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Sept 26, 2014 10:17:50 GMT -6
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Post by Ginger on Sept 26, 2014 10:17:50 GMT -6
srs baseball discussion is srs Sorry, I like baseball. And, it is a good discussion. I see both sides. I hope Derp isn't offended. By the way, if Showalter had the pitcher walk Jeter in that situation, twitter shuts down, Yankee Stadium implodes, and Showalter doesn't make it out of there alive. Hoffa derp will be fine. He sounds crabby. Maybe having a bad hair day? Out of dippity-do.
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Post by #70 on Sept 26, 2014 10:25:16 GMT -6
It doesn't matter if he's 0-50 you don't have him hit. McCann is going to hit irregardless if Jeter gets on or not. Tie game, One out, runner on second, you absolutely walk the batter to create a force out at every base but home, but more importantly to set up a double play to get your ass out of the inning. Jeter's run means nothing the only guy that matters is the guy standing on 2nd. I don't give a shit what anybody says that is about as easy a baseball decision as it comes. And I don't give a shit who is coming up to the plate next you walk that guy when in that situation. Well, if you think they pitched to Jeter to give him a chance for the storybook ending, I don't see it. The numbers and splits say pitch to the righty or walk Jeter and bring in Britton to pitch to McCann/Tex. Why do you think Girardi had Garnder sacrifice bunt the runner to 2nd? Because he knew they would pitch to Jeter. Unless it's Miggy or Trout, no manager walks the righty (Jeter) with a righty on the mound to get to the lefty (McCann) unless a lefty is up in the bullpen. It just doesn't happen. Was Britton warming?
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Post by egadsto on Sept 26, 2014 10:26:23 GMT -6
Well, if you think they pitched to Jeter to give him a chance for the storybook ending, I don't see it. The numbers and splits say pitch to the righty or walk Jeter and bring in Britton to pitch to McCann/Tex. Why do you think Girardi had Garnder sacrifice bunt the runner to 2nd? Because he knew they would pitch to Jeter. Unless it's Miggy or Trout, no manager walks the righty (Jeter) with a righty on the mound to get to the lefty (McCann) unless a lefty is up in the bullpen. It just doesn't happen. Was Britton warming? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. That would change the scenario for me. However, so many managers won't bring in their closer unless they have the lead. It's dumb.
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Post by #70 on Sept 26, 2014 10:30:09 GMT -6
I don't think so, but I could be wrong. That would change the scenario for me. However, so many managers won't bring in their closer unless they have the lead. It's dumb. There are a shit ton of shitty managers out there. I mean like over half the league has shitty managers. The way they deal with relievers and starters and pitch counts are utterly ridiculous at times. I'd consider Ron Washington mentally handicapped.
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Post by NotMyKid on Sept 26, 2014 10:41:43 GMT -6
srs baseball discussion is srs Sorry, I like baseball. And, it is a good discussion. I see both sides. I hope Derp isn't offended. By the way, if Showalter had the pitcher walk Jeter in that situation, twitter shuts down, Yankee Stadium implodes, and Showalter doesn't make it out of there alive. LOL, no not at all. I am just saying as a non "bow to everything that Jeter does" guy he should be walked in that situation. Even some Yankee fans and writers have said the same thing. It was never going to happen in that situation for the reasons above but it should have if Showalter was actually trying to win the game. If Baltimore needed that win to win the East there is no doubt in my mind Showalter would have walked him. I get it, it gives him the chance to write the perfect ending to his story, which is cool for him and the insufferable douchey Yankee fans (not all but most). And there is no two sides. Any other player, any other game, any other team and they walk that guy for the reasons I already stated.
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Post by egadsto on Sept 26, 2014 10:50:20 GMT -6
Sorry, I like baseball. And, it is a good discussion. I see both sides. I hope Derp isn't offended. By the way, if Showalter had the pitcher walk Jeter in that situation, twitter shuts down, Yankee Stadium implodes, and Showalter doesn't make it out of there alive. LOL, no not at all. I am just saying as a non "bow to everything that Jeter does" guy he should be walked in that situation. Even some Yankee fans and writers have said the same thing. It was never going to happen in that situation for the reasons above but it should have if Showalter was actually trying to win the game. If Baltimore needed that win to win the East there is no doubt in my mind Showalter would have walked him. I get it, it gives him the chance to write the perfect ending to his story, which is cool for him and the insufferable douchey Yankee fans (not all but most). And there is no two sides. Any other player, any other game, any other team and they walk that guy for the reasons I already stated. Well, we will have to disagree. He hasn't been intentionally walked in 630 plate appearances this year and that would not have changed last night unless a left was coming in. I would wager any amount of money on that. Here's an article that discusses the 2 sides. nypost.com/2014/09/26/jeters-heroics-were-a-little-too-perfect/So we go to the bottom of the ninth, and Orioles manager Buck Showalter sends in end-of-the-bench righty Evan Meek. He was Baltimore’s sixth pitcher of the game, and Showalter correctly was saving his closer, Zach Britton, for a save situation. So even with the expanded September rosters, Meek was the best he could do.
Meek gave up a leadoff single to Jose Pirela (a guy wearing No. 67 — think about that for a second). Next, Brett Gardner bunted pinch-runner Richardson to second, which gave Showalter the opportunity to intentionally walk Jeter. That would be a logical next move in many circumstances. Jeter’s run meant nothing, and a walk would have set up a double play or at least a force play at any base.
Showalter declined to walk Jeter. There is a baseball reason for his decision. Brian McCann, red hot in September, was on deck, and Showalter was out of lefties. His plan likely was to try to get Jeter out, then walk McCann and go after the ice-cold Mark Teixeira.
Or perhaps Showalter simply did not want to deprive Jeter of his final moment (and maybe there’s not a manager in baseball who would have done that on this night).
So Showalter shaded second baseman Kelly Johnson close to the bag to try to keep the runner close, leaving a huge hole on the right side, where Jeter has spent his whole career slapping the ball. And then Meek threw “a cutter away,” the pitch you’d throw if you wanted the batter to hit a one hopper to the right side — something you’d do if you had your second baseman positioned there.
Ballgame over, Yankees win. Jeter goes out a hero and it’s all good, even for the Orioles, who lined up on their dugout fence to salute him.
The legend was given his chance, out of the respect he had earned over 20 seasons, and did what he was supposed to do with it.
Perfect.
2 Perfect!
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Post by #70 on Sept 26, 2014 11:11:34 GMT -6
Jeter is the queen of groundouts this year. The odds of him making an out are very good. Pitching to him isn't out of the question in that situation, at all.
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Post by NotMyKid on Sept 26, 2014 11:41:16 GMT -6
LOL, no not at all. I am just saying as a non "bow to everything that Jeter does" guy he should be walked in that situation. Even some Yankee fans and writers have said the same thing. It was never going to happen in that situation for the reasons above but it should have if Showalter was actually trying to win the game. If Baltimore needed that win to win the East there is no doubt in my mind Showalter would have walked him. I get it, it gives him the chance to write the perfect ending to his story, which is cool for him and the insufferable douchey Yankee fans (not all but most). And there is no two sides. Any other player, any other game, any other team and they walk that guy for the reasons I already stated. Well, we will have to disagree. He hasn't been intentionally walked in 630 plate appearances this year and that would not have changed last night unless a left was coming in. I would wager any amount of money on that. Here's an article that discusses the 2 sides. nypost.com/2014/09/26/jeters-heroics-were-a-little-too-perfect/So we go to the bottom of the ninth, and Orioles manager Buck Showalter sends in end-of-the-bench righty Evan Meek. He was Baltimore’s sixth pitcher of the game, and Showalter correctly was saving his closer, Zach Britton, for a save situation. So even with the expanded September rosters, Meek was the best he could do.
Meek gave up a leadoff single to Jose Pirela (a guy wearing No. 67 — think about that for a second). Next, Brett Gardner bunted pinch-runner Richardson to second, which gave Showalter the opportunity to intentionally walk Jeter. That would be a logical next move in many circumstances. Jeter’s run meant nothing, and a walk would have set up a double play or at least a force play at any base.
Showalter declined to walk Jeter. There is a baseball reason for his decision. Brian McCann, red hot in September, was on deck, and Showalter was out of lefties. His plan likely was to try to get Jeter out, then walk McCann and go after the ice-cold Mark Teixeira.
Or perhaps Showalter simply did not want to deprive Jeter of his final moment (and maybe there’s not a manager in baseball who would have done that on this night).
So Showalter shaded second baseman Kelly Johnson close to the bag to try to keep the runner close, leaving a huge hole on the right side, where Jeter has spent his whole career slapping the ball. And then Meek threw “a cutter away,” the pitch you’d throw if you wanted the batter to hit a one hopper to the right side — something you’d do if you had your second baseman positioned there.
Ballgame over, Yankees win. Jeter goes out a hero and it’s all good, even for the Orioles, who lined up on their dugout fence to salute him.
The legend was given his chance, out of the respect he had earned over 20 seasons, and did what he was supposed to do with it.
Perfect.
2 Perfect!You must have missed the line at the end of the story that I put in bold for you as well as the one above that talking about Showalter being the only guy that does that. Look belief what you want but that is a NY Post writer trying to keep the Yankee circle jerk readers happy.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Sept 26, 2014 12:09:27 GMT -6
I am unable to give any shits for baseball at any level. Y so grumpy? Ginger wanna know. I'm old, it goes with the teritory.
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Post by egadsto on Sept 26, 2014 12:22:56 GMT -6
Well, we will have to disagree. He hasn't been intentionally walked in 630 plate appearances this year and that would not have changed last night unless a left was coming in. I would wager any amount of money on that. Here's an article that discusses the 2 sides. nypost.com/2014/09/26/jeters-heroics-were-a-little-too-perfect/So we go to the bottom of the ninth, and Orioles manager Buck Showalter sends in end-of-the-bench righty Evan Meek. He was Baltimore’s sixth pitcher of the game, and Showalter correctly was saving his closer, Zach Britton, for a save situation. So even with the expanded September rosters, Meek was the best he could do.
Meek gave up a leadoff single to Jose Pirela (a guy wearing No. 67 — think about that for a second). Next, Brett Gardner bunted pinch-runner Richardson to second, which gave Showalter the opportunity to intentionally walk Jeter. That would be a logical next move in many circumstances. Jeter’s run meant nothing, and a walk would have set up a double play or at least a force play at any base.
Showalter declined to walk Jeter. There is a baseball reason for his decision. Brian McCann, red hot in September, was on deck, and Showalter was out of lefties. His plan likely was to try to get Jeter out, then walk McCann and go after the ice-cold Mark Teixeira.
Or perhaps Showalter simply did not want to deprive Jeter of his final moment (and maybe there’s not a manager in baseball who would have done that on this night).
So Showalter shaded second baseman Kelly Johnson close to the bag to try to keep the runner close, leaving a huge hole on the right side, where Jeter has spent his whole career slapping the ball. And then Meek threw “a cutter away,” the pitch you’d throw if you wanted the batter to hit a one hopper to the right side — something you’d do if you had your second baseman positioned there.
Ballgame over, Yankees win. Jeter goes out a hero and it’s all good, even for the Orioles, who lined up on their dugout fence to salute him.
The legend was given his chance, out of the respect he had earned over 20 seasons, and did what he was supposed to do with it.
Perfect.
2 Perfect!You must have missed the line at the end of the story that I put in bold for you as well as the one above that talking about Showalter being the only guy that does that. Look belief what you want but that is a NY Post writer trying to keep the Yankee circle jerk readers happy. I saw those lines. You believing what you want to believe is the same. The NY Post guy also said they were saving Britton, which is the right thing to do. I would argue, that's not true. You pitch your best pitcher in the highest leverage point of the game no matter what.
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Post by egadsto on Sept 26, 2014 12:28:12 GMT -6
Well, we will have to disagree. He hasn't been intentionally walked in 630 plate appearances this year and that would not have changed last night unless a left was coming in. I would wager any amount of money on that. Here's an article that discusses the 2 sides. nypost.com/2014/09/26/jeters-heroics-were-a-little-too-perfect/So we go to the bottom of the ninth, and Orioles manager Buck Showalter sends in end-of-the-bench righty Evan Meek. He was Baltimore’s sixth pitcher of the game, and Showalter correctly was saving his closer, Zach Britton, for a save situation. So even with the expanded September rosters, Meek was the best he could do.
Meek gave up a leadoff single to Jose Pirela (a guy wearing No. 67 — think about that for a second). Next, Brett Gardner bunted pinch-runner Richardson to second, which gave Showalter the opportunity to intentionally walk Jeter. That would be a logical next move in many circumstances. Jeter’s run meant nothing, and a walk would have set up a double play or at least a force play at any base.
Showalter declined to walk Jeter. There is a baseball reason for his decision. Brian McCann, red hot in September, was on deck, and Showalter was out of lefties. His plan likely was to try to get Jeter out, then walk McCann and go after the ice-cold Mark Teixeira.
Or perhaps Showalter simply did not want to deprive Jeter of his final moment (and maybe there’s not a manager in baseball who would have done that on this night).
So Showalter shaded second baseman Kelly Johnson close to the bag to try to keep the runner close, leaving a huge hole on the right side, where Jeter has spent his whole career slapping the ball. And then Meek threw “a cutter away,” the pitch you’d throw if you wanted the batter to hit a one hopper to the right side — something you’d do if you had your second baseman positioned there.
Ballgame over, Yankees win. Jeter goes out a hero and it’s all good, even for the Orioles, who lined up on their dugout fence to salute him.
The legend was given his chance, out of the respect he had earned over 20 seasons, and did what he was supposed to do with it.
Perfect.
2 Perfect!You must have missed the line at the end of the story that I put in bold for you as well as the one above that talking about Showalter being the only guy that does that. Look belief what you want but that is a NY Post writer trying to keep the Yankee circle jerk readers happy. Oh, and here's an article from earlier in the week that talks about Showalter having no empathy for Jeter. Believe what you want to believe. www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/madden-orioles-manager-buck-showalter-shows-derek-jeter-love-team-buries-yankees-article-1.1951992He may be a tried-and-true baseball traditionalist, but when it comes to the Yankees, the organization he grew up in only to be tossed to the curb all those years ago, when Jeter was a raw 20-year-old rookie, Buck does not have a whole lot of warm and fuzzy feelings, so it therefore had to be with much delight that he was able to serve as their official executioner Wednesday. He would never say that, of course, but the five pitching changes he made in a 9-5 game, including bringing in righthander Brad Brach to face Jeter, who was hitless on this elimination day, with one out, none on and the O’s up, 9-3, in the eighth, said it all.
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Sept 26, 2014 12:57:46 GMT -6
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Sept 26, 2014 12:57:46 GMT -6
Still not caring. Several years ago during the last work interuption in MLB, i was actually hoping it would be the end of baseball entirely. Now I will have to wait another 40 years to see its long drawn out death throws. I hope to live to see it. It should be close.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 13:15:19 GMT -6
Its not going to happen in my lifetime.
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Post by Ginger on Sept 27, 2014 14:13:32 GMT -6
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Post by egadsto on Sept 27, 2014 14:17:33 GMT -6
Nicely done. Coach and then runner in the foreground and then the fans in the background. Thanks.
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Sept 30, 2014 20:17:33 GMT -6
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Post by #70 on Sept 30, 2014 20:17:33 GMT -6
Wanna see some bad managing? Some of the worst going down in KC. Ned Yost is a tard.
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Post by egadsto on Sept 30, 2014 20:53:05 GMT -6
Wanna see some bad managing? Some of the worst going down in KC. Ned Yost is a tard. Well, he's getting everyone in the bullpen in the game. Brandon Moss with 4 HRs after All-Star game and then 2 (so far) tonight. Gotta love the one game playoff.
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Post by egadsto on Sept 30, 2014 21:52:21 GMT -6
Nice little comeback by the Royals. Let's see if they can finish the job in extra innings.
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Sept 30, 2014 22:24:03 GMT -6
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Post by #70 on Sept 30, 2014 22:24:03 GMT -6
They've got some dudes that can flat out fly. Stealing 3rd with a lefty up and a run down in the 9th? Yoikes
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Post by Earl Slick on Sept 30, 2014 22:33:17 GMT -6
The stage s set. Do or don't time.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Sept 30, 2014 22:59:19 GMT -6
The stage s set. Do or don't time. KC did. Right now, someone, somewhere, in KC is making a bed. That bed will be full of shit. Just a deluge of shit. See, e.g. Chiefs postseasons post-merger. Although that fucking kid KC has who just got out of college is straight nasty. Felt liek the big boy Bobbah Jenks throwing out there - if they ride that kid and get him leads, they gonna win.
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Post by egadsto on Oct 1, 2014 6:10:15 GMT -6
They've got some dudes that can flat out fly. Stealing 3rd with a lefty up and a run down in the 9th? Yoikes Gutsy.
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Post by Solar Stud on Oct 1, 2014 21:04:34 GMT -6
Gwad damn right!!! I knew you had one rimming quality about you. Go birds! Bucco's just got in as well. Baseball haters are cub fans or were. Yeah, for sure...all of you Cub-loving, Cardinals-hating imbecilic's can blow me. By far, the birds are the best run baseball organization in baseball. And will continue to be so. When the Cubs even sniff a Central Division title, give me a shout. When they make the series, call 911.
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Post by egadsto on Oct 1, 2014 22:06:32 GMT -6
Gwad damn right!!! I knew you had one rimming quality about you. Go birds! Bucco's just got in as well. Baseball haters are cub fans or were. Yeah, for sure...all of you Cub-loving, Cardinals-hating imbecilic's can blow me. By far, the birds are the best run baseball organization in baseball. And will continue to be so. When the Cubs even sniff a Central Division title, give me a shout. When they make the series, call 911.
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Post by NotMyKid on Oct 2, 2014 8:01:57 GMT -6
The stage s set. Do or don't time. KC did. Right now, someone, somewhere, in KC is making a bed. That bed will be full of shit. Just a deluge of shit. See, e.g. Chiefs postseasons post-merger. Although that fucking kid KC has who just got out of college is straight nasty. Felt liek the big boy Bobbah Jenks throwing out there - if they ride that kid and get him leads, they gonna win. 29 years between playoff appearances. The Cubs have made 5 playoff appearances since then. Just think about that for a fucking second.
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