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Post by poncho72 on Apr 1, 2009 8:32:14 GMT -6
First off, I'm not a " get off my lawn " type.
I have a neighbor that lives 3 houses down from me. he has a son who is in 8th grade who visits every other weekend. We ( us and at least 3 other neighbors ) have had problems with this boy for the last 5 years, he will rip x-mas lights out of trees, knock on doors late at night, shine lazer lights through your house, shoot bb guns off aiming at random, shoot arrows off with a compound bow ( I have found 3 arrows sticking strait up in my 4 year old daughters play area in our backyard in the past 2 weeks ), and over the past year he likes to hit golf balls throughout the neighborhood, Monday I had 6 in my yard, the neighbors across the street had 8, the kid is hitting these balls and they are traveling across streets and at least over 3 houses.
My main concern is the little childeren that are playing outside and the risk of one of them, most importantly mine, getting shot or hit with a golf ball.
On a side note, the POS father also lets his bulldog shit in everyones yard, infact one neighbor bags all of it up once a week and sets in on the guys front porch, doesn't do any good.
Any suggestions on how to handle this shit?
I did contact the police on Monday, an officer stopped by and I had him document the golfballs and where they were sitting in my yard, just incase I, or anyone else in the neighborhood sustain damages or injuries from the little asshole teeing off in the future.
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Post by isu is shit on Apr 1, 2009 8:46:49 GMT -6
you haven't talked to the kid's dad? You don't think he'll do anything about it?
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Post by poncho72 on Apr 1, 2009 8:54:31 GMT -6
you haven't talked to the kid's dad? You don't think he'll do anything about it? I talked to the kids dad 4 years ago when his boy stomped out my wifes flower bed, or should I say, when I caught him stomping out my wifes flower bed as I was pulling into our driveway returning from work. I went down to talk with his dad, he asked if I had any proof, any evidence that it was his kid, I got nowhere. The father doesn't give a shit, even the policeman that stopped at my house Monday night knows he's a tool and knows all about his kids.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 1, 2009 9:06:23 GMT -6
If it were my house, I'd send them a written warning and then install video cameras on my property. Then, when they keep going on my yard and the dog keeps shitting on my yard, I'd call the cops with video evidence and ask to press charges. I would then threaten civil litigation as well. Liberals have NO respect for private property rights, you are clearly dealing with liberal hippies and you need to take quick and drastic action. The fact that you let this crap fester for so long is precisely why you are in this situation now.
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Post by mattahawk on Apr 1, 2009 9:36:43 GMT -6
BTR nailed it on the last part. Fortunately for you I have ALOT of experience with the problems you are describing Poncho.
1) Shooting off the arrow in city limits is generally a no-no. This situation popped up in town here last summer and the city council told them no more, sending them a letter by the city manager. Get them involved and tell them of the inherent dangers of an idiot firing a bow and arrow blindly where kids are playing, people working etc. Also hit him with a written letter from a lawyer saying you will sue him for every penny he is worth if your kids were to sustain any injuries from his idiot kids carelessness.
2) The dog shitting in your yard. Again, get the city involved, city manager, city attorney, the police etc. Check to see if you have a leash law. Mine does and I had neighboors doing the same thing. The one behind me and the one on my right. The one behind me I got the police involved and said he is letting the dog loose on purpose to shit in others yards. The cop said he would talk to the city attorney who is a lazy POS and said he didn't think he was violating it. The idiot behind me didn't know the CA didn't care and the cop sided with me and said he was going to write him a ticket if he gets called back again. The idiot didn't know that the CA would not prosecute him but the cop threatening him with an 85$ ticket was enough to scare him off. The neighbor to the right of me? I took a scoop shovel and picked up the poop and threw it back in their yard, usually landing on the roof, their patio, hitting the side of the house etc. Every once in a while the dog will poop in our yard but maybe a couple times a summer and only if the owners are not paying attention.
3) the golf balls in your yard? Designate a neighbor, who doesn't mind getting his hands dirty, to take one or two of the balls and pick a window in said idiots house and throw it through the window. Preferably a nice bay window, kind of expensive. The golf ball through the window should help him understand the problem he is causing.
Good luck and keep us informed how it's going.
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Post by isu is shit on Apr 1, 2009 9:53:50 GMT -6
Take a shit in his yard
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Post by poncho72 on Apr 1, 2009 9:59:47 GMT -6
All great ideas. I need to have a neighborhood meeting with some of the other victims and discuss some future plans, something needs to be done.
One of the biggest problems as well, I mentioned earlier how the father doesn't give a shit, well, he really doesn't give a shit in life in general, his house is falling apart, yard looks terrible, the only thing that is nice isn't even his, he drives a new car every night with dealer plates, he's a fuckin' car salesman.
So throwing shit on his lawn, roof or house, or even taking a shit in his lawn won't faze him. Breaking a window, that may get his attention, but it may go unnoticed for months, especially with the warm weather coming.
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Post by MoHawk on Apr 1, 2009 11:43:38 GMT -6
Sadly, I've gotta agree with BTR here. If you don't involve the cops in some way or somehow make him feel legally threatened in some way shape or form he'll continue to not give a shit and let his kid do whatever he feels like.
Maybe an idea is to jot down the name of the dealership he works at and show up with a letter to his employer about the behavior. Since the kid is firing off arrows and golf balls, I'm rather certain the owner of the dealership won't want his company attached to a dangerous situation such as that and say enough or find a new gig.
I'd hate to see anyone fired in this economy, but your family's safety has to come before anything like that.
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Post by socal on Apr 1, 2009 12:05:16 GMT -6
Screw the police, etc...
Whisper to the kid that you are making a trip to a firework friendly state to acquire some of the "good stuff"... then suggest he bundle at least 6 together and cut the fuses short to produce the desired effect.
Best case scenario is the kid isn't around. Worst case is that he will be incapable of swinging a golf club or operating a bow.
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Post by thunderhawk on Apr 1, 2009 12:31:25 GMT -6
Collect evidence, call the cops, file a civil lawsuit for destruction of property.
Bury that fucker.
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Post by scotthawk on Apr 1, 2009 14:07:51 GMT -6
I like the golf ball through the window idea. Maybe multiple golf balls. Maybe at 3 in the morning....I don't think anyone would be around to identify you. Can you get prints off of a golfball? Latex gloves....any gloves bulkier than that you risk the accuracy of your throw and might clank it off of the siding. Is this really that funny... Good luck. Seriously, I think I'd go the legal route.
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Post by Stukat on Apr 1, 2009 14:19:34 GMT -6
My father likes to hunt and over the last few years he has purchased several "Trail Cameras" that he uses to get pictures of wildlife in the area.
These are motion senstive digital cameras that are weatherproof and can last outside for weeks a time with no maintance and are not terribly expense (otherwise my dad wouldnt own one). Something along these lines would work well to capture picture evidence.
My dad was going to use it to catch whatever little neighborhood kid was stealing beer from the fridge in his garage. He did not because he felt the "flash" would give away the location of the camera and the beer thief would then destroy the camera. However, it doesnt sound like this kid is smart enough to notice that his picture is being taken.
Also, the only beer thief that my fathers camera would have caught red handed is me. I like beer. Other than me, it would be "the Jesus" who somehow got his Car stuck in my yard on one of his trips to my father's fridge.
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Post by mattahawk on Apr 1, 2009 21:15:15 GMT -6
My wife gets home from work today at about 4:50, walks into the house and says, why is the grill cover lying in the middle of the back yard? (I bought a Hawkeye grill cover at Wal-fart last summer It was on the grill this morning when I left for work. I said I was pretty sure it was on when I left at 11 for our Doctor appt's.
She said there were several kids from the house behind us, the one with the dog shitting in our yard but different owners now, playing when I got home. These are the same f***ers that threw 50-60 apples from their apple tree into my yard last fall. I told her it's game on with them little fukkers and i'm watching them.
This is going to get good. (me going into Rambo mode, lol.)
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Post by poncho72 on Apr 2, 2009 6:46:35 GMT -6
I like the trail cam idea, my bro has a half dozen of the infared ( no flash ) trail cams, I've been in talks with him recently about using them, however they are not cheap and if they get stolen I will owe him some serious $ especially if multiple cams get stolen. I'll keep on trying.
On another note, my little nemisis was in the local police log again last night because his mother couldn't locate him, according to the report the boy just walked out of his mothers home at 10:00 pm and by 11:00 he hadn't returned home, she called the police to help locate him, he returned on his own at 11:30, what reason does a 13 year old have to just leave his home at 10:00PM? I know the kids aunt ( works with me ) and she says that the boy has no respect for his mother, calls her names, tells her he can come and go as he pleases and do what he wants. According to her the father of the boy promotes bad mouthing the mother ( ex ) does the same thing and it just sends a message that it's ok to treat mom that way.
Unless this boy gets into trouble w/ the law soon ( so he can get some sort of help ) he is gonna be one major piece of shit when he gets older and cost the taxpayers a ton of money. He's heading down a dark road.
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Post by germaine on Apr 2, 2009 7:35:20 GMT -6
Would calling child protective services be too much?
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Post by poncho72 on Apr 2, 2009 8:47:02 GMT -6
I don't know who you would be trying to protect, the boy from himself, the boy from his POS father who encourages his delinquent behavior, or the mother who is trying to raise the kid but cannot control him.
the boy knows right from wrong, he's old enough to know, just doesn't give a shit about anything or anyone.
too bad the parent's share joint custody, if the mother had full custody, she'd send him away
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Post by MoHawk on Apr 2, 2009 8:54:33 GMT -6
You know, I kind of like germaine's idea. Contact child protective services and have the aunt be a witness. If the mother feels like its the only option, she may sign off on it.
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Post by twinegarden on Apr 2, 2009 9:15:22 GMT -6
You know, I kind of like germaine's idea. Contact child protective services and have the aunt be a witness. If the mother feels like its the only option, she may sign off on it. I'm not exactly sure what would make you guys think she would want the little shithead in her custody all the time. Could you imagine how horrible of a life that would be? Trying to watch over some little bastard who cares about nothing and being solely responsible for his inevitable life as a fuck up. Just sayin'.
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Post by poncho72 on Apr 2, 2009 18:58:19 GMT -6
So here is the latest, everything is good on the home front, nothing happening here ( he isn't messing with us, and the house is still standing ), I have become sort of friends with the mother of this little shithead ( I work with her sister and we have been communicating through her ). To put it lightly she is at her wits end with him, he has broken into her home when he was supposed to be at his fathers ( the mother and her new husband left one weekend for a getaway and came home to a trashed out home ), she has tried to reach but he isn't buying into whatever she trying to sell. like I said, she had to call the cops to locate him the other night and since he was out past curfew he was faced with it going on his record ( along with the breaking and entering of moms place ), anyway, since she has heard what we are dealing with she went ahead and allowed the dealings with the police on monday night to go on his record as well, which means he is one fuck up away from spending weekends working and dealing fulltime with a juvenile probation officer! She is way more fed up with the little POS than we are, I feel sorry for her in a way, she was screwed as soon as she had kids with the father. According to the mother, if the boy doesn't listen to the JPO, he will be shipped to a facility. So now it's a waiting game, he's gonna screw up, may not involve me, but I'm waiting. Can't happen soon enough.
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Post by MoHawk on Apr 2, 2009 19:54:04 GMT -6
You know, I kind of like germaine's idea. Contact child protective services and have the aunt be a witness. If the mother feels like its the only option, she may sign off on it. I'm not exactly sure what would make you guys think she would want the little shithead in her custody all the time. Could you imagine how horrible of a life that would be? Trying to watch over some little bastard who cares about nothing and being solely responsible for his inevitable life as a f**k up. Just sayin'. I'm not suggesting mom take over. I'm suggesting shipping the kid to military school or to Gitmo or wherever. Scare the Bejeezus out of him and scare him straight
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Post by mattahawk on Apr 3, 2009 10:30:06 GMT -6
Gitmo for teens. I like it.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on May 8, 2009 17:14:14 GMT -6
Any updates??
As for me, a few year's back there was this family with a little shit kinda like yours (not QUITE as bad, but still a little bastard). Anyway, he would roam around the neighborhood with a BB gun, shooting birds and squirrels. There are a lot of kids in our hood, and it's not like we live on the edge of town.
Anyway, one day I am looking out of our kitchen window and see this little shit hiding behind another neighbor's bush with his gun, aiming towards the house. Then, he shoot (and kills) this squirrel in her tree. Not only that, but he jumped over her fence (not sure how the lard ass little dbag made it) and got into her yard to get the squirrel.
Well, I ended up going over to this neighbor lady's house and letting her know what happened so that she could decide the next step. She called the cops (kudos to her!). Wasn't long before the little shit was talking to an officer and had his gun taken away.
The best part was, the "man" in the family was an associate pastor at some church in town. They were trash. The only "adult" was the 10 yr old girl that lived there. I felt sorry for her.
Anyway, moral of the story is that you need to start with the cops (so that there is at least some sort of documentation that a problem exists) and then go from there. If the cops won't handle it, YOU gotta handle it. And that means that you might have to think like the offending POS.
I like the shitting in their yard idea and also throwing the golf balls into their window idea, but ONLY after the cops refuse to help.
The way I see it, I'll make one attempt to handle in a civilized manner. After that, it's "whatever it takes". The ends justifies the means in cases like this.
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Post by Master Blaster on May 8, 2009 17:56:20 GMT -6
I'm not exactly sure what would make you guys think she would want the little shithead in her custody all the time. Could you imagine how horrible of a life that would be? Trying to watch over some little bastard who cares about nothing and being solely responsible for his inevitable life as a f**k up. Just sayin'. I'm not suggesting mom take over. I'm suggesting shipping the kid to military school or to Gitmo or wherever. Scare the Bejeezus out of him and scare him straight What makes you think I want to deal with him? I'd suggest throwing a bag over his head, driving to the nearest bridge and threatening to throw him over the side before I get the pleasure of meeting him.
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Post by poncho72 on Nov 2, 2009 21:00:01 GMT -6
UPDATE!
This asshole and his shithead boy have since moved in the past month, the house was foreclosed on and they had to go, so they and their piece of shit dog are out of the neighborhood!
Last week I got a phone call from a lawyer representing the boys mother, apparently she is seeking full custody, anyway he asked me several questions about the problems I'd had with the boy and wanted to know what kind of parent I thought the father was. Well, tonight I got served papers to appear in court on Wednesday to give testimony.
I'm not the only one, my neighbor from across the street got served as well. Don't know how many of us will be there. I'm thinking about having a little tailgate outside the courthouse that morning! Should be interesting, never had to testify before. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Nov 6, 2009 18:04:09 GMT -6
UPDATE! This asshole and his shithead boy have since moved in the past month, the house was foreclosed on and they had to go, so they and their piece of shit dog are out of the neighborhood! Last week I got a phone call from a lawyer representing the boys mother, apparently she is seeking full custody, anyway he asked me several questions about the problems I'd had with the boy and wanted to know what kind of parent I thought the father was. Well, tonight I got served papers to appear in court on Wednesday to give testimony. I'm not the only one, my neighbor from across the street got served as well. Don't know how many of us will be there. I'm thinking about having a little tailgate outside the courthouse that morning! Should be interesting, never had to testify before. I'll let you guys know how it goes. LMFAO!!! I like the tailgate idea. I'm thinking some fucktard deadbeat dad is FFFFUUUUCCCCKKKKEEEEDDDD!!
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