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Post by livingintheusa on Apr 15, 2015 16:04:01 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 15, 2015 17:00:49 GMT -6
On one hand, I like to think the nuclear age has and will deter any war between superpowers. But if there is a WWIII, I think it would start in Asia. If past is prologue, the nation with the most industrial might will win, and sadly, that ain't the US anymore. Anyway, Japan is lucky because aside from some contested islands, there are pretty much no natural resources worth conquering there, but they are unlucky because the Chinese are emotional, irrational actors who fucking hate the shit out of the Japanese for beating the shit out of them so many times in the past. Back in the day, a lot of tribes would wipe out the male children of rival tribes lest they grow up and kick your ass. Well, China is now liek that 12 year old boy who witnessed his whole family slaughtered at the hands of his enemy and has now grown up to become a supreme badass. I hope that mankind is more civilized today than it was in the '40's (on a macro scale) and the world economy is so intertwined that no one does anything stupid, but when you have a nation like China that has literally tens of millions of men who will never get laid because of their female infanticide policy, you just never fucking know. 50 million virgin males of fighting age could an absolute fucking powderkeg, especially when coupled with just the right leader and state control over media.
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Post by livingintheusa on Apr 15, 2015 18:17:16 GMT -6
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Post by saldali on Apr 15, 2015 21:55:11 GMT -6
Slightly strange, chinese might be a greater threat than islamic jihadists..... As a young lad I had one of these gems, power up with baking soda and sail away underwater.....
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Apr 16, 2015 13:24:44 GMT -6
Did you run that sub in the same tank as your sea monkeys?
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Apr 16, 2015 13:52:02 GMT -6
On one hand, I like to think the nuclear age has and will deter any war between superpowers. But if there is a WWIII, I think it would start in Asia. If past is prologue, the nation with the most industrial might will win, and sadly, that ain't the US anymore. Anyway, Japan is lucky because aside from some contested islands, there are pretty much no natural resources worth conquering there, but they are unlucky because the Chinese are emotional, irrational actors who fucking hate the shit out of the Japanese for beating the shit out of them so many times in the past. Back in the day, a lot of tribes would wipe out the male children of rival tribes lest they grow up and kick your ass. Well, China is now liek that 12 year old boy who witnessed his whole family slaughtered at the hands of his enemy and has now grown up to become a supreme badass. I hope that mankind is more civilized today than it was in the '40's (on a macro scale) and the world economy is so intertwined that no one does anything stupid, but when you have a nation like China that has literally tens of millions of men who will never get laid because of their female infanticide policy, you just never fucking know. 50 million virgin males of fighting age could an absolute fucking powderkeg, especially when coupled with just the right leader and state control over media. If you run a fired chicken restaurant, you don't kill all of the black people in town. If you run a kosher deli, you don't kill all the jews in town. If you run an Asian fusion restaurant, you don't kill all of the white hipsters in town. Long story short, it's bad form to try and kill your target consumers. China produces cheap crap, and 'Murikans are the white whale of the cheap crap market.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 16, 2015 16:35:10 GMT -6
On one hand, I like to think the nuclear age has and will deter any war between superpowers. But if there is a WWIII, I think it would start in Asia. If past is prologue, the nation with the most industrial might will win, and sadly, that ain't the US anymore. Anyway, Japan is lucky because aside from some contested islands, there are pretty much no natural resources worth conquering there, but they are unlucky because the Chinese are emotional, irrational actors who fucking hate the shit out of the Japanese for beating the shit out of them so many times in the past. Back in the day, a lot of tribes would wipe out the male children of rival tribes lest they grow up and kick your ass. Well, China is now liek that 12 year old boy who witnessed his whole family slaughtered at the hands of his enemy and has now grown up to become a supreme badass. I hope that mankind is more civilized today than it was in the '40's (on a macro scale) and the world economy is so intertwined that no one does anything stupid, but when you have a nation like China that has literally tens of millions of men who will never get laid because of their female infanticide policy, you just never fucking know. 50 million virgin males of fighting age could an absolute fucking powderkeg, especially when coupled with just the right leader and state control over media. If you run a fired chicken restaurant, you don't kill all of the black people in town. If you run a kosher deli, you don't kill all the jews in town. If you run an Asian fusion restaurant, you don't kill all of the white hipsters in town. Long story short, it's bad form to try and kill your target consumers. China produces cheap crap, and 'Murikans are the white whale of the cheap crap market. Yeah, I know that, you know that, but does some bloodthirsty Chinaman who is 36 years and who has never felt a breast know that? Big ass wars are ultimately about resources and we got a lot of them in the US. Of course, under our economic regime, we will trade resources for money, and while I liek to think our legal system is generally fair, if there is a widespread dust bowl-esque drought or the US imposes export controls on things the Chinese feel liek they rightfully purchased from us (they are moving on ag in a major way), I could see them getting pretty butthurt about it. I think in the next 10-20 years, China will pose a far greater military threat to us than the Soviets ever did because we (well, US multinationals, anyway) gave the Chi-Comms limitless capital and pools of intellectual property the Soviets could have never dreamed of receiving from us. We print bonds and sell them to the Chi-Comms in exchange for iPhones and car parts. I do not believe that will be the perpetual state of affairs.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Apr 16, 2015 16:46:50 GMT -6
If you run a fired chicken restaurant, you don't kill all of the black people in town. If you run a kosher deli, you don't kill all the jews in town. If you run an Asian fusion restaurant, you don't kill all of the white hipsters in town. Long story short, it's bad form to try and kill your target consumers. China produces cheap crap, and 'Murikans are the white whale of the cheap crap market. Yeah, I know that, you know that, but does some bloodthirsty Chinaman who is 36 years and who has never felt a breast know that? Big ass wars are ultimately about resources and we got a lot of them in the US. Of course, under our economic regime, we will trade resources for money, and while I liek to think our legal system is generally fair, if there is a widespread dust bowl-esque drought or the US imposes export controls on things the Chinese feel liek they rightfully purchased from us (they are moving on ag in a major way), I could see them getting pretty butthurt about it. I think in the next 10-20 years, China will pose a far greater military threat to us than the Soviets ever did because we (well, US multinationals, anyway) gave the Chi-Comms limitless capital and pools of intellectual property the Soviets could have never dreamed of receiving from us. We print bonds and sell them to the Chi-Comms in exchange for iPhones and car parts. I do not believe that will be the perpetual state of affairs. tldr
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Apr 17, 2015 8:15:55 GMT -6
If you run a fired chicken restaurant, you don't kill all of the black people in town. If you run a kosher deli, you don't kill all the jews in town. If you run an Asian fusion restaurant, you don't kill all of the white hipsters in town. Long story short, it's bad form to try and kill your target consumers. China produces cheap crap, and 'Murikans are the white whale of the cheap crap market. Yeah, I know that, you know that, but does some bloodthirsty Chinaman who is 36 years and who has never felt a breast know that? Big ass wars are ultimately about resources and we got a lot of them in the US. Of course, under our economic regime, we will trade resources for money, and while I liek to think our legal system is generally fair, if there is a widespread dust bowl-esque drought or the US imposes export controls on things the Chinese feel liek they rightfully purchased from us (they are moving on ag in a major way), I could see them getting pretty butthurt about it. I think in the next 10-20 years, China will pose a far greater military threat to us than the Soviets ever did because we (well, US multinationals, anyway) gave the Chi-Comms limitless capital and pools of intellectual property the Soviets could have never dreamed of receiving from us. We print bonds and sell them to the Chi-Comms in exchange for iPhones and car parts. I do not believe that will be the perpetual state of affairs. Thankfully, in an oligarchical system like the Chinese, the guys with their finger on the button can get as much fresh trim as they want, while the 30 year old virgins remain virgin because they have no power or authority over anything. However, in your scenario of a cataclysmic drought, well obviously a world wide event like that would have global economic and political complications. However, it has little to do with some Chinaman's untouched boner, as any natural disaster could have unforeseen global ramifications.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 17, 2015 8:58:16 GMT -6
Yeah, I know that, you know that, but does some bloodthirsty Chinaman who is 36 years and who has never felt a breast know that? Big ass wars are ultimately about resources and we got a lot of them in the US. Of course, under our economic regime, we will trade resources for money, and while I liek to think our legal system is generally fair, if there is a widespread dust bowl-esque drought or the US imposes export controls on things the Chinese feel liek they rightfully purchased from us (they are moving on ag in a major way), I could see them getting pretty butthurt about it. I think in the next 10-20 years, China will pose a far greater military threat to us than the Soviets ever did because we (well, US multinationals, anyway) gave the Chi-Comms limitless capital and pools of intellectual property the Soviets could have never dreamed of receiving from us. We print bonds and sell them to the Chi-Comms in exchange for iPhones and car parts. I do not believe that will be the perpetual state of affairs. Thankfully, in an oligarchical system like the Chinese, the guys with their finger on the button can get as much fresh trim as they want, while the 30 year old virgins remain virgin because they have no power or authority over anything. However, in your scenario of a cataclysmic drought, well obviously a world wide event like that would have global economic and political complications. However, it has little to do with some Chinaman's untouched boner, as any natural disaster could have unforeseen global ramifications. The Chinaman's untouched boner is very relevant because when multiplied across tens of millions of untouched boners, it can be used to create a giant army of guys willing to do anything in the hopes of some tang. You have some gals show some leg in propaganda and promise it to the lads when they come home and they'll fucking do anything to get it. You take the average 20 year old in the States who has slayed some tang, has an iPhone and a car and that guy has no god damned reason to fight at all.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Apr 17, 2015 9:15:29 GMT -6
Thankfully, in an oligarchical system like the Chinese, the guys with their finger on the button can get as much fresh trim as they want, while the 30 year old virgins remain virgin because they have no power or authority over anything. However, in your scenario of a cataclysmic drought, well obviously a world wide event like that would have global economic and political complications. However, it has little to do with some Chinaman's untouched boner, as any natural disaster could have unforeseen global ramifications. The Chinaman's untouched boner is very relevant because when multiplied across tens of millions of untouched boners, it can be used to create a giant army of guys willing to do anything in the hopes of some tang. You have some gals show some leg in propaganda and promise it to the lads when they come home and they'll fucking do anything to get it. You take the average 20 year old in the States who has slayed some tang, has an iPhone and a car and that guy has no god damned reason to fight at all. That sounds like moar of a threat to the Chinese oligarchy than some kid boning his girlfriends mom after she gets everyone drunj during nekkid twister. Like I said, the guys in China with the money and the power have access to all of the clunge they need, and they aren't looking to pick a fight with a global super power for no reason. If some angry virgin in China is looking to fuck shit up, he's not going to 'Murika to do it, he's going to Beijing to do it.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Apr 17, 2015 10:03:32 GMT -6
The Chinaman's untouched boner is very relevant because when multiplied across tens of millions of untouched boners, it can be used to create a giant army of guys willing to do anything in the hopes of some tang. You have some gals show some leg in propaganda and promise it to the lads when they come home and they'll fucking do anything to get it. You take the average 20 year old in the States who has slayed some tang, has an iPhone and a car and that guy has no god damned reason to fight at all. That sounds like moar of a threat to the Chinese oligarchy than some kid boning his girlfriends mom after she gets everyone drunj during nekkid twister. Like I said, the guys in China with the money and the power have access to all of the clunge they need, and they aren't looking to pick a fight with a global super power for no reason. If some angry virgin in China is looking to fuck shit up, he's not going to 'Murika to do it, he's going to Beijing to do it. For fucks sake, do you know anything about history? Of course you and me can sit here and say "yeah, China's gonna have an internal problem with all these virginal dudes walking around and their shit ass environment" or whatever other completely ass backwards thing about China we can think of. But when you are the Party, you cannot, and I mean abso-fucking-lutely cannot, blame yourself for any domestic problems. You have to blame someone else. And if your people have a shit life but your economy is number 2, who the fuck are you gonna blame? You're gonna blame the guys with the economies closest in size to yours - they are your main competitors for scarce resources. Just think in your lifetime - remember Japan bashing in the late '80's? A bunch of jobs were lost in the auto industry while GM was rolling classics like the Buick Century/Olds Cutlass Ciera off the assembly lines in record numbers and no one wanted to buy them, preferring instead to buy a Toyota or Honda, which was cheaper and got better gas mileage. So Americans designed shit-ass cars, other Americans built shit-ass cars and still other Americans refused to buy those shit-ass cars, but whose fucking fault was it? Why, by God, it was Japan's fault. It is human nature to blame someone else for your problems and China's propaganda machine has its sights set on the US and Japan. I mean, yeah, I hope you're right and it is a threat to the oligarchy and not an external threat, but the oligarchy's first game plan is gonna be to direct anger toward the outside. And if you're right and say the oligarchy gets toppled and then democracy comes into being. Well frankly, that's prolly scarier than the oligarchy because China has been absolutely dismantled at the hands of foreigners in the past century and a half and some fucking lunatic bellicose orator is gonna take the damned place over.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Apr 17, 2015 10:14:38 GMT -6
That sounds like moar of a threat to the Chinese oligarchy than some kid boning his girlfriends mom after she gets everyone drunj during nekkid twister. Like I said, the guys in China with the money and the power have access to all of the clunge they need, and they aren't looking to pick a fight with a global super power for no reason. If some angry virgin in China is looking to fuck shit up, he's not going to 'Murika to do it, he's going to Beijing to do it. For fucks sake, do you know anything about history? Of course you and me can sit here and say "yeah, China's gonna have an internal problem with all these virginal dudes walking around and their shit ass environment" or whatever other completely ass backwards thing about China we can think of. But when you are the Party, you cannot, and I mean abso-fucking-lutely cannot, blame yourself for any domestic problems. You have to blame someone else. And if your people have a shit life but your economy is number 2, who the fuck are you gonna blame? You're gonna blame the guys with the economies closest in size to yours - they are your main competitors for scarce resources. Just think in your lifetime - remember Japan bashing in the late '80's? A bunch of jobs were lost in the auto industry while GM was rolling classics like the Buick Century/Olds Cutlass Ciera off the assembly lines in record numbers and no one wanted to buy them, preferring instead to buy a Toyota or Honda, which was cheaper and got better gas mileage. So Americans designed shit-ass cars, other Americans built shit-ass cars and still other Americans refused to buy those shit-ass cars, but whose fucking fault was it? Why, by God, it was Japan's fault. It is human nature to blame someone else for your problems and China's propaganda machine has its sights set on the US and Japan. I mean, yeah, I hope you're right and it is a threat to the oligarchy and not an external threat, but the oligarchy's first game plan is gonna be to direct anger toward the outside. And if you're right and say the oligarchy gets toppled and then democracy comes into being. Well frankly, that's prolly scarier than the oligarchy because China has been absolutely dismantled at the hands of foreigners in the past century and a half and some fucking lunatic bellicose orator is gonna take the damned place over. I was by no means saying that the ChiComms being toppled will work out well for anyone. In fact, in your scenario, that would certainly be a threat to the US probably anything larger than the current regime could cook up. However, closing up the circle here, in that the Chinese can only piss off the US (and Europe and Japan) so far before they bring upon greater economic problems than they had to begin with. Again, the ChiComms probably aren't going to react to economic depression by alienating their consumers. If they get aggressive towards the US, who the fuck are they going to trade with? Russia, Venezuela, and Iran?
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