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Post by Gumbyhawk on Mar 20, 2008 8:43:11 GMT -6
I was reading in the paper a few nights ago about how some shitbag sex offender was getting Pell grants while in prison so that he could take classes through the mail. That's bad enough. Then... Last night, I read in the paper about how they FINALLY fixed a glitch in the GI bill that was leaving thousands of Iraqi war vets UNABLE to get educational benefits to go to school. WHAT IN THE FUKK??? Why is it easier for some shitbag serial rapist to get an education on the taxpayer dime than it is for the men and women who are out there risking their lives for us? At least the GI bill mistake is now fixed (supposedly). But, this is all just something MORE to remember when you go to the polls in November!
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 20, 2008 9:01:42 GMT -6
The answer is simple. Soft on crime, anti-military liberals would rather see sex offenders doing great than those who served our country treated with respect and dignity. Liberals are the same douches who burn our flag and spat on our troops when the troops came home from 'Nam.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Mar 20, 2008 9:04:15 GMT -6
The answer is simple. Soft on crime, anti-military liberals would rather see sex offenders doing great than those who served our country treated with respect and dignity. Liberals are the same douches who burn our flag and spat on our troops when the troops came home from 'Nam. W Bush must be a liberal bince under his administration our GIs have not been treated with respect and dignity. Pell grant situation, Walter Reed situation, appropriate financial benefits, etc.
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Post by socal on Mar 20, 2008 9:04:36 GMT -6
I'm still ticked about all the guard members that served overseas - only to come home and be dismissed at day 729 of their active duty... so the government didn't have to pay them the full benefits they would have received if they had been active for 730 days.
.....Especially when you look at the wasted funds. Their benefits are a drop in the bucket.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 20, 2008 9:09:15 GMT -6
Yes, W mans every single position within the government. It's all his fault. The blame America first libs are out in full force today. The fact of the matter is that many government workers are union members. They cannot be fired no matter how grossly incompetent or slow they are. There is no reward or incentive for going the extra mile and detecting and fixing problems. There is no downside for not fixing things, as no one will ever get fired. Unions stand firmly on the shoulders of Mussolini and others cut from his liberal fascist mold, hence, the problem is clearly liberals. Let us not forget that W is a member of a select group of ultra big government liberals, as he is fiscally liberal and socially conservative and seeks to use the federal government to impose the beliefs of a small subset of the country on everyone.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Mar 20, 2008 9:13:44 GMT -6
I'm still ticked about all the guard members that served overseas - only to come home and be dismissed at day 729 of their active duty... so the government didn't have to pay them the full benefits they would have received if they had been active for 730 days. .....Especially when you look at the wasted funds. Their benefits are a drop in the bucket. Yeah, that was basically the "glitch". Troops were being dismissed at Day 729 and then were not given any education benefits. Meanwhile, "Chester the Molester" is in his cell... masturbating as he studies up for his FREE Biology exam.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Mar 20, 2008 9:27:05 GMT -6
Is a well educated sex offender more dangerous to society?
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Post by lpcalihawk on Mar 20, 2008 9:43:47 GMT -6
Yes, W mans every single position within the government. It's all his fault. The blame America first libs are out in full force today. The fact of the matter is that many government workers are union members. They cannot be fired no matter how grossly incompetent or slow they are. There is no reward or incentive for going the extra mile and detecting and fixing problems. There is no downside for not fixing things, as no one will ever get fired. Unions stand firmly on the shoulders of Mussolini and others cut from his liberal fascist mold, hence, the problem is clearly liberals. Let us not forget that W is a member of a select group of ultra big government liberals, as he is fiscally liberal and socially conservative and seeks to use the federal government to impose the beliefs of a small subset of the country on everyone. The CEO is responsible for the employees under him. Maybe if the CEO and his board quit appointing cronies and incompetents to decision-making positions within the Defense Department, then they wouldn't deserve any of the blame. How can I be blaming America when I am defending our soldiers who fight/fought for our freedoms? BTR - I thought you were smarter than that. You must fall into the "criticism of government equals unpatriotic" crowd. You need to be watching John Adams on HBO to see how far your political leanings have strayed.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 20, 2008 9:44:55 GMT -6
Yes, W mans every single position within the government. It's all his fault. The blame America first libs are out in full force today. The fact of the matter is that many government workers are union members. They cannot be fired no matter how grossly incompetent or slow they are. There is no reward or incentive for going the extra mile and detecting and fixing problems. There is no downside for not fixing things, as no one will ever get fired. Unions stand firmly on the shoulders of Mussolini and others cut from his liberal fascist mold, hence, the problem is clearly liberals. Let us not forget that W is a member of a select group of ultra big government liberals, as he is fiscally liberal and socially conservative and seeks to use the federal government to impose the beliefs of a small subset of the country on everyone. Ralphie, I'm proud of you Brother! That has got to be one of the greatest passages in the history of mankind. Gotta throw a "I'm proud of you" to Ghostee as well. Looks like he may be starting to come around to the realization that liberalism has caused each and every one of these problems. To highlight on the sex offender issue, or any other violent crime against humanity for that matter, it will all come screeching to a virtual halt shortly after the day we decrease the appeals window for the convicted to ten minutes, start marching their twisted asses out of the courtroom and straight to the firing squad. Sadly, it takes most of the liberal population a little longer to start doing the right thing.
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Post by lpcalihawk on Mar 20, 2008 9:45:31 GMT -6
Yes, W mans every single position within the government. It's all his fault. The blame America first libs are out in full force today. The fact of the matter is that many government workers are union members. They cannot be fired no matter how grossly incompetent or slow they are. There is no reward or incentive for going the extra mile and detecting and fixing problems. There is no downside for not fixing things, as no one will ever get fired. Unions stand firmly on the shoulders of Mussolini and others cut from his liberal fascist mold, hence, the problem is clearly liberals. Let us not forget that W is a member of a select group of ultra big government liberals, as he is fiscally liberal and socially conservative and seeks to use the federal government to impose the beliefs of a small subset of the country on everyone. Ralphie, I'm proud of you Brother! That has got to be one of the greatest passages in the history of mankind. Gotta throw a "I'm proud of you" to Ghostee as well. Looks like he may be starting to come around to the realization that liberalism has caused each and every one of these problems. To highlight on the sex offender issue, or any other violent crime against humanity for that matter, it will all come screeching to a virtual halt shortly after the day we decrease the period for appeals for the convicted to ten minutes, start marching their twisted asses out of the courtroom and straight to the firing squad. Sadly, it takes most of the liberal population a little longer to start doing the right thing. I'm looking forward to your conviction
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Post by socal on Mar 20, 2008 9:49:26 GMT -6
Yes, W mans every single position within the government. It's all his fault. The ones with say on the direction of the country - he does ... via his hand chosen appointments. For example: DOJ Treasury Dept. SEC etc. If you're interested in how his incompetence at appointing people is effecting real people, here's an article that talks about his selective appointments: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/todays_must_read_286.phpHere are a few Federal agencies that are almost non-functional for policy/enforcement - due to the lack of Bush appointments: Federal Elections Commission Consumer Product Safety Commission Council of Economic Advisers National Labor Relations Board U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission Nuclear Regulatory Commission ------------ A related back story on how this could end up biting the GOP - for those interested in such things. tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/mccains_fec_problem.php
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Mar 20, 2008 9:50:44 GMT -6
I'm still ticked about all the guard members that served overseas - only to come home and be dismissed at day 729 of their active duty... so the government didn't have to pay them the full benefits they would have received if they had been active for 730 days. .....Especially when you look at the wasted funds. Their benefits are a drop in the bucket. I remember you saying your brother was in the service over seas, but didn't hear about this. That's really fucked up...sorry to hear about that...no way to treat someone that's served their country.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 20, 2008 9:51:18 GMT -6
Ralphie, I'm proud of you Brother! That has got to be one of the greatest passages in the history of mankind. Gotta throw a "I'm proud of you" to Ghostee as well. Looks like he may be starting to come around to the realization that liberalism has caused each and every one of these problems. To highlight on the sex offender issue, or any other violent crime against humanity for that matter, it will all come screeching to a virtual halt shortly after the day we decrease the period for appeals for the convicted to ten minutes, start marching their twisted asses out of the courtroom and straight to the firing squad. Sadly, it takes most of the liberal population a little longer to start doing the right thing. I'm looking forward to your conviction Loving the fatties isn't violent crime against humanity. It is just sweet, sweet love....just more of it.....and, by the way.....I still own you. Now, go find your Mommy.
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Post by socal on Mar 20, 2008 9:56:28 GMT -6
I'm still ticked about all the guard members that served overseas - only to come home and be dismissed at day 729 of their active duty... so the government didn't have to pay them the full benefits they would have received if they had been active for 730 days. .....Especially when you look at the wasted funds. Their benefits are a drop in the bucket. I remember you saying your brother was in the service over seas, but didn't hear about this. That's really fucked up...sorry to hear about that...no way to treat someone that's served their country. My brother wasn't effected by this - he was only overseas about 15 months (well short)... this story came to light last year about 1100 - 2600 MN&IA guard members (depending on the report) being effected, and after some digging - it was found that this effected roughly 4,000 - 6,000 guard members. Perhaps that's why he hasn't been shipped out again... as that would put him & his group over the 2 yr. benefits line. Link to the original story: www.wcsh6.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=71741Updated story: www.iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=120230
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Post by lpcalihawk on Mar 20, 2008 10:11:37 GMT -6
I'm looking forward to your conviction Loving the fatties isn't violent crime against humanity. It is just sweet, sweet love....just more of it.....and, by the way.....I still own you. Now, go find your Mommy. I already found your Mommy and already laid the pipe. Great retort to my post by the way, very substanative
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Post by lpcalihawk on Mar 20, 2008 10:13:00 GMT -6
Yes, W mans every single position within the government. It's all his fault. The ones with say on the direction of the country - he does ... via his hand chosen appointments. For example: DOJ Treasury Dept. SEC etc. If you're interested in how his incompetence at appointing people is effecting real people, here's an article that talks about his selective appointments: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/todays_must_read_286.phpHere are a few Federal agencies that are almost non-functional for policy/enforcement - due to the lack of Bush appointments: Federal Elections Commission Consumer Product Safety Commission Council of Economic Advisers National Labor Relations Board U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission Nuclear Regulatory Commission ------------ A related back story on how this could end up biting the GOP - for those interested in such things. tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/mccains_fec_problem.phpI love how the people who hate government and think it should have less power are the ones who can't make it run efficiently. They should not be in power.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 20, 2008 11:33:18 GMT -6
The ones with say on the direction of the country - he does ... via his hand chosen appointments. For example: DOJ Treasury Dept. SEC etc. If you're interested in how his incompetence at appointing people is effecting real people, here's an article that talks about his selective appointments: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/todays_must_read_286.phpHere are a few Federal agencies that are almost non-functional for policy/enforcement - due to the lack of Bush appointments: Federal Elections Commission Consumer Product Safety Commission Council of Economic Advisers National Labor Relations Board U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission Nuclear Regulatory Commission ------------ A related back story on how this could end up biting the GOP - for those interested in such things. tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/mccains_fec_problem.phpI love how the people who hate government and think it should have less power are the ones who can't make it run efficiently. They should not be in power. With the exception of Military battles, when is the last time you EVER saw any Government efficiency, regardless of the party in power? It has never happened, which is the strongest case for eliminating most of it.....and it is for the very reason that Ralphie stated. There is no ownership, only union slackers. The only remnants remaining should be those that are absolutely critical to the defense and infrastructure of the Country. That goes for any program that receives one dime from its citizens.
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Post by socal on Mar 20, 2008 11:39:06 GMT -6
I love how the people who hate government and think it should have less power are the ones who can't make it run efficiently. They should not be in power. With the exception of Military battles, when is the last time you EVER saw any Government efficiency, regardless of the party in power? It has never happened, which is the strongest case for eliminating most of it.....and it is for the very reason that Ralphie stated. There is no ownership, only union slackers. The only remnants remaining should be those that are absolutely critical to the defense and infrastructure of the Country. That goes for any program that receives one dime from its citizens.What about those that provide infrastructure for defense? www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/world/middleeast/20inquire.html?_r=1&ex=1363752000&en=1c591a7aac9131bb&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin...because they appear to be sorely lacking too.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Mar 20, 2008 12:01:33 GMT -6
Whomever said all government workers are unionized is dead wrong. Or only off by 1.2 million workers.
The federal government, excluding the postal service, employs 1.8 million people, and is the largest single employer in the country. The largest federal employees union, the AFGE, has 600,000 members.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Mar 20, 2008 12:10:29 GMT -6
I love how the people who hate government and think it should have less power are the ones who can't make it run efficiently. They should not be in power. With the exception of Military battles, when is the last time you EVER saw any Government efficiency, regardless of the party in power? It has never happened, which is the strongest case for eliminating most of it.....and it is for the very reason that Ralphie stated. There is no ownership, only union slackers. The only remnants remaining should be those that are absolutely critical to the defense and infrastructure of the Country. That goes for any program that receives one dime from its citizens. Hmmm.... FDIC, the Marshall plan, rural electrification, the interstate highway system, The federal bank system, the national park sytem, managing federal forests, the USDA, running hydroelectric facilities (the TVA and Hoover dam, etc), the FAA, regulating patents, charting the oceans, the national weather service, operating foreign embassies and consulates, storage of nuclear waste, NASA, blah, blah, blah, blah
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 20, 2008 12:10:47 GMT -6
The ones with say on the direction of the country - he does ... via his hand chosen appointments. For example: DOJ Treasury Dept. SEC etc. If you're interested in how his incompetence at appointing people is effecting real people, here's an article that talks about his selective appointments: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/todays_must_read_286.phpHere are a few Federal agencies that are almost non-functional for policy/enforcement - due to the lack of Bush appointments: Federal Elections Commission Consumer Product Safety Commission Council of Economic Advisers National Labor Relations Board U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission Nuclear Regulatory Commission ------------ A related back story on how this could end up biting the GOP - for those interested in such things. tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/mccains_fec_problem.phpI love how the people who hate government and think it should have less power are the ones who can't make it run efficiently. They should not be in power. Maybe those who think the government should have less power aren't too worried about strengthening or maintaining the relics of Rooseveltian fascism to the extent the modern ultra libs are. I know I have a hard time sleeping when I hear that the NLRB doesn't have strong leadership. Oh no, the sky is falling. The federal government employs millions of mouthbreathers. When I call Citibank and something gets effed up, do you think I sit there blaming the CEO or even the president of its consumer banking division? Hell no, because I know that good help is hard to find and that those guys are working hard. Same goes for W. Liberal American slothiness, when coupled with union protectionism, is a recipe for the shittiest run entities in the world, see, e.g. the US government, the DMV, Ford Motor Co. etc.
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 20, 2008 12:22:21 GMT -6
Whomever said all government workers are unionized is dead wrong. Or only off by 1.2 million workers. The federal government, excluding the postal service, employs 1.8 million people, and is the largest single employer in the country. The largest federal employees union, the AFGE, has 600,000 members. Government Employee union (lower case) membership is 36.2%, vice 7.4% in the private sector. That is a huge difference and that union mentality, otherwise known as "Don'tgiveashitsitus", is the main reason why there is no pride or ownership in a typical government establishment. I mean, did you seriously enjoy your last road trip to the Department of Motor Vehicles?...or was it kind of like every experience I have ever had at the DMV? Assuming your experiences have been similar to mine, would you continue frequenting those gay clubs in Davenport if they provided similar service as the DMV? I don't think you would, no matter how many free drinks the "fellas" bought you and your lovely bride. They would go out of business. Why shouldn't inefficient Government offices suffer the same fate? The jubilation isn't the same between the two locales, just as wacking it with Astroglide isn't the same as wacking it with barbed wire (Don't ask.....I heard that somewhere).
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 20, 2008 12:34:01 GMT -6
I guess that 3.92 GPA didn't include a certificate in reading comprehension. No one said all government workers are unionized, just that many are.
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Post by socal on Mar 20, 2008 12:50:51 GMT -6
I guess that 3.92 GPA didn't include a certificate in reading comprehension. No one said all government workers are unionized, just that many are. Just as... many conservative / Republican males masturbate while stimulating themselves with a dildo. Hey, we can devolve this discussion some more... anybody care to bring up bestiality? ____________________________________ Speaking about government roles in our lives, here is an interesting story that should provide some more interesting debate: www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html?tag=nefd.ledeRead it, then think about the consequences -- if the link would have been bounced to one of the sites listed.
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Post by Gumbyhawk on Mar 20, 2008 13:01:53 GMT -6
Damn you!! Look at what my beautiful thread has become!
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