When you will receive your tax rebate

[hawkeyescott]

Below is a schedule for the issuance of the Tax Relief Checks this summer.

Last 2 digits of your SSN---- Receive your check by week of
00 - 09 July 23
10 - 19 July 30
20 - 29 August 6
30 - 39 August 13
40 - 49 August 20
50 - 59 August 27
60 - 69 Sept 3
70 - 79 Sept 10
80 - 89 Sept 17
90 - 99 Sept 24

[TBELL]

Sept 3rd looks like a good week to me.

[hawkeyescott]

Actually I was just informed that these dates may be from the one in 2001 and the actually checks this year may still start in May.

[Iowafan1]

I am hearing that I won't be getting one at all.....those BASTARDS!!!!!

[MoHawk]

iowafan1 said:

I am hearing that I won't be getting one at all.....those BASTARDS!!!!!

Did you make less than 3 grand last year? That's the only way you wouldn't get one...assuming you filed a tax return for 2007

[Iowafan1]

missourihawk said:

iowafan1 said:

I am hearing that I won't be getting one at all.....those BASTARDS!!!!!

Did you make less than 3 grand last year? That's the only way you wouldn't get one...assuming you filed a tax return for 2007

digits.hrblock.com/taxrebate/

"Tax rebates (also referred to as "payments") are reduced by five percent for each $1,000 of Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) over $75,000 for individuals and over $150,000 for joint returns. For taxpayers without children, the maximum payment is fully phased out at $87,000 and at $174,000 for joint returns."

[Master Blaster]

Cool. I am going to be in a tax free area when I get mine. No declared income.

[Chuck Storm]

May 5, two thousand and never. F***ing democrats.

Oh, but I'm sure this "stimulus" is exactly what the economy needs. I'm sure these payments will cure the credit markets and failed variable rate auctions right away.

[NOTTHOR]

The only thing this package will do is get poors to buy HDTVs and Blu Ray players. Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart and Target will see increased sales for a few months. The jobs to build all of that crap are in China, so it will certainly stimulate the Chinese economy and create a little bubble for $7/hr jobs at big box retailers. And oh yeah, it will add to the tax burden of the "rich." It's funny how Messrs. Hussein and Clinton think that this tax cut will revitalize the economy, yet they both support tax increases.

[MoHawk]

I actually agree with you on this ralph. This "stimulus" won't do shit to help the economy...maybe give it a very small, meaningless boost.

However, what it WILL do is pay for my weekend trip to Chicago the second weekend in August.

In the parlance of our times, "Holla atcha boyee".

[NOTTHOR]

Str8 cash homey. Hit me up. Don't forget to bring a little extra cash to pay for Todd Stroger and his big government Democrat allies' new cars with that 10.25% sales tax.

[Norm "racerhawk" Parker]

bigtimeralph said:

The only thing this package will do is get poors to buy HDTVs and Blu Ray players. Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart and Target will see increased sales for a few months. The jobs to build all of that crap are in China, so it will certainly stimulate the Chinese economy and create a little bubble for $7/hr jobs at big box retailers. And oh yeah, it will add to the tax burden of the "rich." It's funny how Messrs. Hussein and Clinton think that this tax cut will revitalize the economy, yet they both support tax increases.

I agree. The poors will run out and spend it on Chinese products. Others will use it to pay off debt or god fobid, save it.
So, the government goes into further debt, we increase the inbalance with China, and the world keeps spinning.

I agree that ALL of the candidates (for obvious political reasons) are saying this package is a good idea, but BTR, wasn't this a repubican idea in the first place? Nice try at spinning, though. You'd be a good politician yourself

[Norm "racerhawk" Parker]

I'm excited bout getting a "lifetime learning credit" for being back in school again. 2 grand. That will help the return a lot.

Hey, BTR, you bought a big TV awhile back, didn't you? What do you recommend?

[Iowafan1]

superracerhawk said:

bigtimeralph said:

The only thing this package will do is get poors to buy HDTVs and Blu Ray players. Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart and Target will see increased sales for a few months. The jobs to build all of that crap are in China, so it will certainly stimulate the Chinese economy and create a little bubble for $7/hr jobs at big box retailers. And oh yeah, it will add to the tax burden of the "rich." It's funny how Messrs. Hussein and Clinton think that this tax cut will revitalize the economy, yet they both support tax increases.

I agree. The poors will run out and spend it on Chinese products. Others will use it to pay off debt or god fobid, save it.
So, the government goes into further debt, we increase the inbalance with China, and the world keeps spinning.

I agree that ALL of the candidates (for obvious political reasons) are saying this package is a good idea, but BTR, wasn't this a repubican idea in the first place? Nice try at spinning, though. You'd be a good politician yourself

Racer, whats up Bro? Little clarification required for your preface. Both the Democrats and the Republicans have lost most of their relevance. The Democrats after JFK and the Republicans after GB1. For over 40 years, Democrats have stood for "take from those who earn and give to those who don't", a philosophy which has never succeeded in any country, much less the U.S.A. Republicans used to fly the Conservative banner, but more and more everyday, they have started behaving as liberal as the Democrats they run against. So, in a sense, you are correct in saying the Republicans started it. In the view of Conservatives though, todays Republicans are nothing more than RINO's, starting with GW2 at the top of the list. They all suck donkey nuts. One day, we will all see what the politics of dependency will bring this Country....and it won't be good.

[NOTTHOR]

I wholeheartedly cosign iowafan's post.

Yes, smedium racerhawk, the Repubs cooked up the plan to give the tax rebate, as cutting taxes is a Republican mantra. However, the Democrats cooked up the idea that the "rich" don't deserve it and widened the spread of taxes paid by rich and poor. If you paid a lot of taxes, you get nothing. If paid no taxes, you get a few hundred bucks. Only in the Marxist, twisted, liberal-fascist Democratic peabrain does such logic make sense, but hey, what can we expect from guys like you whose mantra is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need?"

[Norm "racerhawk" Parker]

bigtimeralph said:

I wholeheartedly cosign iowafan's post.

Yes, smedium racerhawk, the Repubs cooked up the plan to give the tax rebate, as cutting taxes is a Republican mantra. However, the Democrats cooked up the idea that the "rich" don't deserve it and widened the spread of taxes paid by rich and poor. If you paid a lot of taxes, you get nothing. If paid no taxes, you get a few hundred bucks. Only in the Marxist, twisted, liberal-fascist Democratic peabrain does such logic make sense, but hey, what can we expect from guys like you whose mantra is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need?"

I hear ya. Is that Rawls' principle of Justice and Fairness? I seem to remember that shiznit from my oxymoronic "business ethics" class. Kidding. I know it's that Karl guy.

If you believe in domestic human services, does that make you a marxist? Is all of Europe and Canada Marxist???

If so, are you a fascist?

Personally, in this upcoming election, I like no one.

P

[Norm "racerhawk" Parker]

iowafan1 said:

superracerhawk said:

I agree. The poors will run out and spend it on Chinese products. Others will use it to pay off debt or god fobid, save it.
So, the government goes into further debt, we increase the inbalance with China, and the world keeps spinning.

I agree that ALL of the candidates (for obvious political reasons) are saying this package is a good idea, but BTR, wasn't this a repubican idea in the first place? Nice try at spinning, though. You'd be a good politician yourself

Racer, whats up Bro? Little clarification required for your preface. Both the Democrats and the Republicans have lost most of their relevance. The Democrats after JFK and the Republicans after GB1. For over 40 years, Democrats have stood for "take from those who earn and give to those who don't", a philosophy which has never succeeded in any country, much less the U.S.A. Republicans used to fly the Conservative banner, but more and more everyday, they have started behaving as liberal as the Democrats they run against. So, in a sense, you are correct in saying the Republicans started it. In the view of Conservatives though, todays Republicans are nothing more than RINO's, starting with GW2 at the top of the list. They all suck donkey nuts. One day, we will all see what the politics of dependency will bring this Country....and it won't be good.

Hey, Iafan...just hanging out on another brutally cold Shitcago day. Whether dem or repub (both parties of big government as dweebnutz would say), all of them just want to get elected.

I agree that there is a lot of dependency in this country. However, I do think that we need to think complex domestic issues through a little more than both parties have. Both parties have spouted dogmatic and simplistic language with regard to these problems, yet offer few good plans. Giving away money doesn't work, that's for sure. Neither does simply assuming that all of society's downtrodden are lazy. As my friend simplebusinessralph doesn't understand from his perspective in his work and living situation (where most around him would see things exactly as he does), there is a world outside of the cubicles that must be dealt with in a productive manner. For example, health care is a looming crisis, and leaving things as they are won't work. If you think, for example, that health care is nothing but a simple commodity in which the market will conquer all, then I could recommend some reading for you and BTR. This is but one example.

Example---most of America's Medicare dollars are spent in the last year of life. This is problematic for a variety of reasons. People need care, and 90 year olds frequently lack the funds to pay for that kind of care. What's the solution, guys? Note: a simplistic answer such as eliminate all government funding of health care requires a lengthy, intelligent alternative response. cheers:)

BTR--thanks again for having this board. I don't have to wonder if the conservative jen miller is going to ban me at any minute for my heretical views.

[Iowafan1]

Where the hell is Dweeb by the way? SFHawk and Plundersquawk too for that matter?

[MoHawk]

bigtimeralph said:

Str8 cash homey. Hit me up. Don't forget to bring a little extra cash to pay for Todd Stroger and his big government Democrat allies' new cars with that 10.25% sales tax.

Goes without saying. I've got friends that live in the Wrigleyville area, so I'm hoping the rebate will be enough to cover everything I'll need for the weekend.

Details will follow as we get closer to the date.

[Norm "racerhawk" Parker]

iowafan1 said:

Where the hell is Dweeb by the way? SFHawk and Plundersquawk too for that matter?

I think Big Time is trying to get SF hawk over here. I don't know how to reach himl.

Plundersquawk only seems to pop his head up every now and then. I dunno. He seems to like to comment on bill o loofah o reilly o....

Dweeb is an elusive character. He is somewhere in a shack in Montana, expanding his manifesto, which closely mirrors his earlier comments that "when both wings of big government conspire to take your money, real freedom is stolen"

I'd love to see that guy over here. He completes the set! Now, I have to get my arse back to writing papers.

btw--do you go to Iowa FB games during the year. I'd like to down a crappy, warm American beer with you.

[NOTTHOR]

superracerhawk said:

iowafan1 said:

Racer, whats up Bro? Little clarification required for your preface. Both the Democrats and the Republicans have lost most of their relevance. The Democrats after JFK and the Republicans after GB1. For over 40 years, Democrats have stood for "take from those who earn and give to those who don't", a philosophy which has never succeeded in any country, much less the U.S.A. Republicans used to fly the Conservative banner, but more and more everyday, they have started behaving as liberal as the Democrats they run against. So, in a sense, you are correct in saying the Republicans started it. In the view of Conservatives though, todays Republicans are nothing more than RINO's, starting with GW2 at the top of the list. They all suck donkey nuts. One day, we will all see what the politics of dependency will bring this Country....and it won't be good.

Hey, Iafan...just hanging out on another brutally cold Shitcago day. Whether dem or repub (both parties of big government as dweebnutz would say), all of them just want to get elected.

I agree that there is a lot of dependency in this country. However, I do think that we need to think complex domestic issues through a little more than both parties have. Both parties have spouted dogmatic and simplistic language with regard to these problems, yet offer few good plans. Giving away money doesn't work, that's for sure. Neither does simply assuming that all of society's downtrodden are lazy. As my friend simplebusinessralph doesn't understand from his perspective in his work and living situation (where most around him would see things exactly as he does), there is a world outside of the cubicles that must be dealt with in a productive manner. For example, health care is a looming crisis, and leaving things as they are won't work. If you think, for example, that health care is nothing but a simple commodity in which the market will conquer all, then I could recommend some reading for you and BTR. This is but one example.

Example---most of America's Medicare dollars are spent in the last year of life. This is problematic for a variety of reasons. People need care, and 90 year olds frequently lack the funds to pay for that kind of care. What's the solution, guys? Note: a simplistic answer such as eliminate all government funding of health care requires a lengthy, intelligent alternative response. cheers:)

BTR--thanks again for having this board. I don't have to wonder if the conservative jen miller is going to ban me at any minute for my heretical views.

Jesus H Christ racer, you know my answer. Raise Medicare from 3% of income up to 10%. Seriously, WTF? Healthcare is scarce. Nothing that you or your big government liberal allies will cook up will magically increase supply, all you will do is increase demand which will crowd out other buyers who aren't "poor" enough or old enough to qualify for the government's regime (surely you are familiar with "crowding out"). That's all any of these plans do. No one is tackling the real problem, which is a supply issue.

To the 90 year old guy with cancer, sucks to be you, pal. My plan would be toss a guy like that in a hospice with a nice morphine drip until he expires, unless he has the cash or insurance to cover treatment. I would also advocate bringing euthanasia to healthcare. Cutting Medicare costs in the last year will go a long way to controlling overall costs. That freaking drug plan is going to cost a fortune and what bleeding hearts like you don't realize is that people 65 and older control the vast majority of this nation's wealth, yet they want another freaking payout from me. I don't think so. Your liberal transfer payment schemes have turned America from a country that used to believe in individual responsibility into the me first, right here right now instant gratification hippiefest that it currently is. Hardly anybody saves shit for retirement because they just assume they'll vote some shitbag jackbooted stormtrooper into office who will dispossess me, barber, iowafan, autolykos and Eddie Haskell of our cash for the "public good".

[GhostMod 5000]

bigtimeralph said:

If you paid a lot of taxes, you get nothing. If paid no taxes, you get a few hundred bucks. Only in the Marxist, twisted, liberal-fascist Democratic peabrain does such logic make sense, but hey, what can we expect from guys like you whose mantra is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need?"

Gooood...my plan is coming into fruition. Soon the time to strike will be at hand!



God I love that picture!

[Norm "racerhawk" Parker]

bigtimeralph said:

superracerhawk said:

Hey, Iafan...just hanging out on another brutally cold Shitcago day. Whether dem or repub (both parties of big government as dweebnutz would say), all of them just want to get elected.

I agree that there is a lot of dependency in this country. However, I do think that we need to think complex domestic issues through a little more than both parties have. Both parties have spouted dogmatic and simplistic language with regard to these problems, yet offer few good plans. Giving away money doesn't work, that's for sure. Neither does simply assuming that all of society's downtrodden are lazy. As my friend simplebusinessralph doesn't understand from his perspective in his work and living situation (where most around him would see things exactly as he does), there is a world outside of the cubicles that must be dealt with in a productive manner. For example, health care is a looming crisis, and leaving things as they are won't work. If you think, for example, that health care is nothing but a simple commodity in which the market will conquer all, then I could recommend some reading for you and BTR. This is but one example.

Example---most of America's Medicare dollars are spent in the last year of life. This is problematic for a variety of reasons. People need care, and 90 year olds frequently lack the funds to pay for that kind of care. What's the solution, guys? Note: a simplistic answer such as eliminate all government funding of health care requires a lengthy, intelligent alternative response. cheers:)

BTR--thanks again for having this board. I don't have to wonder if the conservative jen miller is going to ban me at any minute for my heretical views.

Jesus H Christ racer, you know my answer. Raise Medicare from 3% of income up to 10%. Seriously, WTF? Healthcare is scarce. Nothing that you or your big government liberal allies will cook up will magically increase supply, all you will do is increase demand which will crowd out other buyers who aren't "poor" enough or old enough to qualify for the government's regime (surely you are familiar with "crowding out"). That's all any of these plans do. No one is tackling the real problem, which is a supply issue.

To the 90 year old guy with cancer, sucks to be you, pal. My plan would be toss a guy like that in a hospice with a nice morphine drip until he expires, unless he has the cash or insurance to cover treatment. I would also advocate bringing euthanasia to healthcare. Cutting Medicare costs in the last year will go a long way to controlling overall costs. That freaking drug plan is going to cost a fortune and what bleeding hearts like you don't realize is that people 65 and older control the vast majority of this nation's wealth, yet they want another freaking payout from me. I don't think so. Your liberal transfer payment schemes have turned America from a country that used to believe in individual responsibility into the me first, right here right now instant gratification hippiefest that it currently is. Hardly anybody saves shit for retirement because they just assume they'll vote some shitbag jackbooted stormtrooper into office who will dispossess me, barber, iowafan, autolykos and Eddie Haskell of our cash for the "public good".

Thanks for the festival of assumptions.

1. People like me make money. Pretty damn good money in fact. In health care, no less. Jobs!

2. Hospice is NOT cheap. I like the other things you said.

3. I don't necessarily think that universal, single party payer system is the answer, but we have to address the issues as we have noted. We need a real national discussion.

4. Shifting costs to the patient does actually decrease utilization. However, some studies have found that people actually don't go to the doctor when they need to, out of fear that they will run out of money. Then, later, they become even sicker, costing much more money in the long run.

5. One of the biggest keys is in prevention (yes, for the public good...I know that hurts your ears), so that people aren't having to purchase very expensive invasive surgeries.

How many prenatal vitamins can be given to prevent birth defects and low intellectual functioning kids, for just a few cardiac surgeries the fat dudes need? You're right, health care is scarce.

Personally, I like the universal voucher system as forwarded by Fuchs at Stanford.

[NOTTHOR]

My plan will make hospice cheap. Just hire a bunch of CRNAs to change bedpans and sheets. It will be fine.

If someone is too dumb to go see the doctor when they think they are sick, query whether that person is smart enough to be a valuable cog in the country's economic machine.

I don't know what the hell Fuchs is, please enlighten us. My guess is that since he is at Stanford and is not Thomas Sowell, his papers are a liberal spoogefest.

[Norm "racerhawk" Parker]

I'm presuming that you have the ability to look things up. You are a surly little dude today, aren't you?

Fuchs. Standford. Universal Voucher System. I don't think he may be as liberal as you believe. He may actually be labeled a "republican" but I don't find as much utility in the "us" versus "them" approach that you and your reactionary friends admire so...

You're schooling me on health care? There are deeper issues than what you can find in a macroeconomics text. But, alas, I'm wasting my time. To realize this, however, you need to move away from the assumption that health care is merely a simple commodity, like guns and butter. If you are unwilling to move beyond that, the conversation is futile.

PS--by the time someone is eligible, or even considered for hospice, they likely have been aggressively and expensively treated for quite awhile. I think you're almost on the right track with this, but not quite there yet. CNAs can do bedpans, but a great deal of hospice is medication management, which means MDs and RNS, and also phramacists. I agree it can be done much more cheaply in the future, but it is a bit more complex than your "solution." The real answer may lie in getting people to hospice sooner, versus aggressively treating incurable diseases to the bitter end.

In some ways, you sound like dweeb buster. Everything has a simple solution, and can be found in a macroeconomics text. Why the hell would anyone need to study anything else, then, since all the answers can be found there, Ralphie?


Gotta go hang out with the family. later.