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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Nov 19, 2014 11:41:28 GMT -6
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Nov 19, 2014 11:48:06 GMT -6
Yeah well those guys weren't PWB were they.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Nov 20, 2014 12:44:55 GMT -6
I guess the timetable was moved up.. It shall be tonight. So sayeth the king dingaling.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 20, 2014 14:08:14 GMT -6
Didn't Reagan just sign the ICA, which along with some minor tweaks is the current state of immigration law? It's fucking hilarious that the American left purports to be for the working man, but when push comes to shove and in the hope of garnering future votes, they are more than willing to sell out the economic interests of the working man. And then of course they bitch about wealth or income differentials and push for shit liek higher taxes, higher minimum wage and easier paths to unionize. Here's a fucking simple fact - a tighter labor market does a fuckload more for shifting the balance of power between capital and labor than any legislative edict ever can. Our government, left and right, have sold out the working man in this country. It was inevitable that Europe and Asia would rebuild after WWII destroyed the capital bases there and that folks would be relegated to competing with cheaper labor in China, India, etc., but it was not inevitable that a massive pool of third world labor would flood the US borders as well and drastically contribute to the downfall of American labor that can't be offshored. For fucks sake, the god damned Hormel plant in Fort Dodge was probably paying people more per hour in 1978 than Hormel is paying today. Of course, execs blamed excessive union demands (and they were prolly excessive), but without the god damned influx of dirt cheap labor, meat packing would prolly pay at least $25 an hour today. Jesus, I can't stand these fucks. No one who goes to work for a living should celebrate this fucking nonsense and the media trying to paint this as Obama versus the GOP is a god damned sick joke - those fucks all work for the same master. It is an absolute power grab by big fucking business. For fucks sake, there is a provision letting more god damned H1Bs in to appease Silicon Valley and the tech industry, as well. "Hey kids, go major in STEM, skip the humanities bullshit." That advice ain't even sage anymore because these fucks are going to hire folks from South Asia for all of those fucking jobs. Fucking A. Sorry for the rant.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 20, 2014 14:51:43 GMT -6
Didn't Reagan just sign the ICA, which along with some minor tweaks is the current state of immigration law? It's fucking hilarious that the American left purports to be for the working man, but when push comes to shove and in the hope of garnering future votes, they are more than willing to sell out the economic interests of the working man. And then of course they bitch about wealth or income differentials and push for shit liek higher taxes, higher minimum wage and easier paths to unionize. Here's a fucking simple fact - a tighter labor market does a fuckload more for shifting the balance of power between capital and labor than any legislative edict ever can. Our government, left and right, have sold out the working man in this country. It was inevitable that Europe and Asia would rebuild after WWII destroyed the capital bases there and that folks would be relegated to competing with cheaper labor in China, India, etc., but it was not inevitable that a massive pool of third world labor would flood the US borders as well and drastically contribute to the downfall of American labor that can't be offshored. For fucks sake, the god damned Hormel plant in Fort Dodge was probably paying people more per hour in 1978 than Hormel is paying today. Of course, execs blamed excessive union demands (and they were prolly excessive), but without the god damned influx of dirt cheap labor, meat packing would prolly pay at least $25 an hour today. Jesus, I can't stand these fucks. No one who goes to work for a living should celebrate this fucking nonsense and the media trying to paint this as Obama versus the GOP is a god damned sick joke - those fucks all work for the same master. It is an absolute power grab by big fucking business. For fucks sake, there is a provision letting more god damned H1Bs in to appease Silicon Valley and the tech industry, as well. "Hey kids, go major in STEM, skip the humanities bullshit." That advice ain't even sage anymore because these fucks are going to hire folks from South Asia for all of those fucking jobs. Fucking A. Sorry for the rant. True, all. Add to the fact their poaster boy for all things left, Cesar Chavez, was rabidly anti-immigration, seeing them as a threat to unions and the working man, to the point he went to the border and joined others looking to imprison or kill those who would cross into the US of A illegally. The cultural warriors got a hold of the issue and fucking warped it. Now we have fly-over conservatives worried there grand daughters will bring a darkie to Thanksgiving instead of mowing their lawns, and coastal liberals are worried about a lack of diversity in the country, even though they put little Makenna in private schools because too many "neighborhood kids" go to the public school. The problem is, of course, not that there is illegal immigration, but there are liek two generations of illegal immigrants living in the country over the past 25 years, and we can't do shit about it. The cure was liek 25 years ago, and if we would have fined companies for hiring these fucks in the first place, they wouldn't have come here in waves. We can't fucking deport them now, that's just impractical in theory, and impossible in practice. The only benefit I can really see out of the Chairman's decree is that maybe it will help 1st generation immigrants assimilate moar. There shouldn't be large communities of people who can't speak English...not because "THIS IS 'MURIKA AN WE SPEAK ENGLASH!", but because English is the fucking language of the economy, and if you do speak English, you can't contribute to the economy.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Nov 20, 2014 14:56:28 GMT -6
Ahhh.... poor steve king is pissed that he can't defund Immigration to stop this horrid overreach by Obama. Sucks when a department is completely self funded and not tied to government payouts to keep on working.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 20, 2014 15:32:25 GMT -6
The cultural warriors got a hold of the issue and fucking warped it. Now we have fly-over conservatives worried there grand daughters will bring a darkie to Thanksgiving instead of mowing their lawns, and coastal liberals are worried about a lack of diversity in the country, even though they put little Makenna in private schools because too many "neighborhood kids" go to the public school. The problem is, of course, not that there is illegal immigration, but there are liek two generations of illegal immigrants living in the country over the past 25 years, and we can't do shit about it. The cure was liek 25 years ago, and if we would have fined companies for hiring these fucks in the first place, they wouldn't have come here in waves. We can't fucking deport them now, that's just impractical in theory, and impossible in practice. The only benefit I can really see out of the Chairman's decree is that maybe it will help 1st generation immigrants assimilate moar. There shouldn't be large communities of people who can't speak English...not because "THIS IS 'MURIKA AN WE SPEAK ENGLASH!", but because English is the fucking language of the economy, and if you do speak English, you can't contribute to the economy.Keep dreamin'. The Emporer's decree, combined wif his neutering of the Border Patrol, will only invite millions more to come here. And don't kid yourself; wifin a year there'll be impassioned calls to give Obummercare eligibility and ultimately citizenship. Dude, the Border patrol is flush with money. And don't be a fucking retard. Immigrants don't come here for handouts. They come for work. The way to keep immigrants out is to "Take 'er jerrrbs".
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Post by Other on Nov 21, 2014 8:35:51 GMT -6
Keep dreamin'. The Emporer's decree, combined wif his neutering of the Border Patrol, will only invite millions more to come here. And don't kid yourself; wifin a year there'll be impassioned calls to give Obummercare eligibility and ultimately citizenship. Dude, the Border patrol is flush with money. And don't be a fucking retard. Immigrants don't come here for handouts. They come for work. The way to keep immigrants out is to "Take 'er jerrrbs". No shit. If you want to stop the immigration problem you just need to exact an onerous punishment on those that employ them but that's never going to happen
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Post by egadsto on Nov 21, 2014 8:39:35 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on Nov 21, 2014 10:07:56 GMT -6
You stupid cocksuckers. First off, without those Burrito Bangers, none of you fucks are eating fruits or vegetables. Oh Hai Scurvy. Who do you think picks that shit? The lettuce fairy? The avocado elf?
Second, nobody, and I mean nobody, luvs them some desperate Rio-baptized spics moar than big bizness, especially meat processors and the like. Even white trash prole Murcans aren't willing to debone a hog for slave wages. Plus, you slice your hand gutting pigs while illegal, you prolly ain't too inclined to file work comp and get discovered. That's easy pickin's for ICE. They also pay into SS and Medicare but can't take out. A teeming underclass of unskilled, dirt cheap, rights-deficient labor. That's a status quo that ain't necessarily bad for a bottom line.
The vast majority of these poor bastards are 1) fleeing abject poverty and/or violence; and 2) looking for work. You fucks would do it too if the shoe was on your foot. When I'm at the store or driving down the road and I see a car packed full of dirty Mexicans or whatnot, I resist the urge to feel contempt and scorn and try to shoot for empathy instead. Believe me, given my constitution, that's often a hard sell. I have to talk myself into it. I have to remind myself that almost every WASPy fuck I run across prolly has some dirty fucking immigrant roots back in the day.
As long as America is magnitudes wealthier than the strapped countries to its south, they are gonna try to come here. You'd do it too, so don't get all fucking sanctimonious. It's liek heat chasing cold. It;s liek gravity. It's nature. It's science.
If you wanna get pissed about immigration, you should get pissed about the H1B1 bullshit. Now there's some brazen labor arbitrage that's actually harming Americans.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 21, 2014 10:21:13 GMT -6
You stupid cocksuckers. First off, without those Burrito Bangers, none of you fucks are eating fruits or vegetables. Oh Hai Scurvy. Who do you think picks that shit? The lettuce fairy? The avocado elf? Second, nobody, and I mean nobody, luvs them some desperate Rio-baptized spics moar than big bizness, especially meat processors and the like. Even white trash prole Murcans aren't willing to debone a hog for slave wages. Plus, you slice your hand gutting pigs while illegal, you prolly ain't too inclined to file work comp and get discovered. That's easy pickin's for ICE. They also pay into SS and Medicare but can't take out. A teeming underclass of unskilled, dirt cheap, rights-deficient labor. That's a status quo that ain't necessarily bad for a bottom line. The vast majority of these poor bastards are 1) fleeing abject poverty and/or violence; and 2) looking for work. You fucks would do it too if the shoe was on your foot. When I'm at the store or driving down the road and I see a car packed full of dirty Mexicans or whatnot, I resist the urge to feel contempt and scorn and try to shoot for empathy instead. Believe me, given my constitution, that's often a hard sell. I have to talk myself into it. I have to remind myself that almost every WASPy fuck I run across prolly has some dirty fucking immigrant roots back in the day. As long as America is magnitudes wealthier than the strapped countries to its south, they are gonna try to come here. You'd do it too, so don't get all fucking sanctimonious. It's liek heat chasing cold. It;s liek gravity. It's nature. It's science. If you wanna get pissed about immigration, you should get pissed about the H1B1 bullshit. Now there's some brazen labor arbitrage that's actually harming Americans. I agree for the most part, but not in whole on the labor part. As I mentioned above, if unfettered immigration hadn't have been allowed, issues liek the $10.10 minimum wage would be completely irrelevant. I also have a friend who is an ER doctor in Rogers Park and while these folks may not hit Medicare, they absolutely crush Medicaid and the local hospitals that can't turn them away. The history of immigration centered around when labor was needed for economic purposes. There were many waves of immigration to get folks to settle land to build our initial agrarian economy and a huge push when it was needed to provide labor for the industrial revolution, but now you have a sizable underclass of Americans who are not "economically viable" because they have been displaced by far cheaper immigrant labor and it is a fucking joke. I have empathy for folks born into poverty in Mexico or El Salvador or some similar shitass country, but I am more concerned with the Americans born into the same whose livelihood has been destabilized. 'Mericans in Fort Dodge used to debone hogs and they used to do it for damned good wages, but now all those jobs are given to FOB immigrants for peanuts. I'd pay an extra $1 a pound for ham to employ 'Mericans.
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Post by Ginger on Nov 21, 2014 10:27:41 GMT -6
You stupid cocksuckers. First off, without those Burrito Bangers, none of you fucks are eating fruits or vegetables. Oh Hai Scurvy. Who do you think picks that shit? The lettuce fairy? The avocado elf? Second, nobody, and I mean nobody, luvs them some desperate Rio-baptized spics moar than big bizness, especially meat processors and the like. Even white trash prole Murcans aren't willing to debone a hog for slave wages. Plus, you slice your hand gutting pigs while illegal, you prolly ain't too inclined to file work comp and get discovered. That's easy pickin's for ICE. They also pay into SS and Medicare but can't take out. A teeming underclass of unskilled, dirt cheap, rights-deficient labor. That's a status quo that ain't necessarily bad for a bottom line. The vast majority of these poor bastards are 1) fleeing abject poverty and/or violence; and 2) looking for work. You fucks would do it too if the shoe was on your foot. When I'm at the store or driving down the road and I see a car packed full of dirty Mexicans or whatnot, I resist the urge to feel contempt and scorn and try to shoot for empathy instead. Believe me, given my constitution, that's often a hard sell. I have to talk myself into it. I have to remind myself that almost every WASPy fuck I run across prolly has some dirty fucking immigrant roots back in the day. As long as America is magnitudes wealthier than the strapped countries to its south, they are gonna try to come here. You'd do it too, so don't get all fucking sanctimonious. It's liek heat chasing cold. It;s liek gravity. It's nature. It's science. If you wanna get pissed about immigration, you should get pissed about the H1B1 bullshit. Now there's some brazen labor arbitrage that's actually harming Americans. I agree for the most part, but not in whole on the labor part. As I mentioned above, if unfettered immigration hadn't have been allowed, issues liek the $10.10 minimum wage would be completely irrelevant. I also have a friend who is an ER doctor in Rogers Park and while these folks may not hit Medicare, they absolutely crush Medicaid and the local hospitals that can't turn them away. The history of immigration centered around when labor was needed for economic purposes. There were many waves of immigration to get folks to settle land to build our initial agrarian economy and a huge push when it was needed to provide labor for the industrial revolution, but now you have a sizable underclass of Americans who are not "economically viable" because they have been displaced by far cheaper immigrant labor and it is a fucking joke. I have empathy for folks born into poverty in Mexico or El Salvador or some similar shitass country, but I am more concerned with the Americans born into the same whose livelihood has been destabilized. 'Mericans in Fort Dodge used to debone hogs and they used to do it for damned good wages, but now all those jobs are given to FOB immigrants for peanuts. I'd pay an extra $1 a pound for ham to employ 'Mericans. I'd have to agree with Mr. Okeefe here. Regular Americans used to do these jobs for good wages...and they fucking deserved those wages. It's a crappy, dangerous job. Losing jobs like this is why the middle class is in its way out.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Nov 21, 2014 10:28:36 GMT -6
You stupid cocksuckers. First off, without those Burrito Bangers, none of you fucks are eating fruits or vegetables. Oh Hai Scurvy. Who do you think picks that shit? The lettuce fairy? The avocado elf? Second, nobody, and I mean nobody, luvs them some desperate Rio-baptized spics moar than big bizness, especially meat processors and the like. Even white trash prole Murcans aren't willing to debone a hog for slave wages. Plus, you slice your hand gutting pigs while illegal, you prolly ain't too inclined to file work comp and get discovered. That's easy pickin's for ICE. They also pay into SS and Medicare but can't take out. A teeming underclass of unskilled, dirt cheap, rights-deficient labor. That's a status quo that ain't necessarily bad for a bottom line. The vast majority of these poor bastards are 1) fleeing abject poverty and/or violence; and 2) looking for work. You fucks would do it too if the shoe was on your foot. When I'm at the store or driving down the road and I see a car packed full of dirty Mexicans or whatnot, I resist the urge to feel contempt and scorn and try to shoot for empathy instead. Believe me, given my constitution, that's often a hard sell. I have to talk myself into it. I have to remind myself that almost every WASPy fuck I run across prolly has some dirty fucking immigrant roots back in the day. As long as America is magnitudes wealthier than the strapped countries to its south, they are gonna try to come here. You'd do it too, so don't get all fucking sanctimonious. It's liek heat chasing cold. It;s liek gravity. It's nature. It's science. If you wanna get pissed about immigration, you should get pissed about the H1B1 bullshit. Now there's some brazen labor arbitrage that's actually harming Americans.That is the fucking part I'm the most pissed about. I don't care about the lettuce pickers and day laborers. They will NEVER take my job. Now, sandeep from India, who has built up his education at a college where he gets a artificial degree in IT, doesn't know shit about it, just had the answers for the questions, and then cheats to get high level certifications and doesn't understand the concept of what it is in is willing to come to the US, work for 25% less than anyone else similarly (and legitimately) qualified takes real jobs away from folks in my industry. Add in the language and stench factor and those companies don't care. They'll bring them in, hope they understand enough to get the job done and do it "ok" once trained. So fuck those goat fuckers right in their assholes.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 21, 2014 10:44:27 GMT -6
You stupid cocksuckers. First off, without those Burrito Bangers, none of you fucks are eating fruits or vegetables. Oh Hai Scurvy. Who do you think picks that shit? The lettuce fairy? The avocado elf? Second, nobody, and I mean nobody, luvs them some desperate Rio-baptized spics moar than big bizness, especially meat processors and the like. Even white trash prole Murcans aren't willing to debone a hog for slave wages. Plus, you slice your hand gutting pigs while illegal, you prolly ain't too inclined to file work comp and get discovered. That's easy pickin's for ICE. They also pay into SS and Medicare but can't take out. A teeming underclass of unskilled, dirt cheap, rights-deficient labor. That's a status quo that ain't necessarily bad for a bottom line. The vast majority of these poor bastards are 1) fleeing abject poverty and/or violence; and 2) looking for work. You fucks would do it too if the shoe was on your foot. When I'm at the store or driving down the road and I see a car packed full of dirty Mexicans or whatnot, I resist the urge to feel contempt and scorn and try to shoot for empathy instead. Believe me, given my constitution, that's often a hard sell. I have to talk myself into it. I have to remind myself that almost every WASPy fuck I run across prolly has some dirty fucking immigrant roots back in the day. As long as America is magnitudes wealthier than the strapped countries to its south, they are gonna try to come here. You'd do it too, so don't get all fucking sanctimonious. It's liek heat chasing cold. It;s liek gravity. It's nature. It's science. If you wanna get pissed about immigration, you should get pissed about the H1B1 bullshit. Now there's some brazen labor arbitrage that's actually harming Americans.That is the fucking part I'm the most pissed about. I don't care about the lettuce pickers and day laborers. They will NEVER take my job. Now, sandeep from India, who has built up his education at a college where he gets a artificial degree in IT, doesn't know shit about it, just had the answers for the questions, and then cheats to get high level certifications and doesn't understand the concept of what it is in is willing to come to the US, work for 25% less than anyone else similarly (and legitimately) qualified takes real jobs away from folks in my industry. Add in the language and stench factor and those companies don't care. They'll bring them in, hope they understand enough to get the job done and do it "ok" once trained. So fuck those goat fuckers right in their assholes. Now that's the greed I expect to see out of die hard leftists. Even the H-1B guys don't compete with me, as there is another layer of state licensure and 6 figures of education that keeps them out. But I will speak out for all Americans, because Americans, whether a comp sci major from ISU or a 19 year old black kid on the south side of Chicago who dropped out of high school, all deserve a shot at a decent wage that isn't undercut by some immigrant willing to work for minimum wage or less. No edict can make that happen, but the government has completely fucked the economic interests of millions of Americans with third world labor importation.
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Nov 21, 2014 11:29:03 GMT -6
The cultural warriors got a hold of the issue and fucking warped it. Now we have fly-over conservatives worried there grand daughters will bring a darkie to Thanksgiving instead of mowing their lawns, and coastal liberals are worried about a lack of diversity in the country, even though they put little Makenna in private schools because too many "neighborhood kids" go to the public school. The problem is, of course, not that there is illegal immigration, but there are liek two generations of illegal immigrants living in the country over the past 25 years, and we can't do shit about it. The cure was liek 25 years ago, and if we would have fined companies for hiring these fucks in the first place, they wouldn't have come here in waves. We can't fucking deport them now, that's just impractical in theory, and impossible in practice. The only benefit I can really see out of the Chairman's decree is that maybe it will help 1st generation immigrants assimilate moar. There shouldn't be large communities of people who can't speak English...not because "THIS IS 'MURIKA AN WE SPEAK ENGLASH!", but because English is the fucking language of the economy, and if you do speak English, you can't contribute to the economy.Keep dreamin'. The Emporer's decree, combined wif his neutering of the Border Patrol, will only invite millions more to come here. And don't kid yourself; wifin a year there'll be impassioned calls to give Obummercare eligibility and ultimately citizenship. Border patrol agents in 1992: 4,100 Border patrol agents in 2013: 21,000
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Post by Plez Azkins on Nov 21, 2014 11:55:10 GMT -6
That is the fucking part I'm the most pissed about. I don't care about the lettuce pickers and day laborers. They will NEVER take my job. Now, sandeep from India, who has built up his education at a college where he gets a artificial degree in IT, doesn't know shit about it, just had the answers for the questions, and then cheats to get high level certifications and doesn't understand the concept of what it is in is willing to come to the US, work for 25% less than anyone else similarly (and legitimately) qualified takes real jobs away from folks in my industry. Add in the language and stench factor and those companies don't care. They'll bring them in, hope they understand enough to get the job done and do it "ok" once trained. So fuck those goat fuckers right in their assholes. Now that's the greed I expect to see out of die hard leftists. Even the H-1B guys don't compete with me, as there is another layer of state licensure and 6 figures of education that keeps them out. But I will speak out for all Americans, because Americans, whether a comp sci major from ISU or a 19 year old black kid on the south side of Chicago who dropped out of high school, all deserve a shot at a decent wage that isn't undercut by some immigrant willing to work for minimum wage or less. No edict can make that happen, but the government has completely fucked the economic interests of millions of Americans with third world labor importation. Query: If you raised minimum wage to a point the American dropout would be willing to gut a pig, wouldn't management hire him before the Mexican? It would seem a manager would rather hire a reliable worker who can communicate at a reasonable level than hire a reliable worker who can't. I'm sure I am making this far too simple, but it seems to me that raising the minimum wage would bring more 'Merican labor into the fold. I too would pay an extra $1 a pound for ham and an extra .50 for a value meal if it meant folks could make enough money to get off government assistance.
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Post by The Resistance on Nov 21, 2014 12:33:05 GMT -6
Truly a great humanitarian move by our President. This is what makes America great. The kids and families can rekindle their lives together again. They should start engraving Nobel number two right now.
God bless America.
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Post by thunderhawk on Nov 21, 2014 12:49:01 GMT -6
You stupid cocksuckers. First off, without those Burrito Bangers, none of you fucks are eating fruits or vegetables. Oh Hai Scurvy. Who do you think picks that shit? The lettuce fairy? The avocado elf? Second, nobody, and I mean nobody, luvs them some desperate Rio-baptized spics moar than big bizness, especially meat processors and the like. Even white trash prole Murcans aren't willing to debone a hog for slave wages. Plus, you slice your hand gutting pigs while illegal, you prolly ain't too inclined to file work comp and get discovered. That's easy pickin's for ICE. They also pay into SS and Medicare but can't take out. A teeming underclass of unskilled, dirt cheap, rights-deficient labor. That's a status quo that ain't necessarily bad for a bottom line. The vast majority of these poor bastards are 1) fleeing abject poverty and/or violence; and 2) looking for work. You fucks would do it too if the shoe was on your foot. When I'm at the store or driving down the road and I see a car packed full of dirty Mexicans or whatnot, I resist the urge to feel contempt and scorn and try to shoot for empathy instead. Believe me, given my constitution, that's often a hard sell. I have to talk myself into it. I have to remind myself that almost every WASPy fuck I run across prolly has some dirty fucking immigrant roots back in the day. As long as America is magnitudes wealthier than the strapped countries to its south, they are gonna try to come here. You'd do it too, so don't get all fucking sanctimonious. It's liek heat chasing cold. It;s liek gravity. It's nature. It's science. If you wanna get pissed about immigration, you should get pissed about the H1B1 bullshit. Now there's some brazen labor arbitrage that's actually harming Americans. I agree for the most part, but not in whole on the labor part. As I mentioned above, if unfettered immigration hadn't have been allowed, issues liek the $10.10 minimum wage would be completely irrelevant. I also have a friend who is an ER doctor in Rogers Park and while these folks may not hit Medicare, they absolutely crush Medicaid and the local hospitals that can't turn them away. The history of immigration centered around when labor was needed for economic purposes. There were many waves of immigration to get folks to settle land to build our initial agrarian economy and a huge push when it was needed to provide labor for the industrial revolution, but now you have a sizable underclass of Americans who are not "economically viable" because they have been displaced by far cheaper immigrant labor and it is a fucking joke. I have empathy for folks born into poverty in Mexico or El Salvador or some similar shitass country, but I am more concerned with the Americans born into the same whose livelihood has been destabilized. 'Mericans in Fort Dodge used to debone hogs and they used to do it for damned good wages, but now all those jobs are given to FOB immigrants for peanuts. I'd pay an extra $1 a pound for ham to employ 'Mericans. You're correct in your assertions. I'm just describing the situation as it is, not as how I wish it were. Tyson can get away with paying those of, uh, questionable status shit wages because they can, you know, get away with it. I too remember when those were middle class jobs. As for the ER, that's a burden for sure which might better be addressed if these people had status, because there's no way we are gonna let people die outside the ER doors on a large scale. The ideal would be to deport em all and let Americans do the work for higher wages. Also, I'd like a Ferrari in my garage tomorrow. Both are equally likely.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Nov 21, 2014 12:49:14 GMT -6
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Nov 21, 2014 13:04:36 GMT -6
A couple of things. There is nothing more reliable than an Illegal feeding five moufs here in the states and a couple more in Meheco. That motherfucker will show up to work with an arm cut off and Ebola.
Second you won't pay a dollar more for ham motherfucker. You say you will here in the interest of being patriotic but you won't. Walmart exists because it carved ten cents off a pound of ham. Ten motherfucking cents.
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Post by The Resistance on Nov 21, 2014 13:17:30 GMT -6
Aldi hams FTW.
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Nov 21, 2014 13:26:05 GMT -6
I fuckin love Aldis. Their take and bake pizzas are da bomb.
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Nov 21, 2014 13:35:03 GMT -6
Also if that price of ham goes up a dolla u can bet ur ass all Fox News will talk about is inflation killing the middle class.
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Post by thunderhawk on Nov 21, 2014 13:55:40 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 21, 2014 15:08:54 GMT -6
Now that's the greed I expect to see out of die hard leftists. Even the H-1B guys don't compete with me, as there is another layer of state licensure and 6 figures of education that keeps them out. But I will speak out for all Americans, because Americans, whether a comp sci major from ISU or a 19 year old black kid on the south side of Chicago who dropped out of high school, all deserve a shot at a decent wage that isn't undercut by some immigrant willing to work for minimum wage or less. No edict can make that happen, but the government has completely fucked the economic interests of millions of Americans with third world labor importation. Query: If you raised minimum wage to a point the American dropout would be willing to gut a pig, wouldn't management hire him before the Mexican? It would seem a manager would rather hire a reliable worker who can communicate at a reasonable level than hire a reliable worker who can't. I'm sure I am making this far too simple, but it seems to me that raising the minimum wage would bring more 'Merican labor into the fold. I too would pay an extra $1 a pound for ham and an extra .50 for a value meal if it meant folks could make enough money to get off government assistance. I am generally opposed to price controls. A price control on labor would not be necessary had the US government not sold out American labor by refusing to enforce the law for decades.
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