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Post by HawksStock on Mar 2, 2009 12:04:02 GMT -6
while I'm still going to remain a registered Libertarian, my new (true) belief is...
conspiracy theorist.
I'm not joking. I'm going to start posting links to documentaries over the next few weeks. I would post one now, but am having difficulty finding it. (I've been researching for the last month and a half or so)
The first video (hopefully) will be a racist (anti-jew) video that is historically accurate, though I wish it was presented in a more tasteful way. I kind of want to ease you all into the truth, and I think this will be the best way.
I have food poisoning right now (projecting from both ends), so I should have time today to find it.
BTW: Killzone 2 is balls.
Thunder, Socal, BTR, I would like to know what knowledge you have concerning the Rothschilds.
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Post by twinegarden on Mar 2, 2009 12:21:39 GMT -6
while I'm still going to remain a registered Libertarian, my new (true) belief is... conspiracy theorist. I'm not joking. I'm going to start posting links to documentaries over the next few weeks. I would post one now, but am having difficulty finding it. (I've been researching for the last month and a half or so) The first video (hopefully) will be a racist (anti-jew) video that is historically accurate, though I wish it was presented in a more tasteful way. I kind of want to ease you all into the truth, and I think this will be the best way. I have food poisoning right now (projecting from both ends), so I should have time today to find it. BTW: Killzone 2 is balls. Thunder, Socal, BTR, I would like to know what knowledge you have concerning the Rothschilds. +1 on the Killzone 2 comment. My only gripe is that you can only carry one gun and i prefer the responsiveness of Halo but Killzone 2 is pretty badass. Probably the best graphics of any FPS I've played. Still haven't tried it online but the single player is pretty epic.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 2, 2009 12:36:36 GMT -6
Most Libertarians already are conspiracy theorists, so I think you might be wasting your time.
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Post by HawksStock on Mar 2, 2009 13:27:16 GMT -6
perhaps thunder, but I'm starting to figure our that money is evil, I think you already realized this.
Sicko made me cry, you should try get a hold of moorer's, playboy interview. It really showcases his intentions. It pisses me off that changed newspaper headlines, even more so know that I like what he is trying to do.
Translate for us please, the latin and symbolism on the dollar bill (issued by the fed reserve)
Also point me to an unintelligent libertarian, am I more susceptible because my intelligence? believe I would like to not know what I do know.
ps. What show are you watching now. I'm really into big love, but for some reasons the politics of Deadwood blew me away and have yet to be matched. By now you know my return to this forum is caused by the Illuminati, I actually think deadwood is a microcosm of how it all it all happened (money and law interacting). We need to take money out of law.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Mar 2, 2009 13:58:09 GMT -6
perhaps thunder, but I'm starting to figure our that money is evil, I think you already realized this. Sicko made me cry, you should try get a hold of moorer's, playboy interview. It really showcases his intentions. It pisses me off that changed newspaper headlines, even more so know that I like what he is trying to do. Translate for us please, the latin and symbolism on the dollar bill (issued by the fed reserve) Also point me to an unintelligent libertarian, am I more susceptible because my intelligence? believe I would like to not know what I do know. ps. What show are you watching now. I'm really into big love, but for some reasons the politics of Deadwood blew me away and have yet to be matched. By now you know my return to this forum is caused by the Illuminati, I actually think deadwood is a microcosm of how it all it all happened (money and law interacting). We need to take money out of law. Reading about the Illuminati is pretty interesting but I think it's a bunch of BS. National Treasure was a pretty good movie though. Stick to some of the current conspiracies(troofer, nirther) for some real fun! I would pick Ron Paul as a good example of an unintelligent libertarian. While I think the guy is smart on many levels and I agree with some of his positions, his support of the Troofer movement makes me think he is one of the stupidest dipshits this side of DC. Please post the video you were talking about.
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Post by HawksStock on Mar 2, 2009 15:36:51 GMT -6
keep digging. please it has to.... we have to start somewhere, look up the Illuminati and time magazine
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 2, 2009 15:48:48 GMT -6
For the record...I don't think that money is evil.
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Post by HawksStock on Mar 2, 2009 16:01:53 GMT -6
For the record...I don't think that money is evil. Sorry, i do, for the first time in my life I see the light, and that light leads to death. A fight, any fight has to start somewhere. And now I see love is the only weapon, and it has to be, because anyone who fights for the truth will fail. Rothschild=500 billiion, he owns the czars, and the nazis fortunes as well as the interest since. look on the lower left hand as your birth certificate. 2 letters and numbers, take that to your wall street advisor and you'll learn what worth you are to our lord rothschild. It is time, do you care about your children at all. It is time.
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Post by socal on Mar 2, 2009 16:21:08 GMT -6
For the record...I don't think that money is evil. Sorry, i do, for the first time in my life I see the light, and that light leads to death. A fight, any fight has to start somewhere. And now I see love is the only weapon, and it has to be, because anyone who fights for the truth will fail. Rothschild=500 billiion, he owns the czars, and the nazis fortunes as well as the interest bince. look on the lower left hand as your birth certificate. 2 letters and numbers, take that to your wall street advisor and you'll learn what worth you are to our lord rothschild. It is time, do you care about your children at all. It is time. I, for one, welcome our demon overlords. This should make you feel better: video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912And this ditty from NIN will bring you peace:
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Post by HawksStock on Mar 2, 2009 22:14:24 GMT -6
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Post by HawksStock on Mar 2, 2009 22:30:13 GMT -6
The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized much like private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.- federal reserve website.
When every loan is "pure profit", aside from the cost of printing, throw in the interest, and imagine how much 6% is? Esp. when our puppet leaders can "borrow" a trillion at a drop of a hat.
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Post by twinegarden on Mar 3, 2009 10:41:54 GMT -6
Hey Hawkstock, be careful thinking about all of this crap. I used to read into it some but found out that focusing on it just made me pissed off and overly cynical. Plus, it's mostly things you can't really do anything about. Also, you don't want the thought police knocking your doors down some night when you are sleeping. I hope listening to CoasttoCoast AM isn't keeping you up at night and driving you crazy. Too bad Art Bell left the show, he was the best and his old forums made for some pretty interesting reading regarding this stuff but I don't think it's online anymore.
The video Endwar is pretty good, you can find that on Google video. The dude Alex Jones who made it has some interesting points but I can't help but take everything with a grain of salt, make that a salt block of salt.
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Post by HawksStock on Mar 3, 2009 11:46:35 GMT -6
Twine, I know what you mean, thinking about it gives me a head ache, but I think we as a people need to stop putting our heads into the ground.
Socal was right, the last 30 minutes of that video gives me hope for man. I think I'm not quite the capitalist that I used to be.
btw- the only radio I listen to is sports talk.
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Mar 3, 2009 11:56:11 GMT -6
Hey Hawkstock, be careful thinking about all of this crap. I used to read into it some but found out that focusing on it just made me pissed off and overly cynical. Plus, it's mostly things you can't really do anything about. Also, you don't want the thought police knocking your doors down some night when you are sleeping. I hope listening to CoasttoCoast AM isn't keeping you up at night and driving you crazy. Too bad Art Bell left the show, he was the best and his old forums made for some pretty interesting reading regarding this stuff but I don't think it's online anymore. The video Endwar is pretty good, you can find that on Google video. The dude Alex Jones who made it has some interesting points but I can't help but take everything with a grain of salt, make that a salt block of salt. Alex Jones is a giant fucking douchebag. Listen to his 911 troofer BS sometime and let me know what you think. I agree with the Art Bell comments. I love listening to some of his replays.
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 3, 2009 12:09:16 GMT -6
We the people have the wool pulled over our eyes all the time.
If you really want to blow your mind, read about the Bardo and the "Cold Machine".
Anyway, for what it's worth, I truly believe that money and religion are the two most evil concepts known to man.
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Post by twinegarden on Mar 3, 2009 12:14:16 GMT -6
We the people have the wool pulled over our eyes all the time. If you really want to blow your mind, read about the Bardo and the "Cold Machine". Anyway, for what it's worth, I truly believe that money and religion are the two most evil concepts known to man. I don't think money and religion themselves are evil at all. It's just that people who control them abuse them, that is where the evil lies.
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Post by roxxstar on Mar 3, 2009 12:18:05 GMT -6
I hear what you are saying. But I still think they are evil. Although, some form of religions are not really evil as in sinister. But, they both are bad for the world.
Pretty much every war that has ever been fought has been for money or religion. Whole lot of death.
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Post by HawksStock on Mar 3, 2009 13:13:32 GMT -6
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 3, 2009 13:48:50 GMT -6
Hey Hawkstock, be careful thinking about all of this crap. I used to read into it some but found out that focusing on it just made me pissed off and overly cynical. Plus, it's mostly things you can't really do anything about. Also, you don't want the thought police knocking your doors down some night when you are sleeping. I hope listening to CoasttoCoast AM isn't keeping you up at night and driving you crazy. Too bad Art Bell left the show, he was the best and his old forums made for some pretty interesting reading regarding this stuff but I don't think it's online anymore. The video Endwar is pretty good, you can find that on Google video. The dude Alex Jones who made it has some interesting points but I can't help but take everything with a grain of salt, make that a salt block of salt. Alex Jones is a giant fucking douchebag. Listen to his 911 troofer BS sometime and let me know what you think. I agree with the Art Bell comments. I love listening to some of his replays. I'm a big Coast to Coast AM fan, which is pretty fucking odd because I'm an empirical SOB. I guess I just enjoy letting my mind wander and listening in on the crazy. And you're dead right about Alex Jones. That guy is a fucking twat. Anyone who promotes 9/11 conspiracy theories instantly loses any shred of cred in my book.
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Post by socal on Mar 3, 2009 14:31:12 GMT -6
I hear what you are saying. But I still think they are evil. Although, some form of religions are not really evil as in sinister. But, they both are bad for the world. Pretty much every war that has ever been fought has been for money or religion. Whole lot of death. There's also the opposite extreme... Around 20% of Muslims would be considered "hippies" by conservatives. www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=number+of+sufi&btnG=Search
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Mar 3, 2009 20:42:20 GMT -6
We the people have the wool pulled over our eyes all the time. If you really want to blow your mind, read about the Bardo and the "Cold Machine". Anyway, for what it's worth, I truly believe that money and religion are the two most evil concepts known to man. I'm sure it won't change your mind but give the whole thing a read. " Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another--their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun.
"But money demands of you the highest virtues, if you wish to make it or to keep it. Men who have no courage, pride or self-esteem, men who have no moral sense of their right to their money and are not willing to defend it as they defend their life, men who apologize for being rich--will not remain rich for long. They are the natural bait for the swarms of looters that stay under rocks for centuries, but come crawling out at the first smell of a man who begs to be forgiven for the guilt of owning wealth. They will hasten to relieve him of the guilt--and of his life, as he deserves.
"Then you will see the rise of the men of the double standard--the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money--the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law--men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims--then money becomes its creators' avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.
"Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion--when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing--when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors--when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you--when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice--you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that is does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.
"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked, 'Account overdrawn.'
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, 'Who is destroying the world? You are.
"You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest productive civilization and you wonder why it's crumbling around you, while you're damning its life-blood--money. You look upon money as the savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back to the edge of your cities. Throughout men's history, money was always seized by looters of one brand or another, whose names changed, but whose method remained the same: to seize wealth by force and to keep the producers bound, demeaned, defamed, deprived of honor. That phrase about the evil of money, which you mouth with such righteous recklessness, comes from a time when wealth was produced by the labor of slaves--slaves who repeated the motions once discovered by somebody's mind and left unimproved for centuries. So long as production was ruled by force, and wealth was obtained by conquest, there was little to conquer, Yet through all the centuries of stagnation and starvation, men exalted the looters, as aristocrats of the sword, as aristocrats of birth, as aristocrats of the bureau, and despised the producers, as slaves, as traders, as shopkeepers--as industrialists.
"To the glory of mankind, there was, for the first and only time in history, a country of money--and I have no higher, more reverent tribute to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice, freedom, production, achievement. For the first time, man's mind and money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest, but only fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves, there appeared the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human being--the self-made man--the American industrialist.
"If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose--because it contains all the others--the fact that they were the people who created the phrase 'to make money.' No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity--to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created. The words 'to make money' hold the essence of human morality.
"Yet these were the words for which Americans were denounced by the rotted cultures of the looters' continents. Now the looters' credo has brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame, your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as blackguards, and your magnificent factories as the product and property of muscular labor, the labor of whip-driven slaves, like the pyramids of Egypt. The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide-- as, I think, he will.
"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns--or dollars. Take your choice--there is no other--and your time is running out." www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826
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Post by iammrhawkeyes on Mar 3, 2009 20:51:36 GMT -6
I hear what you are saying. But I still think they are evil. Although, some form of religions are not really evil as in sinister. But, they both are bad for the world. Pretty much every war that has ever been fought has been for money or religion. Whole lot of death. There have been wars in which religion and/or money have played a major role(or have been THE reason). Which wars during the 20th century(the bloodiest century by far) were fought mainly over religion or money?
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Post by Iowafan1 on Mar 3, 2009 21:24:47 GMT -6
I hear what you are saying. But I still think they are evil. Although, some form of religions are not really evil as in sinister. But, they both are bad for the world. Pretty much every war that has ever been fought has been for money or religion. Whole lot of death. There have been wars in which religion and/or money have played a major role(or been THE reason). Which wars during the 20th century(the bloodiest century by far) were fought mainly over religion or money? You beat me to it. Those who make the claim that money is evil generally don't don't earn much of it, yet have no problem taking it from others and spending the hell out of it.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 4, 2009 11:00:18 GMT -6
There have been wars in which religion and/or money have played a major role(or been THE reason). Which wars during the 20th century(the bloodiest century by far) were fought mainly over religion or money? You beat me to it. Those who make the claim that money is evil generally don't don't earn much of it, yet have no problem taking it from others and spending the hell out of it. Do you have any fucking evidence, ever, to support your asinine fucking assertions? Goddamn Limbaugh-spewing fucktard. By the way, Jesus Christ, whom you must offend with every breath you draw, would beg to differ with your fuckheaded statement.
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Post by Saggitariutt Jefferspin (ith) on Mar 4, 2009 11:23:55 GMT -6
There have been wars in which religion and/or money have played a major role(or been THE reason). Which wars during the 20th century(the bloodiest century by far) were fought mainly over religion or money? You beat me to it. Those who make the claim that money is evil generally don't don't earn much of it, yet have no problem taking it from others and spending the hell out of it. Are you inbred?
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