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Post by NOTTHOR on May 13, 2021 7:02:44 GMT -6
The line is back up. Dude at QT told me they moved 26k gallons on Tuesday and over 20k yesterday - he said that a big week like Memorial Day is 80k for the week. They finally had gas this morning.
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Post by socal on May 13, 2021 8:06:38 GMT -6
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Post by A boy named Sioux on May 13, 2021 8:43:09 GMT -6
I can stand in for Earache. The tote is polyethelene, same as your red plastic gas can. As for the rest of your comment, you are spot on. Damn, so it's not the plasix that turn to mush when they get exposed to gasoline? That kind of ruins my day. Sadly for you and Darwin, no. Now she could easily drop the tote or squeeze it oddly and have all that gas pour out and achieve the desired effect.
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Post by Other on May 13, 2021 9:45:48 GMT -6
I can stand in for Earache. The tote is polyethelene, same as your red plastic gas can. As for the rest of your comment, you are spot on. Damn, so it's not the plasix that turn to mush when they get exposed to gasoline? That kind of ruins my day. The lids on those things don't seal tightly enough to create vapor pressure issues. That being said they definitely seal poorly enough for gas to slosh out every time she goes around a corner, brakes, or accelerates. If her car doesn't catch fire it's going to smell like gas for a long time.
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 13, 2021 10:02:46 GMT -6
Damn, so it's not the plasix that turn to mush when they get exposed to gasoline? That kind of ruins my day. The lids on those things don't seal tightly enough to create vapor pressure issues. That being said they definitely seal poorly enough for gas to slosh out every time she goes around a corner, brakes, or accelerates. If her car doesn't catch fire it's going to smell like gas for a long time. Welp, my day just got worse. Thanks for pissing in my Cheerios, bud.
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Post by socal on May 13, 2021 13:41:23 GMT -6
The lids on those things don't seal tightly enough to create vapor pressure issues. That being said they definitely seal poorly enough for gas to slosh out every time she goes around a corner, brakes, or accelerates. If her car doesn't catch fire it's going to smell like gas for a long time. Welp, my day just got worse. Thanks for pissing in my Cheerios, bud. Sealed garbage bags might liven it up a bit.
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Post by TaterWanger on May 13, 2021 15:02:11 GMT -6
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Post by TaterWanger on May 13, 2021 15:46:36 GMT -6
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Post by Other on May 13, 2021 15:53:24 GMT -6
God damn it, I came here to post that image. Fucking punk
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Post by socal on May 13, 2021 20:39:43 GMT -6
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Post by socal on May 14, 2021 13:55:16 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on May 14, 2021 14:22:25 GMT -6
This shit is fantastic. Dumbass proles crushing themselves never gets old
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Post by socal on May 16, 2021 7:06:17 GMT -6
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Post by socal on May 17, 2021 17:37:46 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 17, 2021 21:44:42 GMT -6
Agreed, Comrade. They should have given the petroleum away for free, filed for bankruptcy, then stiffed those bastards from Valero, Exxon and Phillips for that sweet refined product running through the pipeline. While that would have stung the greedy bastards who own stonks in those oil companies, the dilly dallying of the receivership process could have kept the pipeline off line for a few more days and turned the run on gas that was caused by classic hoarding behavior and last mile delivery constraints into a full blown energy shortage and given the boys at the refineries way more leverage to skullfuck end users, which in the long run would have benefited those stockholders. Frankly, I don't trust the computers and the IT pricks. They need to bring back the old system and have a Colonial rep at each facility monitoring how much they pull off the line everyday. The computers and IT guys should all be exiled. This pipeline going down is like fucking Christmas in May. I didn't see gas anywhere on Saturday and it gave the companies cover to raise prices 40-50 cents and no one bitches because they're just happy to have gas. Once we get that Memorial Day bump in traffic, Ho Lee Fuk. Gonna be raining dollars out there.
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Post by socal on May 18, 2021 8:11:35 GMT -6
Agreed, Comrade. They should have given the petroleum away for free, filed for bankruptcy, then stiffed those bastards from Valero, Exxon and Phillips for that sweet refined product running through the pipeline. While that would have stung the greedy bastards who own stonks in those oil companies, the dilly dallying of the receivership process could have kept the pipeline off line for a few more days and turned the run on gas that was caused by classic hoarding behavior and last mile delivery constraints into a full blown energy shortage and given the boys at the refineries way more leverage to skullfuck end users, which in the long run would have benefited those stockholders. Frankly, I don't trust the computers and the IT pricks. They need to bring back the old system and have a Colonial rep at each facility monitoring how much they pull off the line everyday. The computers and IT guys should all be exiled. This pipeline going down is like fucking Christmas in May. I didn't see gas anywhere on Saturday and it gave the companies cover to raise prices 40-50 cents and no one bitches because they're just happy to have gas. Once we get that Memorial Day bump in traffic, Ho Lee Fuk. Gonna be raining dollars out there. Nobody asked for free, nor was it ever necessary. Is simple maths. Sorry your digital billing system is offline, but multiple states of emergency would generally dictate getting a few accountants to get receipts... or god forbid, ask the clients for their respective site ids to eventually invoice.
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 18, 2021 9:30:46 GMT -6
Agreed, Comrade. They should have given the petroleum away for free, filed for bankruptcy, then stiffed those bastards from Valero, Exxon and Phillips for that sweet refined product running through the pipeline. While that would have stung the greedy bastards who own stonks in those oil companies, the dilly dallying of the receivership process could have kept the pipeline off line for a few more days and turned the run on gas that was caused by classic hoarding behavior and last mile delivery constraints into a full blown energy shortage and given the boys at the refineries way more leverage to skullfuck end users, which in the long run would have benefited those stockholders. Frankly, I don't trust the computers and the IT pricks. They need to bring back the old system and have a Colonial rep at each facility monitoring how much they pull off the line everyday. The computers and IT guys should all be exiled. This pipeline going down is like fucking Christmas in May. I didn't see gas anywhere on Saturday and it gave the companies cover to raise prices 40-50 cents and no one bitches because they're just happy to have gas. Once we get that Memorial Day bump in traffic, Ho Lee Fuk. Gonna be raining dollars out there. Nobody asked for free, nor was it ever necessary. Is simple maths. Sorry your digital billing system is offline, but multiple states of emergency would generally dictate getting a few accountants to get receipts... or god forbid, ask the clients for their respective site ids to eventually invoice. We are in agreement, Comrade. Computers have hindered human advancement and we could easily replace these archaic and vulnerable IT systems with a few people.
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Post by socal on May 26, 2021 19:51:48 GMT -6
Thoughts on Shell/Chevron/Exxon getting all green today?
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Post by thunderhawk on May 26, 2021 20:18:57 GMT -6
Thoughts on Shell/Chevron/Exxon getting all green today? Their shareholders aka owners did them a favor. Are you an energy company or an oil company? If you’re an energy company, your days of digging for oil are numbered. If you’re an oil company, I’ve got one word for you son: Plastics. Burning oil for energy is fucking insane given our dependence on plastics for everything.
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 27, 2021 8:05:06 GMT -6
Thoughts on Shell/Chevron/Exxon getting all green today? Massive win for The House of Saud, China and the Russians. Massive. You get the three biggest Western oil companies out of the exploration and capex market and if you are Aramco, CNPC, Lukoil or Rosneft you are going to yield absolutely monstrous benefits in 10 years or so as reserves of the Western majors deplete. I like the play short term because now Exxon and Chevron will be open to more funds because they can say "hey look at how green we are!!!"
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 27, 2021 8:20:45 GMT -6
Thoughts on Shell/Chevron/Exxon getting all green today? Their shareholders aka owners did them a favor. Are you an energy company or an oil company? If you’re an energy company, your days of digging for oil are numbered. If you’re an oil company, I’ve got one word for you son: Plastics. Burning oil for energy is fucking insane given our dependence on plastics for everything. Peak demand on oil is probably still 20 years off barring an absolutely draconian government action that craters standard of living for the middle class in the West. Hydrocarbons are the undisputed king of energy due to relative ease of storage, transport and energy conversion. The developing world will have higher increases in demand than the West will have decreases in demand for the foreseeable future and they ain't gonna electrify shit until they have an actual power grid that doesn't have brownouts and rolling blackouts.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 27, 2021 14:25:57 GMT -6
Their shareholders aka owners did them a favor. Are you an energy company or an oil company? If you’re an energy company, your days of digging for oil are numbered. If you’re an oil company, I’ve got one word for you son: Plastics. Burning oil for energy is fucking insane given our dependence on plastics for everything. Peak demand on oil is probably still 20 years off barring an absolutely draconian government action that craters standard of living for the middle class in the West. Hydrocarbons are the undisputed king of energy due to relative ease of storage, transport and energy conversion. The developing world will have higher increases in demand than the West will have decreases in demand for the foreseeable future and they ain't gonna electrify shit until they have an actual power grid that doesn't have brownouts and rolling blackouts. I don’t necessarily disagree with that analysis, but I’d also submit that old tech almost always overestimates its dominant longevity and underestimates new tech’s audacity and the sometimes laharesque acceleration of its eventual dominance.
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 27, 2021 17:01:12 GMT -6
Peak demand on oil is probably still 20 years off barring an absolutely draconian government action that craters standard of living for the middle class in the West. Hydrocarbons are the undisputed king of energy due to relative ease of storage, transport and energy conversion. The developing world will have higher increases in demand than the West will have decreases in demand for the foreseeable future and they ain't gonna electrify shit until they have an actual power grid that doesn't have brownouts and rolling blackouts. I don’t necessarily disagree with that analysis, but I’d also submit that old tech almost always overestimates its dominant longevity and underestimates new tech’s audacity and the sometimes laharesque acceleration of its eventual dominance. I don't disagree with your point on longevity, but in this case, the electric car is actually very old tech and I question whether in this case what you think is new tech is superior to the old tech. Passenger cars are about 25% of US oil consumption. Even assuming you move half of them to electric, which in and of itself is an astonishing reach, you still have the logistics systems running on oil and they are going to be far more difficult to move to electric. Good luck running a train on electric short of electrifying all the tracks. Good luck running a freighter on electric. Good luck running OTR trucks on electric. If there is a quantum leap, it ain't gonna be electric. It just ain't. I worked at an investment shop 20 years ago. There was a fella there whose biggest play was a listed company under ticker symbol PLUG. "In 20 years, this hydrogen technology is gonna power half the economy." Nope. Look at that max chart. Guh. 20 years later, still waiting. But if there is a seismic change, it will probably be that. The laws of physics and resource constraints are unkind to electricity.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 27, 2021 19:10:30 GMT -6
I don’t necessarily disagree with that analysis, but I’d also submit that old tech almost always overestimates its dominant longevity and underestimates new tech’s audacity and the sometimes laharesque acceleration of its eventual dominance. I don't disagree with your point on longevity, but in this case, the electric car is actually very old tech and I question whether in this case what you think is new tech is superior to the old tech. Passenger cars are about 25% of US oil consumption. Even assuming you move half of them to electric, which in and of itself is an astonishing reach, you still have the logistics systems running on oil and they are going to be far more difficult to move to electric. Good luck running a train on electric short of electrifying all the tracks. Good luck running a freighter on electric. Good luck running OTR trucks on electric. If there is a quantum leap, it ain't gonna be electric. It just ain't. I worked at an investment shop 20 years ago. There was a fella there whose biggest play was a listed company under ticker symbol PLUG. "In 20 years, this hydrogen technology is gonna power half the economy." Nope. Look at that max chart. Guh. 20 years later, still waiting. But if there is a seismic change, it will probably be that. The laws of physics and resource constraints are unkind to electricity. I don’t think the current electric vehicles are actually the internal combustion killer. They’ve got too many issues of their own, most notably range anxiety and charge time, not to mention battery degradation. I think what Tesla et al are doing is creating the mindset that the gas powered engine isn’t the only competitive game in town...and that paradigm change is when the gas powered engine goes on the endangered species list. Next some tech that solves the EV problems will evolve and that’ll be the asteroid vs dinosaurs moment for gas engines. I don’t know when that happens but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s within 15 or 20 years.
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Post by socal on May 27, 2021 19:32:41 GMT -6
I don't disagree with your point on longevity, but in this case, the electric car is actually very old tech and I question whether in this case what you think is new tech is superior to the old tech. Passenger cars are about 25% of US oil consumption. Even assuming you move half of them to electric, which in and of itself is an astonishing reach, you still have the logistics systems running on oil and they are going to be far more difficult to move to electric. Good luck running a train on electric short of electrifying all the tracks. Good luck running a freighter on electric. Good luck running OTR trucks on electric. If there is a quantum leap, it ain't gonna be electric. It just ain't. I worked at an investment shop 20 years ago. There was a fella there whose biggest play was a listed company under ticker symbol PLUG. "In 20 years, this hydrogen technology is gonna power half the economy." Nope. Look at that max chart. Guh. 20 years later, still waiting. But if there is a seismic change, it will probably be that. The laws of physics and resource constraints are unkind to electricity. I don’t think the current electric vehicles are actually the internal combustion killer. They’ve got too many issues of their own, most notably range anxiety and charge time, not to mention battery degradation. I think what Tesla et al are doing is creating the mindset that the gas powered engine isn’t the only competitive game in town...and that paradigm change is when the gas powered engine goes on the endangered species list. Next some tech that solves the EV problems will evolve and that’ll be the asteroid vs dinosaurs moment for gas engines. I don’t know when that happens but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s within 15 or 20 years. There are some amazing 48 Volt "Mild" Hybrid technologies out there to improve the current combustion engines. Once companies get smart and work towards a standard, we will get where we need to be.
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