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Post by socal on Mar 24, 2008 8:00:16 GMT -6
From my mom in IC:
UNIVERSITY OF IOWA
Message sent - 3/24/2008
IC Gunman
EMERGENCY HAWK ALERT, 3/24/2008, {time}: An active shooter is reported to be in the Iowa City Area. He is a white male in his mid 40's driving a 1998 Tan Toyota Sienna Minivan, IOWA License plate 501 BLO. If you see it call 911 from a safe location to report shooter sighting.
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Post by hawkeyescott on Mar 24, 2008 9:01:27 GMT -6
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Post by hawkeyescott on Mar 24, 2008 9:14:05 GMT -6
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Post by socal on Mar 24, 2008 9:14:58 GMT -6
Just. Friggin. Tragic...
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Mar 24, 2008 10:12:36 GMT -6
Now I hope the ICPD will leave the damn football team alone...
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 24, 2008 10:34:03 GMT -6
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Post by The Flying Spaghetti Monster on Mar 24, 2008 12:27:55 GMT -6
Things that make you go hmmmmm on this one:
$500k+ is a lot just for drug use; what else was he involved in?
Why shoot the family? More like getting rid of witnesses?
Why crash your vehicle instead just shooting yourself?
Outside of the movies, how often to car wrecks result in infernos where you cannot identify the body?
This whole thing is tragic.
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 24, 2008 13:08:25 GMT -6
Things that make you go hmmmmm on this one: $500k+ is a lot just for drug use; what else was he involved in? Why shoot the family? More like getting rid of witnesses? Why crash your vehicle instead just shooting yourself? Outside of the movies, how often to car wrecks result in infernos where you cannot identify the body? This whole thing is tragic. I would guess that there will be more info coming but I don't think at this point it's a good idea for people to make assumptions on what exactly happened. The whole thing is sad. |
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Post by socal on Mar 24, 2008 13:22:02 GMT -6
I see how this could have happened "outside off the movies"....
Look at the pictures.... He got a head of steam going towards the foundation, he hit it - and the butt end of the vehicle launched around and landed on the cable post... puncturing the tank - which then ignited due to one of the following:
-a squib
-an excellent flick of a cigarette butt
-a distant rifle shot
-metal on metal friction or engine/exhaust heat
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Post by The Flying Spaghetti Monster on Mar 24, 2008 13:41:24 GMT -6
Although I have made no assumptions and just brought up a few things that don't 100% jib to me, I will wait for your go-head secret signal that it is ok for me to start formulating my assumptions.
Thanks in advance. ;D
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 24, 2008 13:57:42 GMT -6
Although I have made no assumptions and just brought up a few things that don't 100% jib to me, I will wait for your go-head secret signal that it is ok for me to start formulating my assumptions. Thanks in advance. ;D No problem, Do you want the normal one or will this do?  ;D |
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Post by FlyHawkJoe S.O.B. on Mar 24, 2008 14:11:20 GMT -6
Well, they just confirmed that it was indeed his van out on I-80. Can we assume it's his burned body in it, or is that against the rules?
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 24, 2008 16:44:45 GMT -6
Well, they just confirmed that it was indeed his van out on I-80. Can we assume it's his burned body in it, or is that against the rules? Yes, and also FYI his wife and the 4 kids were not shot. and I was told that by someone who spoke to one of the family members. |
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Post by Justhawks17 on Mar 24, 2008 18:05:22 GMT -6
What the fuck is wrong with this fucking world? Just freaken stupid. The POS can rot in Hell.
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Post by hawkeyescott on Mar 25, 2008 7:56:16 GMT -6
Well, they just confirmed that it was indeed his van out on I-80. Can we assume it's his burned body in it, or is that against the rules? Yes, and also FYI his wife and the 4 kids were not shot. and I was told that by someone who spoke to one of the family members. What I heard is this bastard beat them to death with a baseball bat. Now that is just sick. I still can't picture how you can hit a kid with a bat and not feel any remorse and continue to do it on the others. This dickhead had some serious problems and I am glad he took his own life so he can't hurt anyone else. |
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Post by socal on Mar 25, 2008 8:25:27 GMT -6
What I heard is this bastard beat them to death with a baseball bat. Now that is just sick. I still can't picture how you can hit a kid with a bat and not feel any remorse and continue to do it on the others. This dickhead had some serious problems and I am glad he took his own life so he can't hurt anyone else. I'm not overly happy. I would rather he had gotten the Marcellus Wallace "Medieval" treatment. |
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 25, 2008 8:28:28 GMT -6
I'm not overly happy. I would rather he had gotten the Marcellus Wallace "Medieval" treatment. Cosign. Every day for the rest of his life. It would have been much more appropriate. |
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Post by poncho72 on Mar 25, 2008 8:42:18 GMT -6
I have a sick feeling lump in the bottom of my stomach. How can someone do anything like this to anyone, let alone his own family.
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Post by BlckKnghtHwk on Mar 26, 2008 8:28:11 GMT -6
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Post by socal on Mar 26, 2008 9:34:07 GMT -6
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 26, 2008 10:51:11 GMT -6
These people are just plain sick but I would guess some people in IC won't ignore them like the police want them to. I have a bad feeling that the funerals could turn into a frickin' circus. Disgusting. |
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Post by The Flying Spaghetti Monster on Mar 26, 2008 10:57:39 GMT -6
'tis a very sad day indeed. Some things are just better off not understood.
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Post by Dr. Doofenshmirtz (Heywood) on Mar 26, 2008 10:58:11 GMT -6
That "church" is an embarrassment to the Christian faith.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Mar 26, 2008 11:02:41 GMT -6
I'd like 5 minutes alone with that Westboro minister.
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