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Post by NotMyKid on Dec 8, 2010 9:41:54 GMT -6
Thunder, BTR, Bluz (fuck there are a lot of lawyers on this board ;D) Am I way off in thinking that DJK will be able to plea down on almost all of his charges and even get some sort of deal if he gives full details on his drug dealing roommate? At least that's what I get from the charges pending on the two. You are DJK's lawyer what do you tell him at your first meeting, what route do you go? ? I have seen and read enough shitty DJK threads so I thought I would try and take this one a different route.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Dec 8, 2010 9:51:20 GMT -6
Better get advice to him quick.....he's in court today
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Post by NotMyKid on Dec 8, 2010 10:53:26 GMT -6
Better get advice to him quick.....he's in court today I would guess that is just his initial appearance when they read charges, set next court date, and set bail. At least I think.
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Post by hawkeyescott on Dec 8, 2010 11:03:58 GMT -6
If I'm his lawyer the first thing I ask is why the fuck did you admit to everything in the first place, now the State/County has you by the balls.
His only hope is to plea down and "rat" out his roommate at this point I would guess. Otherwise when he admitted to everything why would the State/County offer a plea when they can throw the hammer down as they have the evidence to get a conviction on all charges.
By the way I'm not a lawyer either.
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Post by Solar Stud on Dec 8, 2010 11:33:10 GMT -6
30K students in Iowa City and he has the "misfortune" to end up as a roommate with a known/previously convicted drug dealer?
That's just plain bad luck
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 8, 2010 11:57:11 GMT -6
gotta get leonbt on here - he's the defense lawyer. He'll plead down no matter what just so the state doesn't have to give him a trial, but seriously, if we're gonna run a big time football program, we have to expect this shit and prepare kids by telling them DO NOT FUCKING TELL THE PIGS SHIT.
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Post by twine on Dec 8, 2010 11:58:44 GMT -6
30K students in Iowa City and he has the "misfortune" to end up as a roommate with a known/previously convicted drug dealer? That's just plain bad luck You are being sarcastic, right? I honestly can't tell.
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Post by thunderhawk on Dec 8, 2010 20:53:52 GMT -6
gotta get leonbt on here - he's the defense lawyer. He'll plead down no matter what just so the state doesn't have to give him a trial, but seriously, if we're gonna run a big time football program, we have to expect this shit and prepare kids by telling them DO NOT FUCKING TELL THE PIGS SHIT. Goddamn no shit. "I'm going to have to consult my attorney" is the correct answer to a police interrogation. He's fucked his bargaining position big time by already confessing and submitting to a drug test. He's so, so very fucked. The prosecutor doesn't have to prove hardly anything because the Deej handed them all the evidence. Maybe they'll plead down if he rats out that shitmunching douchefuck he lives with, but that's about all the leverage this dipshit has left himself. He best pray for a lenient judge.
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Post by The Bluzmn on Dec 8, 2010 21:53:14 GMT -6
Cosign.
Everybody repeat after me......"I WANT TO SPEAK WITH AN ATTORNEY."
Know these words. Live by these words. When dealing with LEO, it is the ONLY correct response.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 8, 2010 22:14:30 GMT -6
spartacus maximus, who used to post on here occassionally, punched some dude straight in the grill at his wedding for talking shit about his new bride. The fuzz showed up and cornered a drunken spartacus maximus, who refused to answer their questions, saying things like "is this a custodial interrogation - if it is, I want to speak to my attorney, if it is not, I wish to leave because I have nothing further to discuss with you." The cops were basically like "cut the shit pal" and he was like "I ain't saying anything that can be used in court without an attorney present." The CO then told him, and announced to everyone who was watching, that he could have two minutes to tell the cops what happened off the record and that nothing would be used against him in court or put in a police report, so he told the cops the dude was talking shit about his wife and he punched him in the face - cops said, "thanks, we just needed to make sure because we can't leave without an answer to dispatch that everything's under control, we kicked that asshole out of here and if he comes back call us and we'll arrest him for trespassing, have a nice night and congrats on the wedding."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 23:07:02 GMT -6
spartacus maximus, who used to post on here occassionally, punched some dude straight in the grill at his wedding for talking shit about his new bride. The fuzz showed up and cornered a drunken spartacus maximus, who refused to answer their questions, saying things like "is this a custodial interrogation - if it is, I want to speak to my attorney, if it is not, I wish to leave because I have nothing further to discuss with you." The cops were basically like "cut the shit pal" and he was like "I ain't saying anything that can be used in court without an attorney present." The CO then told him, and announced to everyone who was watching, that he could have two minutes to tell the cops what happened off the record and that nothing would be used against him in court or put in a police report, so he told the cops the dude was talking shit about his wife and he punched him in the face - cops said, "thanks, we just needed to make sure because we can't leave without an answer to dispatch that everything's under control, we kicked that asshole out of here and if he comes back call us and we'll arrest him for trespassing, have a nice night and congrats on the wedding." That's a cute story. I wouldn't have guessed that you've been to a 'wedding' in Arkansas. DJK's counselor is fucked. For all the reasons already listed. Kid did everything wrong. Any improvement on a state-mandated sentence will be a win. Stupid is as #15 did.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 8, 2010 23:19:29 GMT -6
Not Parkansas buddy - Detroit. And some dude siphoned the gas out of his Caddy in the parking garage. What a fucking shithole of a town that is.
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Post by thunderhawk on Dec 9, 2010 13:52:16 GMT -6
spartacus maximus, who used to post on here occassionally, punched some dude straight in the grill at his wedding for talking shit about his new bride. The fuzz showed up and cornered a drunken spartacus maximus, who refused to answer their questions, saying things like "is this a custodial interrogation - if it is, I want to speak to my attorney, if it is not, I wish to leave because I have nothing further to discuss with you." The cops were basically like "cut the shit pal" and he was like "I ain't saying anything that can be used in court without an attorney present." The CO then told him, and announced to everyone who was watching, that he could have two minutes to tell the cops what happened off the record and that nothing would be used against him in court or put in a police report, so he told the cops the dude was talking shit about his wife and he punched him in the face - cops said, "thanks, we just needed to make sure because we can't leave without an answer to dispatch that everything's under control, we kicked that asshole out of here and if he comes back call us and we'll arrest him for trespassing, have a nice night and congrats on the wedding." Smart cop. "Mirandize me or leave me be" is basically the gist of what spartacus said. Good move. If they refuse to Mirandize you, they're treading on thin ice trying to detain you.
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Post by Master Blaster on Dec 9, 2010 17:13:11 GMT -6
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Post by Solar Stud on Dec 9, 2010 21:54:13 GMT -6
So Curtis...when you found the HN smoking dope onboard your carrier, did you flog him before or after he cried for a lawyer? Or did you bother even getting a JAG at all?
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Post by Master Blaster on Dec 10, 2010 13:11:02 GMT -6
I can neither confirm nor deny the use of "persuasive tactics" in the form of physical bodily harm. I'd also like to thank him for giving up his 53,000 dollar GI bill so I can go to school and get paid to look at coeds all the time.
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