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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 19, 2010 11:54:50 GMT -6
www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-18-2010/mass-backwardsOn the whole I agree with the Democrats on more of the important issues, compared to the Republicans (especially these Party of Palin fucknuts), although I find both parties relentlessly corrupted and unoriginal and completely impotent to address the huge structural challenges facing this nation and world. The Republicans are full of shit and unfazed by things like facts, but my God...the Democrats are the most flaccid losers I've ever seen. They only win when the other side sucks ass even when they have empirical evidence on their side. I'd be entertained by the spectacle, frankly, if it didn't jeaopardize my daughter's future. The American people can't be let off the hook either. They've allowed their politicians to roam with nary a hint of accountability. They've let their schools and health care "system" get fucking PWN3D by the rest of the industrialized world, fucking us competitively, whilst locked into the Biggest Loser (fitting) and all other manner of Bread and Circus bullshit. Now I've got a friend who's running for Congress as a Republican. I told him I'd consider voting for him (I'm not stupid, connections matter) if he could tell me how he expects to turn this economy around and get health care costs under control and stop our schools from sucking. You know what his answer for America's paralytic problems was? Do I even need to say it? Tax cuts and tax credits. That's it. That's the solution for everything. My God. We are so fucked. No vision. No imagination. No courage. I've decided that this "democracy" is a fucking piece of shit. We just need some panels of experts to implement some fucking plans and be done with it. As far as my own political preferences, I've just closed the circle down to this: Fuck with my family, I destroy you. Stay out of our way, we can get along. /Rant
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Jan 19, 2010 16:53:54 GMT -6
Jon Stewart should run for president. I don't know that I would vote for him, just because I don't know enough about him - but he makes efficacious points.
Did anyone see him make Mad Money's Cramer quiver in his seat? THAT was entertainment.
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Post by twine on Jan 19, 2010 18:06:20 GMT -6
I've pretty much given up on caring about politics. It seems like a waste of mental energy.
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Post by thejesus on Jan 20, 2010 7:50:18 GMT -6
I've pretty much given up on caring about politics. It seems like a waste of mental energy. I hear ya. Especially if you believe/consider, as I do, that both parties are ultimately controlled by the same people. Combined with the media, it is the world's greatest puppet show designed to give the illusion that we are free, when if fact we are far from it. |
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Post by twine on Jan 20, 2010 9:56:29 GMT -6
I've pretty much given up on caring about politics. It seems like a waste of mental energy. I hear ya. Especially if you believe/consider, as I do, that both parties are ultimately controlled by the same people. Combined with the media, it is the world's greatest puppet show designed to give the illusion that we are free, when if fact we are far from it. I wouldn't necessarily say we aren't free, but I do agree it's all a big puppet show. It seems more and more like Obama's promise of hope and change was a bunch of horse shit. He's in "their" hands from what I can tell. Not really suprised though, the only way things would ever change is if there was some sort of revolution but things aren't bad enough to warrant that happening. Screwing over the public works best when done gradually, kind of like boiling a frog. If you throw a frog into boiling hot water it will react, if you put the frog in room temperature water and heat it up slowly it won't notice its getting killed because it isn't that smart. I think Glenn Beck is using this analogy now. The thing that bothers me most about him is that he gets the people riled up about what's going on, which isn't a bad thing but he does it for so many of the wrong reasons and panders to stupidity and redneck mob mentality. |
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Post by NotMyKid on Jan 20, 2010 11:30:39 GMT -6
Beck=Olbermann
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Post by thejesus on Jan 20, 2010 14:53:17 GMT -6
I hear ya. Especially if you believe/consider, as I do, that both parties are ultimately controlled by the same people. Combined with the media, it is the world's greatest puppet show designed to give the illusion that we are free, when if fact we are far from it. Screwing over the public works best when done gradually, kind of like boiling a frog. If you throw a frog into boiling hot water it will react, if you put the frog in room temperature water and heat it up slowly it won't notice its getting killed because it isn't that smart. I know you aren't a David Icke fan, but he terms what you are referring to as the "Totalitarian Tip-Toe". Small individual steps which, when looked at by themselves seem innocent enough, lead to a preplanned outcome that is detrimental to the people. The European Union is an example of this. The EU is a tiptoe; so are ideas like the "Amero" (which will be here before you think), and microchips in pets (and already being suggested and pursued to assist with the homeless problem). All small tip toes with a common goal towards a large leap in government control. One world government (controlled by the banking elite), micro-chipped population, one world (cashless) currency, one world army, etc. But I digress ....... lol  |
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Post by twine on Jan 20, 2010 15:05:51 GMT -6
I just read that frogs actually will jump out of hot water even if you heat it gradually. That old saying is bullshit!
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 20, 2010 16:00:42 GMT -6
Actually it's more like O'Reilly=Olbermann. Beck is fucking crazy. |
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 20, 2010 16:05:46 GMT -6
Screwing over the public works best when done gradually, kind of like boiling a frog. If you throw a frog into boiling hot water it will react, if you put the frog in room temperature water and heat it up slowly it won't notice its getting killed because it isn't that smart. I know you aren't a David Icke fan, but he terms what you are referring to as the "Totalitarian Tip-Toe". Small individual steps which, when looked at by themselves seem innocent enough, lead to a preplanned outcome that is detrimental to the people. The European Union is an example of this. The EU is a tiptoe; so are ideas like the "Amero" (which will be here before you think), and microchips in pets (and already being suggested and pursued to assist with the homeless problem). All small tip toes with a common goal towards a large leap in government control. One world government (controlled by the banking elite), micro-chipped population, one world (cashless) currency, one world army, etc. But I digress ....... lol First off, the banking elite already controls the world, at least financially. So they control us. The EU has its drawbacks, yes, but it has created an economic behemoth that has made Europe way more relevant and influential than it used to be. As far as this Brave New World micro-control of individuals, I just don't see the payoff for governments in it. I think as long as the banking elite and the governments they own control the money, they don't give a shit what people do as long as it doesn't cost them financially. They've rigged the system and they are happy to let it flow. Of course the seven deadly sins are deadly for a reason, and this fucking greed cannot go on indefinitely. |
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Post by NotMyKid on Jan 21, 2010 8:41:07 GMT -6
Actually it's more like O'Reilly=Olbermann. Beck is fucking crazy. I think Olbermann is more Beck then O'Reilly, if O'Reilly said what Keith did the other night about a Dem candidate the left would be trying to burn down Fox News. |
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 21, 2010 10:32:15 GMT -6
Actually it's more like O'Reilly=Olbermann. Beck is fucking crazy. I think Olbermann is more Beck then O'Reilly, if O'Reilly said what Keith did the other night about a Dem candidate the left would be trying to burn down Fox News. Frankly the most I've seen of Olbermann over the past couple of years is his NBC Football Night in America gig. Youtube clips is pretty much all I see of these people anymore. I'm fed up with all of it. These politicians are fucking clowns and the parties they represent are whorehouses. George Washington was correct: Political parties and the attendant paralyzing partisanship are toxic to this republic. Anyone here really think these parties put national interests over partisan interests? Yeah, me neither. Hey, wait until you have those kids...you'll be humming Wonder Pets and Dora tunes and you'll forget anything else is even on TV. Except for a few exceptions...like 24 and Man v. Wild in my case. |
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Post by twine on Jan 21, 2010 10:55:10 GMT -6
I see that limits on corporate financing for campaigns has been lifted, which is definately not in the best interest of the people. Also, the Democrats want to lift the debt ceiling by another 1.9 trillion dollars. What in the fuck are they thinking?
Why don't we just give the entire poplulation unlimited credit to save the economy? /s
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 21, 2010 11:57:24 GMT -6
If you weren't corporate slaves before, you are now. All of you, even if you don't work for corporations. Enjoy your unlubed assfucking. Some of you will have friends and family literally suffer and die because of these SCOTUS, um, activist judges. Remember who's to blame when it happens. (Simple example: Corporations spend millions to get politicians elected who then pass legislation gutting safety standards which leads to an accident killing your wife. Oh, you can't sue either. The corporate politicians passed tort reform. Sorry. Hope the funeral was nice. She'll be missed.)
As far as debt ceilings go, they have no choice (unless they pass spending cuts. Like I said, they have no choice.) The Republicans (you remember them...unpaid wars and unfinanced Medicare Part D pharma giveaway?) would have to raise the debt ceiling too if they were in the majority. In fact they did when they were in charge.
You might be on to something though. As long as the government is throwing money around, fuck Wall Street and the international finance cartel. Those vampires don't deserve any more lucre. They just use it to pay sociopaths and deviants to come up with ever more complex scams. But working people who haven't seen their incomes increase for a fucking decade while expenses have jacked up could use some bank. So if money must be thrown around, fuck it, throw it at us working folk. We'll actually use it to buy shit. Which will stimulate demand. Which will increase production. Which will...hey, I like where this is going...which will catalyze job creation.
...I was being sarcastic but holy fuck it might not be such a bad idea. And it doesn't even require Shovel Readiness(TM)!!!
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 21, 2010 21:39:10 GMT -6
To wit... "Much indeed to be regretted, party disputes are now carried to such a length, and truth is so enveloped in mist and false representation, that it is extremely difficult to know through what channel to seek it. This difficulty to one, who is of no party, and whose sole wish is to pursue with undeviating steps a path which would lead this country to respectability, wealth, and happiness, is exceedingly to be lamented. But such, for wise purposes, it is presumed, is the turbulence of human passions in party disputes, when victory more than truth is the palm contended for," - George Washington, in a letter to Timothy Pickering, July 27, 1795. andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/America is fucked, a collapsing empire shattered by political bloodsport and the complete dissolution of shared purpose, and I can do nothing to stop it. Nothing. I am a student of history. I know how this movie ends. I'd suggest you all arm yourselves. |
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Post by lpcalihawk on Jan 22, 2010 8:50:43 GMT -6
To wit... "Much indeed to be regretted, party disputes are now carried to such a length, and truth is so enveloped in mist and false representation, that it is extremely difficult to know through what channel to seek it. This difficulty to one, who is of no party, and whose sole wish is to pursue with undeviating steps a path which would lead this country to respectability, wealth, and happiness, is exceedingly to be lamented. But such, for wise purposes, it is presumed, is the turbulence of human passions in party disputes, when victory more than truth is the palm contended for," - George Washington, in a letter to Timothy Pickering, July 27, 1795. andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/America is fucked, a collapsing empire shattered by political bloodsport and the complete dissolution of shared purpose, and I can do nothing to stop it. Nothing. I am a student of history. I know how this movie ends. I'd suggest you all arm yourselves. I'm sawing off my 12-gauge shotgun today. Viva la revolucion!!!!!! |
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Post by The Bluzmn on Jan 26, 2010 6:50:10 GMT -6
This is more eloquent than I (watch it all, I think you will like it): For the record, Beck should be locked away in a straight jacket on heavy medication. |
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Post by HawksStock on Jan 26, 2010 18:29:41 GMT -6
WOW, I come back and see the lights turning on.
I said all along that Obama was the emporer with no clothes.
The spoon full of sugar to make the medicine go down, drink it baby, the bilderburg group has lots of NyQuil for all of us.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 27, 2010 12:48:41 GMT -6
WOW, I come back and see the lights turning on. I said all along that Obama was the emporer with no clothes. The spoon full of sugar to make the medicine go down, drink it baby, the bilderburg group has lots of NyQuil for all of us. I don't think many of us here ever doubted that the politicians are pawns of the powerful. These emperors have been buck naked for decades. |
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Post by thejesus on Feb 4, 2010 15:03:19 GMT -6
WOW, I come back and see the lights turning on. I said all along that Obama was the emporer with no clothes. The spoon full of sugar to make the medicine go down, drink it baby, the bilderburg group has lots of NyQuil for all of us. Been a while hawksstock .... It's funny, I used to think you were borderline crazy when you would ramble about the Rothchilds, Rockafellers, Bankers in General, Bilderburg Group, etc. But you did spark my interest in researching the subject. I have to admit, I no longer think you are crazy dude. There is some seriously fucked up shit happening to the general public. What's fucked up is that is entirely possible that the rabbit hole goes much deeper then just the banking industry. Either way, thank you for sparking my interest in the subject. I've been on a 6 month binder of reading all kinds of interesting material. Amazon thanks you as well, for I have become a pretty damn good customer.  |
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