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Post by Gumbyhawk on Apr 17, 2008 15:11:01 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 17, 2008 15:44:09 GMT -6
Yeah, those kids would have been better off either (a) becoming brides of Warren Jeffs' henchmen (for the gals), (b) getting tossed out on their own at 14 (for the guys) or (c) becoming a permanent ward of the state with no due process. Cut out due process, the state knows what's best and there is no need to analyze anything.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Apr 17, 2008 16:50:52 GMT -6
Yeah, because all of those asshole lawyers have nothing but due process and the best interests of those kids in mind.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 17, 2008 17:07:04 GMT -6
Whoa, lawyers are donating their time to those in need of representation and now they are getting shat upon by the left? Pay more taxes. Don't do pro bono. I guess a guy can't win with this crowd.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Apr 18, 2008 7:29:31 GMT -6
But 350???
How many parasites.... uh, I mean LAWYERS... are needed for this?
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 7:36:32 GMT -6
Each kid should have their own lawyer to prevent any potential conflicts of interest. Weren't there over 400 kids?
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Apr 18, 2008 8:21:04 GMT -6
Each kid should have their own lawyer to prevent any potential conflicts of interest. Weren't there over 400 kids? Yep. Over 400 kids. I fail to see why 350 lawyers are needed. What's the conflict of interest? Aren't the kids basically all on the same side of this? |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 8:51:33 GMT -6
You never know what the conflict might be, that's why each kid needs his or her own lawyer. If one says everything was swell and they want to go back and another says it sucked ass and their parents should be locked up, there is no way one lawyer could represent both of those kids at once.
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Post by ignatiusreilly on Apr 18, 2008 12:16:28 GMT -6
yeah this sounds like a big goverment clusterf*ck. Our tax dollars hard at work.
If reading certain message boards led you to believe that all lawyers are extremely right wing conservatives that do little but spout off a bunch of assumptions, labels, and stereotypes. These here are your liberal lawyers, creating mass confusion under the guise of 'doing something worthwhile', they are about as useless as your conservative lawyers.
But then there I go with my own assumptions, labels, and stereotypes. I'm sure there are good lawyers somewhere.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 12:40:19 GMT -6
I'd bet that most of those lawyers are conservatives. It's not the lawyers' fault that the judge did not have an orderly process set up in advance of such a large hearing. If I am ever unable to speak for myself, I would be damn happy that someone stepped up to represent me. These lawyers who are working to determine what's in the best interest of those kids are providing the pinnacle of community service, but they get bashed by the batshit insane left wingers.
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Post by ignatiusreilly on Apr 18, 2008 12:57:50 GMT -6
No, I'd bet they were all liberals. And dirty bat shit crazy ones at that. They all went to liberal arts schools and learned a bunch of liberal things like music, poetry, pottery, and frisbee. Heck they even did it 4 years longer than the average schmoe. I'm going to take a page out of your book and label all these lawyers dirty liberals. Even you, Ralph, are a liberal. You just think it's cool to act like you're paying more taxes than everyone else.
But these lawyers down here are obviously idiots. Gathering around creating paperwork, wasting money, billing the taxpayers exhorbitant amounts of money. It just goes to show you that lawyers convolute our society just as bad as hippies and commies do. But hippies and commies are usually sterotypes that ignorant people use to group people together for purposes of degrading them (not always, Chinese people could legitimetely be called commies, although they're capitalistic commies these days). Lawyers are real people, they have to pass a test and have a degree in poetry reading in order to clog up society and waste other people's money and time.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 13:08:54 GMT -6
Wow, my guess is that when you get an OWI, divorce, get injured, have a family member die, get ripped off in a deal, or are in need of a will, you'll just take care of it yourself and save the $300 that a lawyer will charge you and get the same results. The US is a nation of rules and laws, lawyers help navigate those rules and laws, commies and hippies don't believe in those things, they only believe in brute force or laziness.
Yep, I think it's cool to act like I pay more in taxes than everyone else. I'm not in the group that has been deemed "rich" that pays over 90% of the income tax in the country. You got me there. I hope the $400 you got stuck for last year didn't sting too bad.
The only poetry on the bar exam is the fictional garbage that liberal judicial activists like your hero Ruth Ginsberg made up to say that the Constitution protects a woman's right to perform infanticide or that the Constitution treats everyone equally, but some people more equally or that the Constitution gives the federal government unmitigated regulatory power.
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Post by ignatiusreilly on Apr 18, 2008 13:23:10 GMT -6
I got an OWI in 1998, and didn't get a lawyer. I have had a lawyer before. Found them basically useless. I even went to court once and politely asked the judge to drop the case and he did.
I couldn't tell you two things about Ruth Ginsberg. So I can't really say if she is my hero. I doubt it. I am my own hero.
The Constitution does grant unmitigated regulatory control. They left that part up to interpretation, so lawyers and judges (one in the same) can write up paperwork to circumvent the law. It's completely screwed up. Dirty liberal lawyers looking for loopholes. Me, I'm not a liberal lawyer, don't want to be one. I suppose the money would be good, but then I would be working more hours, shuffling paperwork, and generally feeling pretty useless. Not the life for me. I live in Iowa, most of the things I enjoy doing don't require too much money.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 13:28:10 GMT -6
Wow. The modern left is even more morally and intellectually bankrupt than I thought. OWIs. Failure to comprehend that the federal government is a government of enumerated powers. Amazing.
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Post by ignatiusreilly on Apr 18, 2008 13:36:12 GMT -6
what the f*ck are you blathering about. If you are going to attempt to insult me, at least make some sense.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 13:43:06 GMT -6
I said you are morally bankrupt. That is in response to the fact that you got an OWI. I have NEVER even thought about driving drunk. It endangers other people.
I also said you are intellectually bankrupt. That is in response to your assertion that "The Constitution does grant unmitigated regulatory control." It's not true and it makes it very apparent that you have never looked at the Constitution, or if you did, you failed to understand it.
They're not attempts to insult, just pointing out the truth.
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Post by ignatiusreilly on Apr 18, 2008 13:50:10 GMT -6
Well I was being honest and I figured some schmuck like you've proven yourself to be would attempt to label me in an attempt to put yourself on a pedestal. But you can try all you want, I've long since put you beneath me after reading maybe 10 of your posts. I'm pretty certain I've experienced much more in my life than you and could kick your ass in just about anything other than maybe sitting on my ass, wasting money, and bitching about taxes.
They are attempts to insult, Ralph. That is your entire M.O.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Apr 18, 2008 13:56:14 GMT -6
...If I am ever unable to speak for myself... Ha, ha!! Speaking of the message of hope....  |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 13:59:17 GMT -6
could kick your ass in just about anything... Famous last words of neanderthal mouthbreather knuckledraggers. Maybe you should hold off on posting until you get out of 11th grade. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 13:59:58 GMT -6
...If I am ever unable to speak for myself... Ha, ha!! Speaking of the message of hope.... Maybe someday you liberals will silence me, maybe someday. |
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Post by ignatiusreilly on Apr 18, 2008 14:01:10 GMT -6
That's how we deal with blowhards where I come from. There's no actual talking sense into them. They are going to think they're better than you until you finally stuff your foot in their ass. It's pretty simple really. That's where I've arrived with regards to you.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 18, 2008 14:07:08 GMT -6
That's how we deal with blowhards where I come from. There's no actual talking sense into them. They are going to think they're better than you until you finally stuff your foot in their ass. It's pretty simple really. That's where I've arrived with regards to you. Alright 'spo's, sorry for working you up into a lather. Don't get too pissed. No need to talk about stuffing asses or anything. **Extends fistbump to iggie** Cronies in Hawkism. |
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