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Post by lpcalihawk on Dec 29, 2010 14:18:38 GMT -6
Any thoughts on the NCAA's decision to not withhold Prior and his homies from the Sugar Bowl? I think they were leaving it up to Ohio State to come through and penalize these guys institutionally for the Sugar Bowl.....but guess what? Tressel's got the integrity of my dick after a fifth of Jameson's.
Overall, I don't have a big problem with these guys doing what they did....it was an obvious rules violation, but understandable to a point. They should have just waited until their eligibility was up before pawning all of their championship rings and apparel.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Dec 29, 2010 14:53:21 GMT -6
5 games is a joke.
Especially when the Heisman trophy winner had family members asking for colleges to have bidding wars.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 29, 2010 14:56:08 GMT -6
The NCAA is a fucking joke. An abso fucking lute joke. Cam Newton's old man took money and these O$U clowns broke the rules, but everyone is still kosher for the bowl games, lest we destroy the bowl cartel. But then a few years ago, there was a story about a kid who played for Air Force or Colorado or something whose old man was stationed in Iraq and could only get back for like a day if he forked out like 10 or 12 grand, so some do gooder message board guys like us start a fucking donation, get the god damned funds lined up and the NCAA and school hear about it and fucking sick the dogs on them. It is an incredibly fucked up system they have built that is designed to keep the money flowing at all costs and only actually enforce technical breaches at lower tier programs. Really, the only solution is to lobby Congress to back FB and men's BB out of Title IX and pay these fucking kids something for busting their asses and then issue an edict that if there are ANY shenanigans, your program is fucked, like 25 scholarships for half a decade fucked, AND that the greasy coach who lets that shit go on is fucked, as in suspended from coaching for some period of at least a year fucked so he can't shit on a program and then move onto another million dollar plus a year job somewhere else.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 29, 2010 15:00:38 GMT -6
And for the record, if a Hawk player's family was poor and they needed a few hundred or thousand bucks to get to IC for the games, they should god damned be able to get it from donations. Some poor kid should have every opportunity to go to the best school that will take him that he wants to attend and he shouldn't be locked out because his parents don't want him to go too far away because they can't afford to travel to watch him play, this is a god damned family affair.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Dec 30, 2010 10:44:37 GMT -6
Latest News
Publish date: Dec 29, 2010
NCAA statement on fairness of rules decisions
Several media and others recently concluded that very different situations involving student-athlete eligibility should be considered independent of their unique circumstances or interpreted with a "one size fits all" approach.
In particular, they are comparing recent decisions involving The Ohio State University and Auburn University (and others). Some have even suggested the NCAA plays favorites in these types of situations based in part or in whole on financial considerations.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
In relation to the decision last week involving rules violations with football student-athletes at Ohio State, several current student-athletes were interviewed as part of our fact-gathering process. They indicated they were not aware there was a violation and learned of the issue based on later rules education, which was confirmed by OSU through interviews and supporting documentation.
Inadequate rules education is often cited in student-athlete reinstatement and other waiver cases (such as inaccurate or misguided academic advising), but it is just one of many factors considered in these types of situations.
As for the broader issue of a student escaping penalties based on their lack of knowledge, there also have been reports in the media that the recent ruling related to Cam Newton's eligibility will encourage parents or third-parties to solicit benefits or money during the recruiting process while keeping the student in the dark as to their activities.
Again, this strays from the truth.
While efforts are being championed by NCAA President Mark Emmert to further clarify and strengthen recruiting and amateurism rules when benefits or money are solicited (but not received), current NCAA rules would be violated and students declared ineligible should a parent or third party receive benefits or money, regardless of the student's knowledge.
Put simply, had Cam Newton's father or a third party actually received money or benefits for his recruitment, Cam Newton would have been declared ineligible regardless of his lack of knowledge.
There have been questions as well since last week related to the withholding policy and student-athlete reinstatement for NCAA championships and bowl games. This policy was developed and implemented by the Division I membership, specifically the Division I Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement and approved by the Division I Academics/Eligibility/Compliance Cabinet, in 2004. It allows for suspending a reinstatement condition in specific instances involving NCAA championships or bowl games. It recognizes the unique opportunity these events provide at the end of a season, and they are evaluated differently from a withholding perspective for student-athlete reinstatement. In the Ohio State situation, the facts are consistent with the established policy.
Finally, the notion that the NCAA is selective with its eligibility decisions and rules enforcement is another myth with no basis in fact. Money is not a motivator or factor as to why one school would get a particular decision versus another. Any insinuation that revenue from bowl games in particular would influence NCAA decisions is absurd, because schools and conferences receive that revenue, not the NCAA.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 30, 2010 11:05:03 GMT -6
Bull fucking shit. The Reggie Bush shit took years to fucking sort out and the final facts were exactly as reported on Yahoo. I know it was a long fucking time ago, but SMU was kind of an upstart football program when it got the death penalty, there is no fucking way Texas, A&M or Oklahoma would have gotten the death penalty for that shit, they all fucking did it.
The NCAA comes down to protecting the upper crust programs because they drive the whole fucking money machine via TV ratings, ticket sales and hotel rooms at bowls. If Butler basketball so much as farts in the wrong direction, those fuckers are dead, but fucking Calipari and Kensucky can pay fucking dudes, give fake jobs to parents and acquaintances of ballplayers, look the other way when a McDonalds All-American from the hood is driving around a $60k 'Slade, etc. without raising any attention whatsoever.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Dec 30, 2010 11:50:01 GMT -6
Bull fucking shit. The Reggie Bush shit took years to fucking sort out and the final facts were exactly as reported on Yahoo. I know it was a long fucking time ago, but SMU was kind of an upstart football program when it got the death penalty, there is no fucking way Texas, A&M or Oklahoma would have gotten the death penalty for that shit, they all fucking did it. The NCAA comes down to protecting the upper crust programs because they drive the whole fucking money machine via TV ratings, ticket sales and hotel rooms at bowls. If Butler basketball so much as farts in the wrong direction, those fuckers are dead, but fucking Calipari and Kensucky can pay fucking dudes, give fake jobs to parents and acquaintances of ballplayers, look the other way when a McDonalds All-American from the hood is driving around a $60k 'Slade, etc. without raising any attention whatsoever. Not necessarily disagreeing with you BTR....just found that release on the NCAA website and thought you might be interested in their "official" statement. I would expect to see Calimari get a game suspension in the near future. Izzo already got hit (granted it was against Prairie View A/M). Men's Basketball coaches are currently being targeted by NCAA Enforcement and will bear the brunt of public reprimand and penalties. I don't believe the NCAA is making as much money on college football with the current BCS cartel as it does with college basketball. If any program is going to be protected, it will be the big-time college basketball programs (see UNC, Duke, etc.) |
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Post by Plez Azkins on Dec 30, 2010 12:49:10 GMT -6
Case in point about basketball: Michael Jordan can pick up a recruit at the airport, but Ashton Kutcher can't meet a basketball recruit at an Iowa football game. Pretty fucking stupid.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Dec 30, 2010 13:00:48 GMT -6
Case in point about basketball: Michael Jordan can pick up a recruit at the airport, but Ashton Kutcher can't meet a basketball recruit at an Iowa football game. Pretty fucking stupid. Completely agree with you on that one, Plez. UNC is working with a different set of rules. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Dec 30, 2010 13:11:28 GMT -6
Case in point about basketball: Michael Jordan can pick up a recruit at the airport, but Ashton Kutcher can't meet a basketball recruit at an Iowa football game. Pretty fucking stupid. Completely agree with you on that one, Plez. UNC is working with a different set of rules. As is Michigan State. Magic Johnson recruited heavily for them back when they had those sick teams with Cleaves and shit. |
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Post by lpcalihawk on Jan 3, 2011 8:49:55 GMT -6
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