illegals - don't pay Smurfs Legals - pay Smurfs That's pretty basic. Smurf isn't really a huge issue for me, but it does concern me sometimes that we're going to end up overpopulated like China, and be mandated to on the number of children we can have. I’m not really versed on the inner workings of illegal immigrants and how they get paid, but I remember one of the problems a lot of people have with them is that they use fake or stolen SSN’s to obtain work. So, a lot of them actually do pay Smurfs. And the ones that don’t, aren’t making the kind of money that their Smurfs are sorely missed. But either way, if we drastically simplify the process of becoming a legal citizen, then there is an another benefit (increased tax revenue). You don't have a problem with using stolen or fake SSN's as long as they "pay" t a x es? I've had my # and other personal info stolen and let me tell you, it took a lot of effort, time(including calls to inept government workers who don't give a fucking shit) and money to take care of the problem. I wouldn't wish that process on anyone. Increased tax revenue? Most of these folks will be getting "tax cuts"...or rather, tax subsidies.
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 17, 2009 10:06:03 GMT -6
I never said I don't have a problem with using fake or stolen SSN's. It is obviously wrong to steal anything, including identities.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Mar 18, 2009 18:19:07 GMT -6
So what's your solution... Spend many billions more on a fence that will cause a half-hour delay on their entry? Start a publicity campaign and create an "Immigration Czar" - and get similar results to our "War on Drugs"? You are focusing on generation 1. How many children / grand children / great-grandchildren of "illegals" remain in the same state of being that you wrote about? Illegal or not, people don't live forever. Those that were illegal will die, leaving their legal children that grow up and have the ability to do anything every other American can. And many do so with more vigor because they know the stories about not having things we take for granted. The thing is that these people are already here. Copout.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 18, 2009 21:03:24 GMT -6
The real problem is that a first-world nation has a huge border with a third-world nation. If Mexico and the countries to the south of it weren't dysfunctional hellholes with fucked-up economic systems, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Post by twinegarden on Mar 18, 2009 21:49:34 GMT -6
Not that this is related to immigration all that much but it seems right now like the Mexican drug cartels are in a position where they are almost poised to overthrow Mexicos government. I think I read somewhere that the number of foot soldiers to legitimate soldiers (many of whom are corrupt themselves) is nearly two to one.
Sounds like the movie "Traffic" barely scratches the surface as far as how bad things really are down there.
Legalize marijuana in the US and well help solve alot of these problems in Mexico by cutting off the major source of income for the billionare drug dealers there.
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 19, 2009 8:43:45 GMT -6
Why don't we just buy Mexico and then we will have a lot smaller border to worry about.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Mar 19, 2009 8:55:34 GMT -6
Not that this is related to immigration all that much but it seems right now like the Mexican drug cartels are in a position where they are almost poised to overthrow Mexicos government. I think I read somewhere that the number of foot soldiers to legitimate soldiers (many of whom are corrupt themselves) is nearly two to one. Sounds like the movie "Traffic" barely scratches the surface as far as how bad things really are down there. Legalize marijuana in the US and well help solve alot of these problems in Mexico by cutting off the major source of income for the billionare drug dealers there. Legalization of marijuana is part of the solution. A great first step.
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Post by mattahawk on Mar 19, 2009 21:10:29 GMT -6
You need to keep up to date on the news... There have been quite a few stories about illegals going back home / the volumes you speak of dwindling ---- as they can't find work themselves. I am quite aware of that. My 5 year old has lost 2 classmates in her Kindergarten class. Octavio and this little snot that stole my 5 year olds coat last November. I will give her teacher and the Elementary school prinicipal some credit for "trying", if that's what you want to call it, to get it back. Thunder, agreed 100X over.
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