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Post by socal on Jun 24, 2022 15:27:03 GMT -6
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Post by Other on Jun 24, 2022 17:29:04 GMT -6
Serious question: Do you think a shootin' war is on the horizon? I'm seriously starting to wonder. Yes. Me too.
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Post by LansingHawk on Jun 24, 2022 17:37:35 GMT -6
Serious question: Do you think a shootin' war is on the horizon? I'm seriously starting to wonder. Yes. I gotta go buy a fucking gun.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 24, 2022 17:38:42 GMT -6
Yes, because Griswold hinges on the same faulty ideological bedrock that Roe was built upon. A prior court made up a new constitutional right that isn't in the document. That said, in order for Griswold to be overturned some state would have to create a statute restricting birth control, which I believe even in the deepest red states is highly unlikely. The other two cases should definitely be safe on Equal Protection Clause grounds. Just to be clear, said document was written exclusively by wealthy white men (many of whom owned other humans) in a time before the Coloreds (again, many of whom were owned by said wealthy white men) and women even had a right to vote or were considered full citizens under said document. At least the blacks got a shout out in the constitution, what with being granted 3/5 personhood. Women didn't even get that courtesy, nor were they referenced at all. They were considered property. You know, the same way the fascist fucks on SCrOTUS consider them today. Now, for the record, and because I know y'all expect this from me, here's the good stuff: If my daughter were ever raped, and she was forced by the state to carry that pregnancy (which wouldn't happen, because I'd make arrangements,) yes, I would in fact hunt down, torture, and dispatch of as many right wing elected office holders as I could. Just brutal, brutal, dispatches. One of mine to the hospital, ten of yours to the morgue, motherfuckers. Oh by the way I stocked up on more ammo last night. 00 buckshot. It'll make my Benelli sing. Look, I know you hated the 3/5ths Compromise. You wanted slaves counted as whole people so that Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina would have collectively dominated the House and Electoral College. It would have been great for America. Another fatal flaw of the Constitution is it didn't mention transgender people. That alone renders the entire document obsolete in my opinion. Anyway, you talk about that Benelli a lot. I know you're satisfied with the appreciation in price that you have experienced because quality pieces like that have really gone up over the past few years, but the number of times you mention it and it alone makes me wonder if you have developed a personal Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan. The Summer of Love back in 2020 should have shown every American the importance of Diversity, Inclusion and Equity. I am a pacifist and the small collection of firearms I had was lost in a tragic boating accident, but if I did have firearms, I would most certainly craft my own Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan to ensure that I had firearms chambered in various calibers to ensure that I could cope with shortages and take advantage of flash sales of ammo in any and all common calibers. Americans like you are stronger when you have everything covered from .22 up to .30-06 if you can handle it (otherwise replace it with the caliber you can most comfortably handle). I would add 50 cal to the list, but after the Summer of Love those prices are now in excess of decent used cars and outside the reach of the common man. But the point is, diversity is our strength and it should be embraced. You don't have to take my word for it. Even this guy from the Army agrees.
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Post by LansingHawk on Jun 24, 2022 17:41:34 GMT -6
Just to be clear, said document was written exclusively by wealthy white men (many of whom owned other humans) in a time before the Coloreds (again, many of whom were owned by said wealthy white men) and women even had a right to vote or were considered full citizens under said document. At least the blacks got a shout out in the constitution, what with being granted 3/5 personhood. Women didn't even get that courtesy, nor were they referenced at all. They were considered property. You know, the same way the fascist fucks on SCrOTUS consider them today. Now, for the record, and because I know y'all expect this from me, here's the good stuff: If my daughter were ever raped, and she was forced by the state to carry that pregnancy (which wouldn't happen, because I'd make arrangements,) yes, I would in fact hunt down, torture, and dispatch of as many right wing elected office holders as I could. Just brutal, brutal, dispatches. One of mine to the hospital, ten of yours to the morgue, motherfuckers. Oh by the way I stocked up on more ammo last night. 00 buckshot. It'll make my Benelli sing. Look, I know you hated the 3/5ths Compromise. You wanted slaves counted as whole people so that Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina would have collectively dominated the House and Electoral College. It would have been great for America. Another fatal flaw of the Constitution is it didn't mention transgender people. That alone renders the entire document obsolete in my opinion. Anyway, you talk about that Benelli a lot. I know you're satisfied with the appreciation in price that you have experienced because quality pieces like that have really gone up over the past few years, but the number of times you mention it and it alone makes me wonder if you have developed a personal Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan. The Summer of Love back in 2020 should have shown every American the importance of Diversity, Inclusion and Equity. I am a pacifist and the small collection of firearms I had was lost in a tragic boating accident, but if I did have firearms, I would most certainly craft my own Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan to ensure that I had firearms chambered in various calibers to ensure that I could cope with shortages and take advantage of flash sales of ammo in any and all common calibers. Americans like you are stronger when you have everything covered from .22 up to .30-06 if you can handle it (otherwise replace it with the caliber you can most comfortably handle). I would add 50 cal to the list, but after the Summer of Love those prices are now in excess of decent used cars and outside the reach of the common man. But the point is, diversity is our strength and it should be embraced. You don't have to take my word for it. Even this guy from the Army agrees. Just curious, anyone ever mention you're a fucking dick?
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 24, 2022 17:54:01 GMT -6
I gotta go buy a fucking gun. Good luck. A dude at the gun store by my house told me a few weeks ago that they were shipping 7 tractor trailers full per day through their internet business (located at their warehouse in Columbia, SC) and that they were so backed up that the UPS facility in Columbia couldn't handle it all and turned them away. My guess is they're gonna have to end up trucking everything to Atlanta because it has a much bigger UPS facility, but there are bottlenecks like that all over the place and with diesel hovering near $6 a gallon even in our cheap gas region that would get real pricey real quick. Better hope you have a well stocked store near you. And don't forget your ammo. And be careful buying anything chambered in 5.56 or .223. 30% of the national retail supply comes from a facility in Utah that is owned by the government and Quid Pro Joe ordered them to stop selling their surplus into the retail channel. And oh yeah, anti-free trade Quid Pro Joe is embargoing Russia so 7.62 x 39 is also in short supply until TulAmmo gets their Chinese factory stood up. Once the TulAmmo on the shelves today is gone, it's freaking gone and there are no guarantees how good the Chinese stuff will be.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 24, 2022 18:03:39 GMT -6
Just to be clear, said document was written exclusively by wealthy white men (many of whom owned other humans) in a time before the Coloreds (again, many of whom were owned by said wealthy white men) and women even had a right to vote or were considered full citizens under said document. At least the blacks got a shout out in the constitution, what with being granted 3/5 personhood. Women didn't even get that courtesy, nor were they referenced at all. They were considered property. You know, the same way the fascist fucks on SCrOTUS consider them today. Now, for the record, and because I know y'all expect this from me, here's the good stuff: If my daughter were ever raped, and she was forced by the state to carry that pregnancy (which wouldn't happen, because I'd make arrangements,) yes, I would in fact hunt down, torture, and dispatch of as many right wing elected office holders as I could. Just brutal, brutal, dispatches. One of mine to the hospital, ten of yours to the morgue, motherfuckers. Oh by the way I stocked up on more ammo last night. 00 buckshot. It'll make my Benelli sing. Serious question: Do you think a shootin' war is on the horizon? I'm seriously starting to wonder. No. If everyone is fed everything will be fine. If fertilizer prices stay astronomically high and the 2023 crop is impaired, serious civil instability could follow, but I suspect that the US would be okay in such a scenario because even with a diminished crop output it should be more than enough to feed all Americans. Of course, that assumes the government doesn't do something stupid like goosing up the quantity of corn we turn into ethanol, but the nation has rid itself of the fascist dictator and the science backed people running things now who have great foresight would never do something so stupid. abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/epa-raises-amount-ethanol-blended-gas-85186380
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 24, 2022 18:08:01 GMT -6
Serious question: Do you think a shootin' war is on the horizon? I'm seriously starting to wonder. Yes. Really? Who would the combatants be? Is some massive group of post modern leftists covered in neon dildos going to show up armed at the capitol of Texas, Alabama or South Carolina and take over the state government to preserve the right to second trimester abortion?
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Post by Other on Jun 24, 2022 18:43:11 GMT -6
Look, I know you hated the 3/5ths Compromise. You wanted slaves counted as whole people so that Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina would have collectively dominated the House and Electoral College. It would have been great for America. Another fatal flaw of the Constitution is it didn't mention transgender people. That alone renders the entire document obsolete in my opinion. Anyway, you talk about that Benelli a lot. I know you're satisfied with the appreciation in price that you have experienced because quality pieces like that have really gone up over the past few years, but the number of times you mention it and it alone makes me wonder if you have developed a personal Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan. The Summer of Love back in 2020 should have shown every American the importance of Diversity, Inclusion and Equity. I am a pacifist and the small collection of firearms I had was lost in a tragic boating accident, but if I did have firearms, I would most certainly craft my own Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan to ensure that I had firearms chambered in various calibers to ensure that I could cope with shortages and take advantage of flash sales of ammo in any and all common calibers. Americans like you are stronger when you have everything covered from .22 up to .30-06 if you can handle it (otherwise replace it with the caliber you can most comfortably handle). I would add 50 cal to the list, but after the Summer of Love those prices are now in excess of decent used cars and outside the reach of the common man. But the point is, diversity is our strength and it should be embraced. You don't have to take my word for it. Even this guy from the Army agrees. Just curious, anyone ever mention you're a fucking dick? Frequently
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 24, 2022 22:27:30 GMT -6
I gotta go buy a fucking gun. Good luck. A dude at the gun store by my house told me a few weeks ago that they were shipping 7 tractor trailers full per day through their internet business (located at their warehouse in Columbia, SC) and that they were so backed up that the UPS facility in Columbia couldn't handle it all and turned them away. My guess is they're gonna have to end up trucking everything to Atlanta because it has a much bigger UPS facility, but there are bottlenecks like that all over the place and with diesel hovering near $6 a gallon even in our cheap gas region that would get real pricey real quick. Better hope you have a well stocked store near you. And don't forget your ammo. And be careful buying anything chambered in 5.56 or .223. 30% of the national retail supply comes from a facility in Utah that is owned by the government and Quid Pro Joe ordered them to stop selling their surplus into the retail channel. And oh yeah, anti-free trade Quid Pro Joe is embargoing Russia so 7.62 x 39 is also in short supply until TulAmmo gets their Chinese factory stood up. Once the TulAmmo on the shelves today is gone, it's freaking gone and there are no guarantees how good the Chinese stuff will be. You know why he ordered them to refrain from selling surplus, right? Right? Please fucking tell me that you know why.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 24, 2022 22:31:11 GMT -6
Really? Who would the combatants be? Is some massive group of post modern leftists covered in neon dildos going to show up armed at the capitol of Texas, Alabama or South Carolina and take over the state government to preserve the right to second trimester abortion? No it’ll be guys like me protecting their daughters from fascists. I’ll fucking kill anyone who tries to oppress her.
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Post by twinlaker on Jun 25, 2022 0:45:28 GMT -6
Look, I know you hated the 3/5ths Compromise. You wanted slaves counted as whole people so that Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina would have collectively dominated the House and Electoral College. It would have been great for America. Another fatal flaw of the Constitution is it didn't mention transgender people. That alone renders the entire document obsolete in my opinion. Anyway, you talk about that Benelli a lot. I know you're satisfied with the appreciation in price that you have experienced because quality pieces like that have really gone up over the past few years, but the number of times you mention it and it alone makes me wonder if you have developed a personal Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan. The Summer of Love back in 2020 should have shown every American the importance of Diversity, Inclusion and Equity. I am a pacifist and the small collection of firearms I had was lost in a tragic boating accident, but if I did have firearms, I would most certainly craft my own Diversity Inclusion and Equity action plan to ensure that I had firearms chambered in various calibers to ensure that I could cope with shortages and take advantage of flash sales of ammo in any and all common calibers. Americans like you are stronger when you have everything covered from .22 up to .30-06 if you can handle it (otherwise replace it with the caliber you can most comfortably handle). I would add 50 cal to the list, but after the Summer of Love those prices are now in excess of decent used cars and outside the reach of the common man. But the point is, diversity is our strength and it should be embraced. You don't have to take my word for it. Even this guy from the Army agrees. Just curious, anyone ever mention you're a fucking dick? I know, right? Just makes you want to backhand him and send him back to the kid’s table.
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Post by LansingHawk on Jun 25, 2022 4:55:21 GMT -6
I gotta go buy a fucking gun. Good luck. A dude at the gun store by my house told me a few weeks ago that they were shipping 7 tractor trailers full per day through their internet business (located at their warehouse in Columbia, SC) and that they were so backed up that the UPS facility in Columbia couldn't handle it all and turned them away. My guess is they're gonna have to end up trucking everything to Atlanta because it has a much bigger UPS facility, but there are bottlenecks like that all over the place and with diesel hovering near $6 a gallon even in our cheap gas region that would get real pricey real quick. Better hope you have a well stocked store near you. And don't forget your ammo. And be careful buying anything chambered in 5.56 or .223. 30% of the national retail supply comes from a facility in Utah that is owned by the government and Quid Pro Joe ordered them to stop selling their surplus into the retail channel. And oh yeah, anti-free trade Quid Pro Joe is embargoing Russia so 7.62 x 39 is also in short supply until TulAmmo gets their Chinese factory stood up. Once the TulAmmo on the shelves today is gone, it's freaking gone and there are no guarantees how good the Chinese stuff will be. I was thinking more along the lines of a 12 ga. pump. Not even an expensive one. Simple and effective.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 25, 2022 6:24:10 GMT -6
Good luck. A dude at the gun store by my house told me a few weeks ago that they were shipping 7 tractor trailers full per day through their internet business (located at their warehouse in Columbia, SC) and that they were so backed up that the UPS facility in Columbia couldn't handle it all and turned them away. My guess is they're gonna have to end up trucking everything to Atlanta because it has a much bigger UPS facility, but there are bottlenecks like that all over the place and with diesel hovering near $6 a gallon even in our cheap gas region that would get real pricey real quick. Better hope you have a well stocked store near you. And don't forget your ammo. And be careful buying anything chambered in 5.56 or .223. 30% of the national retail supply comes from a facility in Utah that is owned by the government and Quid Pro Joe ordered them to stop selling their surplus into the retail channel. And oh yeah, anti-free trade Quid Pro Joe is embargoing Russia so 7.62 x 39 is also in short supply until TulAmmo gets their Chinese factory stood up. Once the TulAmmo on the shelves today is gone, it's freaking gone and there are no guarantees how good the Chinese stuff will be. I was thinking more along the lines of a 12 ga. pump. Not even an expensive one. Simple and effective. I can assure you there’s plenty of 12G ammo available, and it’ll get the job done
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 25, 2022 8:12:11 GMT -6
Really? Who would the combatants be? Is some massive group of post modern leftists covered in neon dildos going to show up armed at the capitol of Texas, Alabama or South Carolina and take over the state government to preserve the right to second trimester abortion? No it’ll be guys like me protecting their daughters from fascists. I’ll fucking kill anyone who tries to oppress her. Who are these "fascists?" Are they in the room with you now?
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 25, 2022 8:17:22 GMT -6
Just curious, anyone ever mention you're a fucking dick? I know, right? Just makes you want to backhand him and send him back to the kid’s table. Why are you so angry? Roe would have been overturned in the '80's or '90's had Reagan and Pappy Bush not been hoodwinked by a couple of SCOTUS nominees. You should celebrate that it lasted as long as it did.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 25, 2022 10:30:13 GMT -6
No it’ll be guys like me protecting their daughters from fascists. I’ll fucking kill anyone who tries to oppress her. Who are these "fascists?" Are they in the room with you now? No but they’ll be descending on Des Moines for the next legislative session and I’ll be here waiting for them.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 27, 2022 12:27:08 GMT -6
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Post by Stan's Field on Jun 29, 2022 12:17:21 GMT -6
Why? I doubt that abortion rights in Minnesota will be changed in any material fashion. Pull up the 2020 presidential electoral map. If a state on there is red, there is a high chance there is gonna be prompt legislative action substantially curtailing abortion access. Most of the states that are blue won't have restrictions, with the possible exception of WI, MI, PA, GA and AZ. The classic conservative thought process of 'Nothing is ever a problem until its a problem for me.' Pritty fucking much, hate to say it, but pritty fucking gawd damn much... My dad rents his old house out to a nice, but ridiculously red-necked, son of an equally red-necked neighbor that he's close to. My dad and this neighbor are obvs both "Independents" who vote straight ticket R...and proud of it types. Said redneck son's live-in GF, with whom he has 2 kids with now, recently quit her job to collect welfare or the like, I guess, honestly not sure what their game is so we'll call it welfare. They told my dad they're never getting married because she wants to keep collecting it. I asked my dad how the father-in-law feels about this, knowing he hates anyone who mooches off the govt... Said redneck son's Daddy, recall he's die-hard R who hates anyone mooching off the Govt, "isn't sure how he feels about this"..... I guess it's kind of a problem for him now, but a problem he won't bring up much in front of friends.
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Post by Ginger on Jun 30, 2022 6:13:55 GMT -6
So these anti abortion states are trying to figure out ways to keep women from traveling to other states to get abortions.
Women truly are not free in this country. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness do not apply to women.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 30, 2022 6:44:14 GMT -6
So these anti abortion states are trying to figure out ways to keep women from traveling to other states to get abortions. Women truly are not free in this country. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness do not apply to women. Well this is a helluva pickle. Prior to 2020 I would have said there is absolutely no doubt that there is a fundamental right to travel between states as part of the Comity Clause. But then a bunch of states started banning interstate travel during The Germ. I was opposed to those interstate travel bans in 2020 and I am still opposed to them for this. Prima facie unconstitutional in my book and I suspect the SCOTUS would agree 9-0. This is a bad idea.
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Post by Other on Jun 30, 2022 8:07:43 GMT -6
SCOTUS is no longer basing their decisions on the rule of law but instead on their own religious beliefs so I have zero confidence they will do any such thing.
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Post by Ginger on Jun 30, 2022 13:46:59 GMT -6
He almost gets it.
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Post by Other on Jul 1, 2022 19:52:32 GMT -6
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Post by Ginger on Jul 2, 2022 10:53:48 GMT -6
Rumor is she was able to get to Indiana.
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