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Post by Ginger on Feb 11, 2023 18:34:46 GMT -6
What do you all think about the objects being shot down ?
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MFUFO
Feb 11, 2023 18:38:05 GMT -6
Post by Ginger on Feb 11, 2023 18:38:05 GMT -6
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Post by Ginger on Feb 11, 2023 18:45:40 GMT -6
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Post by Other on Feb 11, 2023 19:14:19 GMT -6
I have no doubt it will be something boring But I have to say they are acting weird in not identifying it.
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Feb 11, 2023 19:31:25 GMT -6
Post by Ginger on Feb 11, 2023 19:31:25 GMT -6
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Feb 11, 2023 20:32:21 GMT -6
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Post by Other on Feb 11, 2023 20:32:21 GMT -6
Sorry but if this was actually anything interesting you never would have heard about it. This is bullshit.
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MFUFO
Feb 11, 2023 21:26:32 GMT -6
Post by thunderhawk on Feb 11, 2023 21:26:32 GMT -6
Sorry but if this was actually anything interesting you never would have heard about it. This is bullshit. The government buries anything "actually interesting." That's not conspiracy theory bullshit, that's official policy. They must have reported this out because it had already become public. About 5% of verified governmental documented UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) remain unexplained/unsolved after extensive investigation and systematic causal elimination. The majority of these unexplained observations are military encounters (pilots and radar operations) and the remainder are law enforcement. The "it was hovering over ma house in Idaho!" claims aren't included in the database unless corroborated by some governmental entity. The Arctic regions seem to have a disproportionate share of these encounters/observations. They don't speak publicly about it, because what the fuck are they gonna say. If some alien intelligence is examining us it would make sense for them to send the functional equivalent of robots, considering the vast distances and speeds required to get here. Hell, we send probes to other planets, so it's logical that they would as well. Here's a recent NYT article that touches on this issue: We admire what the great anthropologist Margaret Mead said when asked long ago whether she believed in U.F.O.s. She called it “a silly question,” writing in Redbook in 1974:
“Belief has to do with matters of faith; it has nothing to do with the kind of knowledge that is based on scientific inquiry. … Do people believe in the sun or the moon, or the changing seasons, or the chairs they’re sitting on? When we want to understand something strange, something previously unknown to anyone, we have to begin with an entirely different set of questions. What is it? How does it work?”
That’s what the Pentagon U.F.O. program has been focusing on, making it eminently newsworthy. And to be clear: U.F.O.s don’t mean aliens. Unidentified means we don’t know what they are, only that they demonstrate capabilities that do not appear to be possible through currently available technology.
In our reporting, we’ve focused on how the Department of Defense, the Office of Naval Intelligence and members of two Senate committees are engaged with this topic. Current officials are now concerned about the potential threat represented by the very real, advanced technological objects: how close they can come to our fighter jets, sometimes causing a near miss, and the risk that our adversaries may acquire the technology demonstrated by the objects before we do.
So if U.F.O.s are no longer a matter of belief, what are they and how do they do what they do?
And if technology has been retrieved from downed objects, what better way to try to understand how they work?
www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/insider/UFO-reporting.html
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Post by thunderhawk on Feb 11, 2023 21:51:33 GMT -6
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Feb 11, 2023 23:46:38 GMT -6
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Post by Other on Feb 11, 2023 23:46:38 GMT -6
I’m guessing the two most recent objects were balloons that were part of a penetration testing campaign by the Chinese.
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Feb 11, 2023 23:46:55 GMT -6
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Post by Other on Feb 11, 2023 23:46:55 GMT -6
You get it. Fucking death cults.
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Feb 12, 2023 9:49:39 GMT -6
Post by NOTTHOR on Feb 12, 2023 9:49:39 GMT -6
I’m guessing the two most recent objects were balloons that were part of a penetration testing campaign by the Chinese. That'll probably be the official story. You don't want to look stupid when you get caught shooting down University of Oslo's Arctic ice monitoring balloon or whatever. In most of the "crises" our media spoonfeeds us I am more concerned with our reaction as a society than I am with the actual crisis. This particular crisis will presumably lead to predictable calls to "do something." Which in turn will lead to tense negotiations over whether the "balloon defense" rider tacked on to the next omnibus spending plan needs to be $68 billion or $72 billion.
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Post by LansingHawk on Feb 12, 2023 10:05:00 GMT -6
I’m guessing the two most recent objects were balloons that were part of a penetration testing campaign by the Chinese. That'll probably be the official story. You don't want to look stupid when you get caught shooting down University of Oslo's Arctic ice monitoring balloon or whatever. In most of the "crises" our media spoonfeeds us I am more concerned with our reaction as a society than I am with the actual crisis. This particular crisis will presumably lead to predictable calls to "do something." Which in turn will lead to tense negotiations over whether the "balloon defense" rider tacked on to the next omnibus spending plan needs to be $68 billion or $72 billion. It doesn't seem as though society takes any of this too seriously, other than some faux outraged GOP nutcase politicians.
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Feb 12, 2023 10:18:37 GMT -6
Post by NOTTHOR on Feb 12, 2023 10:18:37 GMT -6
That'll probably be the official story. You don't want to look stupid when you get caught shooting down University of Oslo's Arctic ice monitoring balloon or whatever. In most of the "crises" our media spoonfeeds us I am more concerned with our reaction as a society than I am with the actual crisis. This particular crisis will presumably lead to predictable calls to "do something." Which in turn will lead to tense negotiations over whether the "balloon defense" rider tacked on to the next omnibus spending plan needs to be $68 billion or $72 billion. It doesn't seem as though society takes any of this too seriously, other than some faux outraged GOP nutcase politicians. Yeah, you're right. That would explain why Trudeau gave a shootdown order. No bigger GOP nutcase than that guy.
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Post by Other on Feb 12, 2023 13:19:20 GMT -6
It doesn't seem as though society takes any of this too seriously, other than some faux outraged GOP nutcase politicians. Yeah, you're right. That would explain why Trudeau gave a shootdown order. No bigger GOP nutcase than that guy. You’re conflating two completely separate things. Trudeau and Biden doing what’s right (removing a hazard to airline travel) and faux GOP outrage about whatever. Do better.
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MFUFO
Feb 12, 2023 15:22:40 GMT -6
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Post by Ginger on Feb 12, 2023 15:22:40 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on Feb 12, 2023 17:54:34 GMT -6
It doesn't seem as though society takes any of this too seriously, other than some faux outraged GOP nutcase politicians. Yeah, you're right. That would explain why Trudeau gave a shootdown order. No bigger GOP nutcase than that guy. You’re conflating action with manufactured faux overreaction
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Feb 12, 2023 18:10:42 GMT -6
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Feb 12, 2023 18:10:42 GMT -6
Conflating? You mean these balloons are originating in prisons.
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MFUFO
Feb 13, 2023 7:12:00 GMT -6
Post by NOTTHOR on Feb 13, 2023 7:12:00 GMT -6
Yeah, you're right. That would explain why Trudeau gave a shootdown order. No bigger GOP nutcase than that guy. You’re conflating action with manufactured faux overreaction Oh, sorry. Please outline the proper response for me so I can understand the latest and greatest in Baizuo thinking. Decades of life, zero balloons shot down. Past week and a half, four shot down. I don't watch the news so I don't know who is supposedly overreacting. Are you suggesting that Biden is shooting balloons down now in response to GOP overreactions? That seems odd, especially when Schumer is spiking the football about humiliating the Chinese by demonstrating that we can spend millions of dollars to shoot down their fifty dollar balloons.
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Feb 13, 2023 8:44:20 GMT -6
Post by Stan's Field on Feb 13, 2023 8:44:20 GMT -6
Sorry but if this was actually anything interesting you never would have heard about it. This is bullshit. The government buries anything "actually interesting." That's not conspiracy theory bullshit, that's official policy. They must have reported this out because it had already become public. About 5% of verified governmental documented UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) remain unexplained/unsolved after extensive investigation and systematic causal elimination. The majority of these unexplained observations are military encounters (pilots and radar operations) and the remainder are law enforcement. The "it was hovering over ma house in Idaho!" claims aren't included in the database unless corroborated by some governmental entity. The Arctic regions seem to have a disproportionate share of these encounters/observations. They don't speak publicly about it, because what the fuck are they gonna say. If some alien intelligence is examining us it would make sense for them to send the functional equivalent of robots, considering the vast distances and speeds required to get here. Hell, we send probes to other planets, so it's logical that they would as well. Here's a recent NYT article that touches on this issue: We admire what the great anthropologist Margaret Mead said when asked long ago whether she believed in U.F.O.s. She called it “a silly question,” writing in Redbook in 1974:
“Belief has to do with matters of faith; it has nothing to do with the kind of knowledge that is based on scientific inquiry. … Do people believe in the sun or the moon, or the changing seasons, or the chairs they’re sitting on? When we want to understand something strange, something previously unknown to anyone, we have to begin with an entirely different set of questions. What is it? How does it work?”
That’s what the Pentagon U.F.O. program has been focusing on, making it eminently newsworthy. And to be clear: U.F.O.s don’t mean aliens. Unidentified means we don’t know what they are, only that they demonstrate capabilities that do not appear to be possible through currently available technology.
In our reporting, we’ve focused on how the Department of Defense, the Office of Naval Intelligence and members of two Senate committees are engaged with this topic. Current officials are now concerned about the potential threat represented by the very real, advanced technological objects: how close they can come to our fighter jets, sometimes causing a near miss, and the risk that our adversaries may acquire the technology demonstrated by the objects before we do.
So if U.F.O.s are no longer a matter of belief, what are they and how do they do what they do?
And if technology has been retrieved from downed objects, what better way to try to understand how they work?
www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/insider/UFO-reporting.htmlThat's the part that gets me.... Over the years everyone has acted too silly about these things. We put so much faith in our military to know what's going on, and to withhold stuff from us that we cannot handle, and they legit don't know WTF is going as evidenced by flight recordings on some of the encounters. If it's visitors from another world, it's a BFD. IF it's technology of unknown origin that the military and the scientific community cannot explain with current physics, it's a BIG FUCKING DEAL.
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MFUFO
Feb 13, 2023 8:49:57 GMT -6
Post by Stan's Field on Feb 13, 2023 8:49:57 GMT -6
I don't want/need some sensational thing about any of this to be true for a sci-fi fix, either...
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Feb 13, 2023 8:53:03 GMT -6
Post by Stan's Field on Feb 13, 2023 8:53:03 GMT -6
I’m guessing the two most recent objects were balloons that were part of a penetration testing campaign by the Chinese. That'll probably be the official story. You don't want to look stupid when you get caught shooting down University of Oslo's Arctic ice monitoring balloon or whatever. In most of the "crises" our media spoonfeeds us I am more concerned with our reaction as a society than I am with the actual crisis. This particular crisis will presumably lead to predictable calls to "do something." Which in turn will lead to tense negotiations over whether the "balloon defense" rider tacked on to the next omnibus spending plan needs to be $68 billion or $72 billion. As long as Northrop gets additional contracts worth 5-10 Billion to research weird thingies in the sky, and little to no supervision on how the money gets used, meaning it doesn't matter if they figer it owt, then I'll sleep good at night.
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MFUFO
Feb 13, 2023 9:34:35 GMT -6
Post by NOTTHOR on Feb 13, 2023 9:34:35 GMT -6
That'll probably be the official story. You don't want to look stupid when you get caught shooting down University of Oslo's Arctic ice monitoring balloon or whatever. In most of the "crises" our media spoonfeeds us I am more concerned with our reaction as a society than I am with the actual crisis. This particular crisis will presumably lead to predictable calls to "do something." Which in turn will lead to tense negotiations over whether the "balloon defense" rider tacked on to the next omnibus spending plan needs to be $68 billion or $72 billion. As long as Northrop gets additional contracts worth 5-10 Billion to research weird thingies in the sky, and little to no supervision on how the money gets used, meaning it doesn't matter if they figer it owt, then I'll sleep good at night. Not me. Raytheon and Boeing gotta eat, too. Come on man.
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MFUFO
Feb 13, 2023 13:48:56 GMT -6
Post by egadsto on Feb 13, 2023 13:48:56 GMT -6
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Feb 16, 2023 17:12:47 GMT -6
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