WWII IN HD

[twine]

Just wondering if any of you other dudes have been watching this show at all. If not, I would highly reccomend checking it out. The pure violence and brutality that took place during WWII is really mindblowing and this is probably the best documentary I have watched on the subject.

I didn't even realize they had color film at that time and suprisingly the cinematography is pretty good considering there were bullets flying around everywhere and the cameras they were using were probably not the smallest (especially by today's standards).

[thunderhawk]

Fuck! I was going to watch this. When is it on? History channel, right?

My wife's grandfather crash landed a plane in Burma and had to sneak out and cross a raging river. At night. Because the Rising Sun crew was hunting for him during the day. He heard them slaughter some of his comrades.

My great uncle covered a grenade to save his buddies. There's a street named after him in a town in France.

Brutal indeed.

[Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith)]

Channel and time??

[twine]

It's on all week from 6 to 10. The 6 o'clock hour and 9 o'clock hour are replays, 7 to 9 is new stuff, I think.

[NOTTHOR]

I watched two hours of this last night and thought it was probably the best two hours of TV I've ever seen. The dudes who put that together deserve some serious awards. The digital remastering and HD conversion looks absolutely fantastic. Before anyone can become POTUS in the future, they should be forced to watch that whole series so they understand the power they wield.

[thunderhawk]

Nov 20, 2009 8:45:44 GMT -6 NOTTHOR said:

I watched two hours of this last night and thought it was probably the best two hours of TV I've ever seen. The dudes who put that together deserve some serious awards. The digital remastering and HD conversion looks absolutely fantastic. Before anyone can become POTUS in the future, they should be forced to watch that whole series so they understand the power they wield.

No shit. War has real consequences unlike many other "policy" decisions. It's playing God.

[NOTTHOR]

The unfortunate thing is my wife won't watch stuff like that and she has been adequately brainwashed by the Japanese school system to think her side was the victim and was just and moral in its actions. Those Okinawans who met the American forces when they got to the island sure didn't look like they had been treated well by their Japanese overlords and the ones who were unfortunately killed by US troops as they escaped the Japanese control under cover of darkness probably didn't think too highly of the Japanese, either.

When you see the HD footage from Europe, it makes the end of Nile's Heisman speech hit even harder and demonstrates the true greatness of the greatest generation.

"Finally, if you will permit me, I'd like to make a comment which in my mind, is indicative, perhaps, of the greater significance of football and sports emphasis in general in this country, and that is, I thank God I was warring on the gridirons of the Midwest and not on the battlefields of Europe. I can speak confidently and positively that the players of this country would much more, much rather, struggle and fight to win the Heisman award than the Croix de Guerre."

[twine]

Nov 20, 2009 11:36:43 GMT -6 NOTTHOR said:

The unfortunate thing is my wife won't watch stuff like that and she has been adequately brainwashed by the Japanese school system to think her side was the victim and was just and moral in its actions. Those Okinawans who met the American forces when they got to the island sure didn't look like they had been treated well by their Japanese overlords and the ones who were unfortunately killed by US troops as they escaped the Japanese control under cover of darkness probably didn't think too highly of the Japanese, either.

When you see the HD footage from Europe, it makes the end of Nile's Heisman speech hit even harder and demonstrates the true greatness of the greatest generation.

"Finally, if you will permit me, I'd like to make a comment which in my mind, is indicative, perhaps, of the greater significance of football and sports emphasis in general in this country, and that is, I thank God I was warring on the gridirons of the Midwest and not on the battlefields of Europe. I can speak confidently and positively that the players of this country would much more, much rather, struggle and fight to win the Heisman award than the Croix de Guerre."

It would be really interesting to see what kind of spin a Japanese media company would put on the same documentary.

I though one part that really made it seem as if they were brainwashed was when the Americans took the Pininou Island (sp?) and they were expecting about 8000 more civilians to be around and they were giving food and water to the ones who did survive. Then later, they found these other civilians who had commited a mass suicide, some families even hugged eachother and had a grenade between their chests and pulled the pin so they could die together. This was all done in honor of the Emperor, how fucked up is that?

Not to mention when the other Japs were sent on a Bonzai mission with bayonets and swords against the Americans who were armed with assault rifles and artillery shells.

Kamakazi pilots too, I'm sure the Emperor really gave a shit about them and their families.

I think your wife is in denial more than anything, no offense. The Japanese were too stupid to realize that soldiers can be used more than once to fight battles.

It really is a great show though, in my opinion it trumps all of the great war movies made by Hollywood.

[thejesus]

Nov 20, 2009 12:28:56 GMT -6 twine said:

Nov 20, 2009 11:36:43 GMT -6 NOTTHOR said:

The unfortunate thing is my wife won't watch stuff like that and she has been adequately brainwashed by the Japanese school system to think her side was the victim and was just and moral in its actions. Those Okinawans who met the American forces when they got to the island sure didn't look like they had been treated well by their Japanese overlords and the ones who were unfortunately killed by US troops as they escaped the Japanese control under cover of darkness probably didn't think too highly of the Japanese, either.

When you see the HD footage from Europe, it makes the end of Nile's Heisman speech hit even harder and demonstrates the true greatness of the greatest generation.

"Finally, if you will permit me, I'd like to make a comment which in my mind, is indicative, perhaps, of the greater significance of football and sports emphasis in general in this country, and that is, I thank God I was warring on the gridirons of the Midwest and not on the battlefields of Europe. I can speak confidently and positively that the players of this country would much more, much rather, struggle and fight to win the Heisman award than the Croix de Guerre."

It would be really interesting to see what kind of spin a Japanese media company would put on the same documentary.

I though one part that really made it seem as if they were brainwashed was when the Americans took the Pininou Island (sp?) and they were expecting about 8000 more civilians to be around and they were giving food and water to the ones who did survive. Then later, they found these other civilians who had commited a mass suicide, some families even hugged eachother and had a grenade between their chests and pulled the pin so they could die together. This was all done in honor of the Emperor, how fucked up is that?

Not to mention when the other Japs were sent on a Bonzai mission with bayonets and swords against the Americans who were armed with assault rifles and artillery shells.

Kamakazi pilots too, I'm sure the Emperor really gave a shit about them and their families.

I think your wife is in denial more than anything, no offense. The Japanese were too stupid to realize that soldiers can be used more than once to fight battles.

It really is a great show though, in my opinion it trumps all of the great war movies made by Hollywood.

It’s funny that you would say the Japanese were brainwashed, yet not acknowledge the same for Americans. American troops are subjected to massive amounts of brainwashing.

“Kamakazi pilots too, I'm sure the Emperor really gave a shit about them and their families.” Do you think the POTUS and military brass really gave/give a shit about our troops and their families? Fuck no they didn’t/don’t. The troops are just cattle to these people. It’s pretty sick and twisted how apathetically our leaders send young men and women off to foreign countries to kill and be killed in horrific manners.

I haven’t seen this documentary, but I can guarantee there is American “Spin” on it. I imagine the Japanese take on it would have an equal amount of “Spin”.

I’ll have to check this out. I’d like to see what kind of “Spin” this series puts on the topic of our country dropping two nuclear bombs on two different cities, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

It’s no wonder the rest of the world despises America.


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[twine]

Nov 23, 2009 9:59:06 GMT -6 thejesus said:

Nov 20, 2009 12:28:56 GMT -6 twine said:

It would be really interesting to see what kind of spin a Japanese media company would put on the same documentary.

I though one part that really made it seem as if they were brainwashed was when the Americans took the Pininou Island (sp?) and they were expecting about 8000 more civilians to be around and they were giving food and water to the ones who did survive. Then later, they found these other civilians who had commited a mass suicide, some families even hugged eachother and had a grenade between their chests and pulled the pin so they could die together. This was all done in honor of the Emperor, how fucked up is that?

Not to mention when the other Japs were sent on a Bonzai mission with bayonets and swords against the Americans who were armed with assault rifles and artillery shells.

Kamakazi pilots too, I'm sure the Emperor really gave a shit about them and their families.

I think your wife is in denial more than anything, no offense. The Japanese were too stupid to realize that soldiers can be used more than once to fight battles.

It really is a great show though, in my opinion it trumps all of the great war movies made by Hollywood.

It’s funny that you would say the Japanese were brainwashed, yet not acknowledge the same for Americans. American troops are subjected to massive amounts of brainwashing.

“Kamakazi pilots too, I'm sure the Emperor really gave a shit about them and their families.” Do you think the POTUS and military brass really gave/give a shit about our troops and their families? Fuck no they didn’t/don’t. The troops are just cattle to these people. It’s pretty sick and twisted how apathetically our leaders send young men and women off to foreign countries to kill and be killed in horrific manners.

I haven’t seen this documentary, but I can guarantee there is American “Spin” on it. I imagine the Japanese take on it would have an equal amount of “Spin”.

I’ll have to check this out. I’d like to see what kind of “Spin” this series puts on the topic of our country dropping two nuclear bombs on two different cities, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

It’s no wonder the rest of the world despises America.


<RANT>

Every country has a lot of propoganda, especially during war time. I know that we used a lot of propoganda to build support for our involvement with the war and I wasn't denying that at all, I'm just saying it would be interesting to see it from the Japanese point of view. I was by no means belittling Japanese people. I was just thinking it would be interesting to see how they got such dedicated support from their people and see what their national tone was at that time.