Libs - Defend your Messiah's Charitable Giving

[NOTTHOR]

Below is a chart of Barack Hussein Obama's AGI, income tax and charitable contribution from 2000-06.



Barack was pulling BTR-familyesque scratch in 2000-02 yet he only found it in his heart to donate a grand total of $4870 to charity in three years? He's making this right wing nut blush. He made some pretty nice donations to the taxman during that time, though. This is a great insight into the liberal mind -- they think the only way to fund worthy causes is through confiscation and redistribution, and according to Mr. Obama's example, they certainly practice what they preach. Good for them.

I guess he at least has the defense that he didn't provide as much funding to his America loathing pastor as we once feared. I wonder if this will shed some additional light on his wife's ginormous medical administrator salary. If the fat cats in hospitals would take pay cuts, maybe the poors could afford healthcare.

taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/03/obama-releases.html

[barber]

Hey Ralph. Are you sure Barry Obama didn't voluntarily pay more in taxes bince he believes the rich aren't taxed enough. I believe the Government has always taken voluntary contributions, so he probably forked over more money.

And furthermore, I think this chart clearly shows that when taxes are cut (as in 2000 v. 2003) that there is no evidence to indicate that charitable giving rises (see e.g., 2000 and 2003 charitable giving),

Yup. Barry's tax returns clearly show that we need to increase taxes so good works can be accomplished and we can get rid of these damn charities once and for all.

[GhostMod 5000]

At least we know he wasn't giving alot of money to his America hating muslim church.

[NOTTHOR]

W versus Barry:



I think I see know where all the liberal hate for W comes from.

[ignatiusreilly]

I don't know about liberals, but I hate him because he and his administration ran our country into the ground over the past 8 years. Doesn't have anything to do with charitable contributions.
He's got some accountant that handles that anyway. You think W actually sits down and decides how much and who to give his money to?

[The Bluzmn]

ignatiusreilly said:

I don't know about liberals, but I hate him because he and his administration ran our country into the ground over the past 8 years. Doesn't have anything to do with charitable contributions.
He's got some accountant that handles that anyway. You think W actually sits down and decides how much and who to give his money to?

"W" probably can't count out correct change at the checkout counter.

[detlef]

Jennifer Burke says you don't donate enough to her daddy's war chest.

[socal]

bigtimeralph said:

W versus Barry:

I think I see know where all the liberal hate for W comes from.

You should start comparing apples to apples...

Look up the returns for W and Cheney in the 90's, then tell us how uncharitable Barack is.


And it's good to know Barack has your vote.

[idrinkthereforeiam]

$5K is still a lot of money to give to charity.

[lpcalihawk]

bigtimeralph said:

Below is a chart of Barack Hussein Obama's AGI, income tax and charitable contribution from 2000-06.



Barack was pulling BTR-familyesque scratch in 2000-02 yet he only found it in his heart to donate a grand total of $4870 to charity in three years? He's making this right wing nut blush. He made some pretty nice donations to the taxman during that time, though. This is a great insight into the liberal mind -- they think the only way to fund worthy causes is through confiscation and redistribution, and according to Mr. Obama's example, they certainly practice what they preach. Good for them.

I guess he at least has the defense that he didn't provide as much funding to his America loathing pastor as we once feared. I wonder if this will shed some additional light on his wife's ginormous medical administrator salary. If the fat cats in hospitals would take pay cuts, maybe the poors could afford healthcare.

taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/03/obama-releases.html

What percent of income do you give to charity? And no, the Regal Beagle is not a charity.

[NOTTHOR]

Backing out last year's contributions to the United Women's College Fund, I'd say I was around 5% of AGI. I don't itemize my deductions and as a result I don't know the exact amount. If my time I donated to pro bono causes were factored, it would be well north of 10.

I couldn't help but notice one big difference between Barry's returns and mine, though. The guy has very little investment (interest or dividend) income in those early years. Makes me wonder what the hell he was spending all his cash on. He sure wasn't saving for a rainy day.

[The Flying Spaghetti Monster]

A Bushie lecturing someone about not saving and spending too much?

That is just toooooooo rich. tee hee.

[NOTTHOR]

What's a Bushie?

[bucketochicken]

I'm confused - why does any charitable giving need to be defended at all?

[Dr. Doofenshmirtz (Heywood)]

bucketochicken said:

I'm confused - why does any charitable giving need to be defended at all?

I was kind of wondering that myself. It's their money, let them do with it as they please.

[barber]

I think Barry invested a bunch of money with Tony Rezko....errr I mean he bought a house with his money that was right next door to some property Tony bought for more than market value. Ya, that's it.... But I'm sure Barry paid the "Whitewater" value (which is about 10% of fair market value) for his home. But hey, it's not his fault that the cost of the property was substantially lower than other offers for the property. He and his wife have Harvard law degrees, but don't blame them if they can't smell a rat...

Oh and you're right, I'm sure W isn't sitting there doing his own charitable contributions - he probably keeps his tax records where Hillary does...you know, that place where they're conveniently "unavailable" until "at least 3 days prior to the Pennsylvania primary."

[NOTTHOR]

I thought that the libs hate W because he has run the country into the ground. We get hammered with stories of how shitty things are in the country out of the leftist media and Barry's camp, I just thought that someone who could say nothing but gloom and doom about how disastrous the last 8 years have been would do a little more to help his fellow man. Hope and change and hope for change and change for hope should start within one's own self. But like barber has pointed out, Barry demonstrates the deeply held liberal belief that cutting taxes will not increase charitable giving. Barry saved $12k from the government if you compare 2000 and 2003, but only gave $1000 more to charity. The liberal ideal of only caring for oneself demonstrates why Barry is so strongly in favor of raising taxes on the "rich," it's the only way he can be expected to be compassionate toward his fellow man.

[lpcalihawk]

What does it say in the Bible.......sooner that a rich man will enter the Kingdom of Heaven than a camel passes through the eye of the needle.....or something like that.

[NOTTHOR]

Too bad "rich" isn't defined therein. If it means top half of wealth in the world, I'll see the rest of ya'll in hell with me.

[socal]

barber said:

I think Barry invested a bunch of money with Tony Rezko....errr I mean he bought a house with his money that was right next door to some property Tony bought for more than market value. Ya, that's it.... But I'm sure Barry paid the "Whitewater" value (which is about 10% of fair market value) for his home. But hey, it's not his fault that the cost of the property was substantially lower than other offers for the property. He and his wife have Harvard law degrees, but don't blame them if they can't smell a rat...

Oh and you're right, I'm sure W isn't sitting there doing his own charitable contributions - he probably keeps his tax records where Hillary does...you know, that place where they're conveniently "unavailable" until "at least 3 days prior to the Pennsylvania primary."

Instead of looking like an idiot, the information (including $ values) is easily found online.

Come back when you care to wipe the turd from your lip.

Thanks.

[barber]

Hey blow me socal. The turd from my lip? What the hell does that mean? Maybe it's a reference for the crap you dish out about how Barry is totally innocent in the Rezko stuff. But since you mentioned it, I'm not sure you can find MARKET VALUE on the internet for Barry's home. You might be able to find ASSESSED VALUE, but as anyone who has ever owned more than a trailer knows, ASSESSED VALUE AND MARKET VALUE are not the same. And sure, the sellers are now denying that they recieved offers for the house (rather than the house+lot) for more than they sold to Barry. Any surprise there that a witness in Hyde Park (i.e., South Chicago) might have a revised view of history? If that surprises you, then I can really understand why you are so dillusional.

Oh, I get it. You think it was a coincidence that big shot Tony Rezko and Barry both closed their transactions on the same day. As Barry said himself, he did not use good judgment in working lock step with Rezko.

[barber]

Hey Socal, I suppose the Chicago Sun Times is a big conservative paper, so it's not credible here either. But you might look at #7 below.

www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article