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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Aug 27, 2021 7:43:10 GMT -6
Did we really need to be out of Afghanistan? We had less then 3000 soldiers on the ground. We had one combat death in the past year and a half. Those few US soldiers seemed to have had a huge stabilizing influence on the country. As for Biden having to follow through on the stupid deal Trump set up, why? Hasn't he undone nearly everything else Trump did foreign affairs wise? As for your assertion that it is the media making it look like Biden fucked this up, you are nuts. If CNN is turning on Biden over this, its because he screwed it up so badly that they can't cover for him any longer. What the fuck dude. I thought you were smarter than this. The only reason the Taliban wasn’t attacking our 2500 troops is because we were leaving. The only options that gelatinous Orange fuck left Biden were withdrawing (correct choice) or surging in tens of thousands of Americans so we could have another hot war with the Taliban. It’s also pretty clear that you don’t have a grasp on the nature of our garbage corporate media which has been covering for the overtly fascist and ridiculously hypocritical GOP for decades. And another issue is that these dumbfucks like Chuck I eat lead paint Todd never call out the blatant lies by the GQP that they allow to be spun on their shows. Unless it is a Dem do they actually attempt to spin whatever GQP point is out there because again, ratings. Drive up the rage in their followers so they see what stupid shit the hosts say next. Fuck Chuck Todd, he's a piece of shit who should not have a show.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 27, 2021 10:13:02 GMT -6
I must have confused the right and left again. I could have sworn the media has been shilling for the left, not the right. Thanks for straightening that out. Bro I know you're old enough to remember the run-up to the Iraq war...
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Post by socal on Aug 27, 2021 10:13:21 GMT -6
What the fuck dude. I thought you were smarter than this. The only reason the Taliban wasn’t attacking our 2500 troops is because we were leaving. The only options that gelatinous Orange fuck left Biden were withdrawing (correct choice) or surging in tens of thousands of Americans so we could have another hot war with the Taliban. It’s also pretty clear that you don’t have a grasp on the nature of our garbage corporate media which has been covering for the overtly fascist and ridiculously hypocritical GOP for decades. And another issue is that these dumbfucks like Chuck I eat lead paint Todd never call out the blatant lies by the GQP that they allow to be spun on their shows. Unless it is a Dem do they actually attempt to spin whatever GQP point is out there because again, ratings. Drive up the rage in their followers so they see what stupid shit the hosts say next. Fuck Chuck Todd, he's a piece of shit who should not have a show. It's more the Wharrgarbl issue. With Dipshit there was a firehose of sewage being distributed daily. The press literally couldn't wrap their teeth into anything before he/they had moved on to something even dumber and more corrupt. The problem with Biden (and Obama) & the press is nothing terrible is/was happening by them, so they have the fleeting things to focus on and theorize all the fantasies of how ungodly terrible it could be. Though Biden IS POTUS and the buck stops with him, his biggest problems are steaming piles of crap caused by / exacerbated by Dipshit. He does have the blessing of hindsight from being on the Obama team to know when he is being played by the war-hawks into doubling-down on war, so is ignoring the growing chorus of idiots saying we need MOAR.
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 27, 2021 10:18:24 GMT -6
And another issue is that these dumbfucks like Chuck I eat lead paint Todd never call out the blatant lies by the GQP that they allow to be spun on their shows. Unless it is a Dem do they actually attempt to spin whatever GQP point is out there because again, ratings. Drive up the rage in their followers so they see what stupid shit the hosts say next. Fuck Chuck Todd, he's a piece of shit who should not have a show. It's more the Wharrgarbl issue. With Dipshit there was a firehose of sewage being distributed daily. The press literally couldn't wrap their teeth into anything before he/they had moved on to something even dumber and more corrupt. The problem with Biden (and Obama) & the press is nothing terrible is/was happening by them, so they have the fleeting things to focus on and theorize all the fantasies of how ungodly terrible it could be. Though Biden IS POTUS and the buck stops with him, his biggest problems are steaming piles of crap caused by / exacerbated by Dipshit. He does have the blessing of hindsight from being on the Obama team to know when he is being played by the war-hawks into doubling-down on war, so is ignoring the growing chorus of idiots saying we need MOAR. Look, the bottom line on Afghanistan is that it's not even a real country. It's like Iraq, but worse: a bunch of people who don't like each other, with no common history, and harboring competing interests cobbled together into a fake country with artificial borders. In Afghanistan's case it's a third world narco-state run by tribal warlords whose only allegiance is to themselves.
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Post by socal on Aug 27, 2021 10:20:19 GMT -6
It's more the Wharrgarbl issue. With Dipshit there was a firehose of sewage being distributed daily. The press literally couldn't wrap their teeth into anything before he/they had moved on to something even dumber and more corrupt. The problem with Biden (and Obama) & the press is nothing terrible is/was happening by them, so they have the fleeting things to focus on and theorize all the fantasies of how ungodly terrible it could be. Though Biden IS POTUS and the buck stops with him, his biggest problems are steaming piles of crap caused by / exacerbated by Dipshit. He does have the blessing of hindsight from being on the Obama team to know when he is being played by the war-hawks into doubling-down on war, so is ignoring the growing chorus of idiots saying we need MOAR. Look, the bottom line on Afghanistan is that it's not even a real country. It's like Iraq, but worse: a bunch of people who don't like each other, with no common history, and harboring competing interests cobbled together into a fake country with artificial borders. In Afghanistan's case it's a third world narco-state run by tribal warlords whose only allegiance is to themselves. So... Afghanistan is Florida?
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Post by thunderhawk on Aug 27, 2021 11:05:27 GMT -6
Look, the bottom line on Afghanistan is that it's not even a real country. It's like Iraq, but worse: a bunch of people who don't like each other, with no common history, and harboring competing interests cobbled together into a fake country with artificial borders. In Afghanistan's case it's a third world narco-state run by tribal warlords whose only allegiance is to themselves. So... Afghanistan is Florida?
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Aug 27, 2021 12:37:14 GMT -6
Look, the bottom line on Afghanistan is that it's not even a real country. It's like Iraq, but worse: a bunch of people who don't like each other, with no common history, and harboring competing interests cobbled together into a fake country with artificial borders. In Afghanistan's case it's a third world narco-state run by tribal warlords whose only allegiance is to themselves. So... Afghanistan is Florida? But smarter.
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Post by Ginger on Sept 8, 2021 13:18:26 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on Sept 8, 2021 16:50:20 GMT -6
The media blaming Biden for MAGATS crushing horse dewormer paste and driving infections is the media as baboons showing their asses
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Post by Ginger on Sept 8, 2021 17:43:16 GMT -6
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Sept 8, 2021 18:45:41 GMT -6
That crowd is clearly not woke enough to advise the modern service academies.
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Post by socal on Dec 14, 2021 5:28:22 GMT -6
Is that guy old enough to remember, oh I don't know, June of 2020? The police stand down to civil disobedience now. The inmates run the asylum. Is he new here? Anyway, just for your edification, what he is saying in there is what is called a "conspiracy theory." You shouldn't peddle those. They're dangerous to our democracy. Care to revise?
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Post by NOTTHOR on May 2, 2022 15:37:06 GMT -6
Welp, the Orange Man is less desirable than a ham sandwich. NY grand jury dissolved, no indictment.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 2, 2022 16:51:46 GMT -6
Welp, the Orange Man is less desirable than a ham sandwich. NY grand jury dissolved, no indictment. Trump grabs NYC in the Alvin Bragg. They let you do it when you’re famous
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Post by livingintheusa on May 7, 2022 18:31:53 GMT -6
There is a reason for this
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Post by livingintheusa on May 7, 2022 18:33:34 GMT -6
Welp, the Orange Man is less desirable than a ham sandwich. NY grand jury dissolved, no indictment. Trump grabs NYC in the Alvin Bragg. They let you do it when you’re famous
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Post by Ginger on May 23, 2022 11:38:05 GMT -6
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Post by Logan Roy’s Bastard Son on Jun 13, 2022 17:12:36 GMT -6
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 13, 2022 18:56:02 GMT -6
I've been saying that for years. The unemployment numbers and the CPI numbers are pure fucking fiction.
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Post by Logan Roy’s Bastard Son on Jun 14, 2022 8:43:31 GMT -6
I've been saying that for years. The unemployment numbers and the CPI numbers are pure fucking fiction. Stephen King couldn't write a scarier story.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 15, 2022 10:37:51 GMT -6
I've been saying that for years. The unemployment numbers and the CPI numbers are pure fucking fiction. Stephen King couldn't write a scarier story. I almost majored in economics. About 5 courses in I realizied that it actually IS the Dismal Science and that it's really nothing more than quantification of millions upon millions of individual decisions attempting to be distilled into some grand unified theory. IOW, it's pretty fucking high on its own supply. It's like Newtonian and Quantum physics; coexistence, but contradictory. I think there's a lot of generalizing and not a lot of real digging down into the details. For example, in the Des Moines metro or Summit County, the two places I spend most of my time, unemployment absolutely is virtually nonexistent. And there's an employment crunch in the retail and service industries. Seemingly paradoxically, many of these businesses, while clamoring for more employees, also aren't turning huge profits. The physics paradox. As far as inflation goes, the CPI is a fucking joke. Any of y'all paid for college lately? Or a car? Pre pandemic, not since everything got fucked sideways. That 2-3% inflation they've been opining about over the past umpteen years has been bullshit, and spoiler alert, the Fed jacking rates isn't going to do shit for the current inflationary pressures, because they're mostly externally driven as evidenced by high inflation globally. It's not a fucking mystery, either. Energy and supply chains. Reducing consumer demand is a recipe for stagflation. It's not a demand-side problem. Interest rate "remedies" in this environment are like amputating a toe when the patient's tooth hurts. I'm not arguing that rates are too low, they probably are, and should have risen gradually when the economic situation was more stable. But raising them to quell the current inflationary pressures is fucking window dressing that'll probably do more harm than good. Wall Street sure liked that easy money though. They weren't complaining. Maybe they can blockchain their way out of this one.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 15, 2022 12:22:16 GMT -6
Stephen King couldn't write a scarier story. I almost majored in economics. About 5 courses in I realizied that it actually IS the Dismal Science and that it's really nothing more than quantification of millions upon millions of individual decisions attempting to be distilled into some grand unified theory. IOW, it's pretty fucking high on its own supply. It's like Newtonian and Quantum physics; coexistence, but contradictory. I think there's a lot of generalizing and not a lot of real digging down into the details. For example, in the Des Moines metro or Summit County, the two places I spend most of my time, unemployment absolutely is virtually nonexistent. And there's an employment crunch in the retail and service industries. Seemingly paradoxically, many of these businesses, while clamoring for more employees, also aren't turning huge profits. The physics paradox. As far as inflation goes, the CPI is a fucking joke. Any of y'all paid for college lately? Or a car? Pre pandemic, not since everything got fucked sideways. That 2-3% inflation they've been opining about over the past umpteen years has been bullshit, and spoiler alert, the Fed jacking rates isn't going to do shit for the current inflationary pressures, because they're mostly externally driven as evidenced by high inflation globally. It's not a fucking mystery, either. Energy and supply chains. Reducing consumer demand is a recipe for stagflation. It's not a demand-side problem. Interest rate "remedies" in this environment are like amputating a toe when the patient's tooth hurts. I'm not arguing that rates are too low, they probably are, and should have risen gradually when the economic situation was more stable. But raising them to quell the current inflationary pressures is fucking window dressing that'll probably do more harm than good. Wall Street sure liked that easy money though. They weren't complaining. Maybe they can blockchain their way out of this one. The Fed needed to raise rates last fucking year and they needed to tamp down quantitative easing last year as well. The unemployment numbers are a total joke, though. Yes, the labor market is tight right now, but the bigger issue is that a monstrous swath of the economy is built around utter bullshit dead end service jobs that require facing the petulant children known as Americans. A bunch of that shit is going to collapse if the labor market gets tighter. Can you imagine working at a fucking Subway or McDonald's today for $15 an hour? Get fucked. Fuck yourself in the ear. No fucking way. You know who doesn't have trouble finding help? Places like Chick-Fil-A that pay $2 an hour over prevailing rates. Save your bullshit about "I almost majored in economics" bruh. You lie to girls, you don't lie to us. The biggest problem with the CPI is measuring improvements. Yes, a car costs a fuckton more money today than it did in 1982, but it also has more computer power than the god damned space shuttle had in 1982, plus airbags, plus side impact bars, plus a crumple zone, plus a fucking satellite radio, etc. There is simply no way to credibly compare the price of the two items. There have been monstrous, absolutely monstrous, forces that have driven consumer prices down in some areas. Remember paying AT&T $100 a month for long fucking distance? Technology crushed that one. Offshoring shit also drastically reduced prices. As did immigration. I mean Christ, a fucking TV that you get today for $400 is incomprehensibly awesome compared to a $1000 TV from 30 years ago. Partially due to technology, partially due to the fact it is now made by someone in China rather than someone in Indiana. Long story short, the CPI was designed to measure inflation, which is at its core growth of the money supply. But businesses spent the last 40 years cutting production costs to the absolute bone and there ain't shit left to cut, but those cuts vastly vastly vastly masked the exponential growth of the money supply. Even oil underwent major improvements in extraction that have kept oil prices very reasonable for most of the past 40 years.
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Post by thunderhawk on Jun 15, 2022 13:15:44 GMT -6
I almost majored in economics. About 5 courses in I realizied that it actually IS the Dismal Science and that it's really nothing more than quantification of millions upon millions of individual decisions attempting to be distilled into some grand unified theory. IOW, it's pretty fucking high on its own supply. It's like Newtonian and Quantum physics; coexistence, but contradictory. I think there's a lot of generalizing and not a lot of real digging down into the details. For example, in the Des Moines metro or Summit County, the two places I spend most of my time, unemployment absolutely is virtually nonexistent. And there's an employment crunch in the retail and service industries. Seemingly paradoxically, many of these businesses, while clamoring for more employees, also aren't turning huge profits. The physics paradox. As far as inflation goes, the CPI is a fucking joke. Any of y'all paid for college lately? Or a car? Pre pandemic, not since everything got fucked sideways. That 2-3% inflation they've been opining about over the past umpteen years has been bullshit, and spoiler alert, the Fed jacking rates isn't going to do shit for the current inflationary pressures, because they're mostly externally driven as evidenced by high inflation globally. It's not a fucking mystery, either. Energy and supply chains. Reducing consumer demand is a recipe for stagflation. It's not a demand-side problem. Interest rate "remedies" in this environment are like amputating a toe when the patient's tooth hurts. I'm not arguing that rates are too low, they probably are, and should have risen gradually when the economic situation was more stable. But raising them to quell the current inflationary pressures is fucking window dressing that'll probably do more harm than good. Wall Street sure liked that easy money though. They weren't complaining. Maybe they can blockchain their way out of this one. The Fed needed to raise rates last fucking year and they needed to tamp down quantitative easing last year as well. The unemployment numbers are a total joke, though. Yes, the labor market is tight right now, but the bigger issue is that a monstrous swath of the economy is built around utter bullshit dead end service jobs that require facing the petulant children known as Americans. A bunch of that shit is going to collapse if the labor market gets tighter. Can you imagine working at a fucking Subway or McDonald's today for $15 an hour? Get fucked. Fuck yourself in the ear. No fucking way. You know who doesn't have trouble finding help? Places like Chick-Fil-A that pay $2 an hour over prevailing rates. Save your bullshit about "I almost majored in economics" bruh. You lie to girls, you don't lie to us. The biggest problem with the CPI is measuring improvements. Yes, a car costs a fuckton more money today than it did in 1982, but it also has more computer power than the god damned space shuttle had in 1982, plus airbags, plus side impact bars, plus a crumple zone, plus a fucking satellite radio, etc. There is simply no way to credibly compare the price of the two items. There have been monstrous, absolutely monstrous, forces that have driven consumer prices down in some areas. Remember paying AT&T $100 a month for long fucking distance? Technology crushed that one. Offshoring shit also drastically reduced prices. As did immigration. I mean Christ, a fucking TV that you get today for $400 is incomprehensibly awesome compared to a $1000 TV from 30 years ago. Partially due to technology, partially due to the fact it is now made by someone in China rather than someone in Indiana. Long story short, the CPI was designed to measure inflation, which is at its core growth of the money supply. But businesses spent the last 40 years cutting production costs to the absolute bone and there ain't shit left to cut, but those cuts vastly vastly vastly masked the exponential growth of the money supply. Even oil underwent major improvements in extraction that have kept oil prices very reasonable for most of the past 40 years. My sophomore year was almost exclusively econ courses. Deep into the fucking weeds. That is some fucked up shit. I began to question reality. Your automobile/tech example is exactly what I'm talking about. Measuring "inflation" for a sector or basket of goods, especially technologically evolving one, is bullshit because the larger the time span, the less comparatively accurate the comparison. I suppose you can index Snickers bars to get a more accurate read on actual consumer goods inflation. Or Budweiser. Cuz those are the same things they always were. But many products are both exponentially better and demonstrably cheaper than 40 years ago. In 1983 an Apple IIe set you back about $1400.00. For that kind of money now, you can get a Macbook Pro with more computing power than what...a million IIe's? The point being, they're measuring a lot of things that aren't the same but treating them like they are. Although as far as college is concerned, I doubt organic chem has changed enough to justify the massive tuition hikes.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Jun 15, 2022 13:35:49 GMT -6
The Fed needed to raise rates last fucking year and they needed to tamp down quantitative easing last year as well. The unemployment numbers are a total joke, though. Yes, the labor market is tight right now, but the bigger issue is that a monstrous swath of the economy is built around utter bullshit dead end service jobs that require facing the petulant children known as Americans. A bunch of that shit is going to collapse if the labor market gets tighter. Can you imagine working at a fucking Subway or McDonald's today for $15 an hour? Get fucked. Fuck yourself in the ear. No fucking way. You know who doesn't have trouble finding help? Places like Chick-Fil-A that pay $2 an hour over prevailing rates. Save your bullshit about "I almost majored in economics" bruh. You lie to girls, you don't lie to us. The biggest problem with the CPI is measuring improvements. Yes, a car costs a fuckton more money today than it did in 1982, but it also has more computer power than the god damned space shuttle had in 1982, plus airbags, plus side impact bars, plus a crumple zone, plus a fucking satellite radio, etc. There is simply no way to credibly compare the price of the two items. There have been monstrous, absolutely monstrous, forces that have driven consumer prices down in some areas. Remember paying AT&T $100 a month for long fucking distance? Technology crushed that one. Offshoring shit also drastically reduced prices. As did immigration. I mean Christ, a fucking TV that you get today for $400 is incomprehensibly awesome compared to a $1000 TV from 30 years ago. Partially due to technology, partially due to the fact it is now made by someone in China rather than someone in Indiana. Long story short, the CPI was designed to measure inflation, which is at its core growth of the money supply. But businesses spent the last 40 years cutting production costs to the absolute bone and there ain't shit left to cut, but those cuts vastly vastly vastly masked the exponential growth of the money supply. Even oil underwent major improvements in extraction that have kept oil prices very reasonable for most of the past 40 years. My sophomore year was almost exclusively econ courses. Deep into the fucking weeds. That is some fucked up shit. I began to question reality. Your automobile/tech example is exactly what I'm talking about. Measuring "inflation" for a sector or basket of goods, especially technologically evolving one, is bullshit because the larger the time span, the less comparatively accurate the comparison. I suppose you can index Snickers bars to get a more accurate read on actual consumer goods inflation. Or Budweiser. Cuz those are the same things they always were. But many products are both exponentially better and demonstrably cheaper than 40 years ago. In 1983 an Apple IIe set you back about $1400.00. For that kind of money now, you can get a Macbook Pro with more computing power than what...a million IIe's? The point being, they're measuring a lot of things that aren't the same but treating them like they are. Although as far as college is concerned, I doubt organic chem has changed enough to justify the massive tuition hikes. Nah, bruh, if you had taken econometrics 1 and 2 you would have gotten into CPI and the assumptions about quality changes and substitution effect that get baked in, all of which make it even more meaningless. But you get the point. Most people don't. The Economist magazine actually uses a Big Mac index to gauge purchasing power parity and relative price levels. That is actually a good solution. On college costs, it is the same problem as housing and healthcare. As Uncle Sugar throws more money at a problem to "fix" an affordability problem, the fucking price goes through the damned roof.
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Post by Logan Roy’s Bastard Son on Jun 18, 2022 21:52:13 GMT -6
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