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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Mar 2, 2015 3:10:55 GMT -6
White definitely has a huge vertical, especially for a goofy looking white boy ginger. He'll get a look at the NBA, but probably will be stuck in either the D league, or over in Europe. If he ever makes a NBA team it will be because of his hustle and ability to get to the ball and play above the rim. Of course, if he should land on a NBA roster, and Niang doesn't, I would fucking laugh my ass off at those stupid ass clowns.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Mar 2, 2015 6:54:24 GMT -6
Any of you saying Whitey isn't in the top ten all time Hawks are either poorly trolling or just plain stupid. Second in scoring, 3rd in rebounding, I have not looked up steals, but I seem to recall him being top ten at least. What more do you want out of a player? I never said he wasn't top 10. What I mean is that he's not top 3, even though he'll wind up there in huge statistical columns. It was earlier this week, when I heard Dolph say that White topped BJ Armstrong on the all-time scoring list, and I was like "He's barely half the player BJ was". I am going to nick him because, like R.D. Marble, he didn't accomplish anything at Iowa (so far) besides fill up the stats column.
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Mar 2, 2015 7:52:04 GMT -6
This isnt fair. He's got a decent low post game and hes got a very good dribble drive game. Yes he gets his fair share of hustle buckets but thats not all his game is. Reggie Evans was a true Mr Garbage. No real jumper, no face up game, average at best on the block. Virtually all his production was from the offensive glass. Duo Fuq? White drives in like a B-league game, getting calls from refs. Look at how many points he scores from the line (% leads the nation) He really has no offensive game....he goes around screens for his open shots. He's not our go-to guy for scoring, not really. What exactly is his low post game you're talking about? What he does do well, very well, is scavenger around the basket. Again, this is not saying he's not an all-time great. He's just accomplished 'it' through a different mechanism than most. He routinely beats his man off the bounce. And when he does he usually either gets fouled, finishes, or both. I don't see how that adds up to a B-league dribble drive game. His scavenging around the basket maybe accounts for 10% or 20% of his offensive production. He's got a nice hook shot and a solid up and under move. He doesn't get a lot of post opportunities because of how our offense works and the fact we don't draw plays for him but when he gets an opportunity on the block he usually converts.
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Post by The Resistance on Mar 2, 2015 8:15:01 GMT -6
Not even in the same class as Wade Lookingbill. He is the world champ of pump faking. AHawk should know this, Lookingbill was from Ft Dodge. Hey AHawk, was Goodman the coach when Lookingbill was in High School? Yes and no disrespect to Tom because he is a unreal coach but he followed talent. His son was a key player on that team when they won the state championship.
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Post by The Resistance on Mar 2, 2015 8:22:37 GMT -6
Any of you saying Whitey isn't in the top ten all time Hawks are either poorly trolling or just plain stupid. Second in scoring, 3rd in rebounding, I have not looked up steals, but I seem to recall him being top ten at least. What more do you want out of a player? I never said he wasn't top 10. What I mean is that he's not top 3, even though he'll wind up there in huge statistical columns. It was earlier this week, when I heard Dolph say that White topped BJ Armstrong on the all-time scoring list, and I was like "He's barely half the player BJ was". I am going to nick him because, like R.D. Marble, he didn't accomplish anything at Iowa (so far) besides fill up the stats column. I love the guy, his fight, grit and work ethic and he's been a great Hawk, but he's not in my top 15 picks if I'm assembling a team of former players.
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Post by The Resistance on Mar 2, 2015 8:27:24 GMT -6
You can't punish white because he played on mediocre teams. I mean, a lot of you dicks worshipped at the Matt gatens altar and he wasn't half the player that white is. Can't have it both ways. Big dukes Ed or Whitey?
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Mar 2, 2015 8:39:23 GMT -6
I never said he wasn't top 10. What I mean is that he's not top 3, even though he'll wind up there in huge statistical columns. It was earlier this week, when I heard Dolph say that White topped BJ Armstrong on the all-time scoring list, and I was like "He's barely half the player BJ was". I am going to nick him because, like R.D. Marble, he didn't accomplish anything at Iowa (so far) besides fill up the stats column. I love the guy, his fight, grit and work ethic and he's been a great Hawk, but he's not in my top 15 picks if I'm assembling a team of former players. Come up with six forwards you would rather have, go.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 2, 2015 8:47:33 GMT -6
I never said he wasn't top 10. What I mean is that he's not top 3, even though he'll wind up there in huge statistical columns. It was earlier this week, when I heard Dolph say that White topped BJ Armstrong on the all-time scoring list, and I was like "He's barely half the player BJ was". I am going to nick him because, like R.D. Marble, he didn't accomplish anything at Iowa (so far) besides fill up the stats column. I love the guy, his fight, grit and work ethic and he's been a great Hawk, but he's not in my top 15 picks if I'm assembling a team of former players. It is his work ethic i actually have a problem with. He sometimes just disapears for a half or more. I need a little more info on why he would not be in your top 15. How do you discount his place on so many of the all time stats list?
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 2, 2015 8:51:30 GMT -6
Wait a minute, I've just perused a few of the comments on nyah and am I getting trolled or is there a consensus that Aaron White is one of the 10 best players in Iowa history? Jesus H. Christ, guys, he's a decent player who has been on four pretty shitty teams so he got to start early. This fucking guy would have had a hard time starting back in the '80's and for most of the 90's and you fucking clowns are going to anoint him a top 10 player? Holy balls. Just from mah lifetime, I would say White is behind at least 10 guys (in no particular order):
1. Ronnie Lester 2. BJ 3. Roy 4. Devyn 5. Greg Stokes 6. Eddie Horton 7. Greg Brunner 8. Horner 9. Jess Settles 10. Reggie Evans 11. Ricky Davis 12. 'Dre Woolridge 13. Lohaus 14. Bullard 15. Jepsen
That doesn't include old balls, such as Don Nelson.
Christ, this guy is down around Monter Glasper, Kenyon Murrary, Ray Thompson or Jeff Moe caliber player. Nice ball player, but his stats are massively juiced up due to how shitty the team has been and the sheer number of reps he has received. Hell, I would even put him below Matt Gatens. Now if we're just talking power forwards, sure, put him in the top 10, but it's liek you gaiz have forgotten that notwithstanding our incredibly long Big Ten regular season title drought, we have historically had some pretty fucking good basketball teams.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Mar 2, 2015 8:56:01 GMT -6
Don't you dare forget kingsbury.
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Post by Presidential Immunity Cock on Mar 2, 2015 8:57:58 GMT -6
I see you missed Chris street in your rankings partner. He was so dangerous the only defense against him was a blizzard and snowstorm.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 2, 2015 9:00:43 GMT -6
I see you missed Chris street in your rankings partner. He was so dangerous the only defense against him was a blizzard and snowstorm. Omission noted. Forgot to even put him on there, but he should be on there, too.
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Post by egadsto on Mar 2, 2015 9:01:25 GMT -6
Wait a minute, I've just perused a few of the comments on nyah and am I getting trolled or is there a consensus that Aaron White is one of the 10 best players in Iowa history? Jesus H. Christ, guys, he's a decent player who has been on four pretty shitty teams so he got to start early. This fucking guy would have had a hard time starting back in the '80's and for most of the 90's and you fucking clowns are going to anoint him a top 10 player? Holy balls. Just from mah lifetime, I would say White is behind at least 10 guys (in no particular order): 1. Ronnie Lester 2. BJ 3. Roy 4. Devyn 5. Greg Stokes 6. Eddie Horton 7. Greg Brunner 8. Horner 9. Jess Settles 10. Reggie Evans 11. Ricky Davis 12. 'Dre Woolridge 13. Lohaus 14. Bullard 15. Jepsen That doesn't include old balls, such as Don Nelson. Christ, this guy is down around Monter Glasper, Kenyon Murrary, Ray Thompson or Jeff Moe caliber player. Nice ball player, but his stats are massively juiced up due to how shitty the team has been and the sheer number of reps he has received. Hell, I would even put him below Matt Gatens. Now if we're just talking power forwards, sure, put him in the top 10, but it's liek you gaiz have forgotten that notwithstanding our incredibly long Big Ten regular season title drought, we have historically had some pretty fucking good basketball teams. Ricky Davis! Fletch afro!
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Mar 2, 2015 9:15:43 GMT -6
Wait a minute, I've just perused a few of the comments on nyah and am I getting trolled or is there a consensus that Aaron White is one of the 10 best players in Iowa history? Jesus H. Christ, guys, he's a decent player who has been on four pretty shitty teams so he got to start early. This fucking guy would have had a hard time starting back in the '80's and for most of the 90's and you fucking clowns are going to anoint him a top 10 player? Holy balls. Just from mah lifetime, I would say White is behind at least 10 guys (in no particular order): 1. Ronnie Lester 2. BJ 3. Roy 4. Devyn 5. Greg Stokes 6. Eddie Horton 7. Greg Brunner 8. Horner 9. Jess Settles 10. Reggie Evans 11. Ricky Davis 12. 'Dre Woolridge 13. Lohaus 14. Bullard 15. Jepsen That doesn't include old balls, such as Don Nelson. Christ, this guy is down around Monter Glasper, Kenyon Murrary, Ray Thompson or Jeff Moe caliber player. Nice ball player, but his stats are massively juiced up due to how shitty the team has been and the sheer number of reps he has received. Hell, I would even put him below Matt Gatens. Now if we're just talking power forwards, sure, put him in the top 10, but it's liek you gaiz have forgotten that notwithstanding our incredibly long Big Ten regular season title drought, we have historically had some pretty fucking good basketball teams. assuming you are talking senior season only, the only bigs i wood put ahead of Aaron are stokes, lohaus, and horton. I think you can make an argument for Aaron against everybody else named. I also have to include Nelson. I dont know anything about his game but dude played a decade in the NBA.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Mar 2, 2015 9:23:12 GMT -6
You can't punish white because he played on mediocre teams. I mean, a lot of you dicks worshipped at the Matt gatens altar and he wasn't half the player that white is. Can't have it both ways. Find one instance of someone here worshiping Matt Gatens? Although, Gatens went through the same thing with idiots on HN, because Gatens got ridiculously hot the his last month of his career, and people were all liek "DURRRR ALL TIME GREAT! PROBABLY PLAY NBA BALL!!!!" White is a good player. I'd say, in my reckoning, he's the 2nd best power forward of the 15 years after Davis, behind Reggie Evans. However, White's stats would lead you to believe he's a top 5 all time player at Iowa, and he's nowhere close to that. Right now, maybe top 20. Get to the sweet 16 this season? Prolly bump him up to top 10.
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Post by NotMyKid on Mar 2, 2015 9:43:42 GMT -6
Wait a minute, I've just perused a few of the comments on nyah and am I getting trolled or is there a consensus that Aaron White is one of the 10 best players in Iowa history? Jesus H. Christ, guys, he's a decent player who has been on four pretty shitty teams so he got to start early. This fucking guy would have had a hard time starting back in the '80's and for most of the 90's and you fucking clowns are going to anoint him a top 10 player? Holy balls. Just from mah lifetime, I would say White is behind at least 10 guys (in no particular order): 1. Ronnie Lester 2. BJ 3. Roy 4. Devyn 5. Greg Stokes 6. Eddie Horton 7. Greg Brunner 8. Horner 9. Jess Settles 10. Reggie Evans 11. Ricky Davis 12. 'Dre Woolridge 13. Lohaus 14. Bullard 15. Jepsen That doesn't include old balls, such as Don Nelson. Christ, this guy is down around Monter Glasper, Kenyon Murrary, Ray Thompson or Jeff Moe caliber player. Nice ball player, but his stats are massively juiced up due to how shitty the team has been and the sheer number of reps he has received. Hell, I would even put him below Matt Gatens. Now if we're just talking power forwards, sure, put him in the top 10, but it's liek you gaiz have forgotten that notwithstanding our incredibly long Big Ten regular season title drought, we have historically had some pretty fucking good basketball teams. You also left off Kevin Boyle, Kenny Arnold, Mark Gannon, etc. All guys from Lute's teams I would put ahead of him. I would put him well ahead of Glasper, Thompson and even Jepsen but he has benefited from being on some pretty average Iowa teams. If he is playing on the 79/80 final four team or the BJ/Horton/Gamble/Marble team he isn't starting. He's a very good player, but his stats are a bit inflated from starting since he was a freshmen (similar to Gatens) That said the type of player any coach would love to have on his team, a great role player that was never meant to be the 1st, 2nd or probably even third option on O. He isn't close to top 10 and I would say somewhere in the mid 20's to 30's all-time.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 2, 2015 9:46:16 GMT -6
Wait a minute, I've just perused a few of the comments on nyah and am I getting trolled or is there a consensus that Aaron White is one of the 10 best players in Iowa history? Jesus H. Christ, guys, he's a decent player who has been on four pretty shitty teams so he got to start early. This fucking guy would have had a hard time starting back in the '80's and for most of the 90's and you fucking clowns are going to anoint him a top 10 player? Holy balls. Just from mah lifetime, I would say White is behind at least 10 guys (in no particular order): 1. Ronnie Lester 2. BJ 3. Roy 4. Devyn 5. Greg Stokes 6. Eddie Horton 7. Greg Brunner 8. Horner 9. Jess Settles 10. Reggie Evans 11. Ricky Davis 12. 'Dre Woolridge 13. Lohaus 14. Bullard 15. Jepsen That doesn't include old balls, such as Don Nelson. Christ, this guy is down around Monter Glasper, Kenyon Murrary, Ray Thompson or Jeff Moe caliber player. Nice ball player, but his stats are massively juiced up due to how shitty the team has been and the sheer number of reps he has received. Hell, I would even put him below Matt Gatens. Now if we're just talking power forwards, sure, put him in the top 10, but it's liek you gaiz have forgotten that notwithstanding our incredibly long Big Ten regular season title drought, we have historically had some pretty fucking good basketball teams. You also left off Kevin Boyle, Kenny Arnold, Mark Gannon, etc. All guys from Lute's teams I would put ahead of him. I would put him well ahead of Glasper, Thompson and even Jepsen but he has benefited from being on some pretty average Iowa teams. If he is playing on the 79/80 final four team or the BJ/Horton/Gamble/Marble team he isn't starting. He's a very good player, but his stats are a bit inflated from starting since he was a freshmen (similar to Gatens) That said the type of player any coach would love to have on his team, a great role player that was never meant to be the 1st, 2nd or probably even third option on O. He isn't close to top 10 and I would say somewhere in the mid 20's to 30's all-time. Yeah, pal, I didn't include most of Lute's guys because I was like 5 when they were around and I don't remember them - Lester comes to mind, though, because he is regarded by many as the best player Iowa has ever had.
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Mar 2, 2015 10:02:16 GMT -6
I like Reggie but if i am down to one schollie anf have to pick between the two i choose white. he can play the three or the four and is much more versatile on defense.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Mar 2, 2015 10:13:44 GMT -6
I like Reggie but if i am down to one schollie anf have to pick between the two i choose white. he can play the three or the four and is much more versatile on defense. Lulz. Now the troll goes full swing. White is okay on defense this year, just okay. Most other years he has sucked donkey ass. He has greatly benefited from the fact that many other teams are way shorter than us this year.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 2, 2015 10:27:13 GMT -6
I will not be a part to your heightist descrimination OK4P. It isnt Whiteys fault he is tall. Being tall isnt a choice, he was born that way,
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Mar 2, 2015 10:28:35 GMT -6
its pretty moranic to try and compare poing guards to Aaron white. its even more moranic to compare kenny Arnold. he was on par wif deano and horner, and a clear step behind Ronnie, BJ, and Dre. Wait a minute, I've just perused a few of the comments on nyah and am I getting trolled or is there a consensus that Aaron White is one of the 10 best players in Iowa history? Jesus H. Christ, guys, he's a decent player who has been on four pretty shitty teams so he got to start early. This fucking guy would have had a hard time starting back in the '80's and for most of the 90's and you fucking clowns are going to anoint him a top 10 player? Holy balls. Just from mah lifetime, I would say White is behind at least 10 guys (in no particular order): 1. Ronnie Lester 2. BJ 3. Roy 4. Devyn 5. Greg Stokes 6. Eddie Horton 7. Greg Brunner 8. Horner 9. Jess Settles 10. Reggie Evans 11. Ricky Davis 12. 'Dre Woolridge 13. Lohaus 14. Bullard 15. Jepsen That doesn't include old balls, such as Don Nelson. Christ, this guy is down around Monter Glasper, Kenyon Murrary, Ray Thompson or Jeff Moe caliber player. Nice ball player, but his stats are massively juiced up due to how shitty the team has been and the sheer number of reps he has received. Hell, I would even put him below Matt Gatens. Now if we're just talking power forwards, sure, put him in the top 10, but it's liek you gaiz have forgotten that notwithstanding our incredibly long Big Ten regular season title drought, we have historically had some pretty fucking good basketball teams. You also left off Kevin Boyle, Kenny Arnold, Mark Gannon, etc. All guys from Lute's teams I would put ahead of him. I would put him well ahead of Glasper, Thompson and even Jepsen but he has benefited from being on some pretty average Iowa teams. If he is playing on the 79/80 final four team or the BJ/Horton/Gamble/Marble team he isn't starting. He's a very good player, but his stats are a bit inflated from starting since he was a freshmen (similar to Gatens) That said the type of player any coach would love to have on his team, a great role player that was never meant to be the 1st, 2nd or probably even third option on O. He isn't close to top 10 and I would say somewhere in the mid 20's to 30's all-time.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Mar 2, 2015 10:29:00 GMT -6
I like Reggie but if i am down to one schollie anf have to pick between the two i choose white. he can play the three or the four and is much more versatile on defense. LOLOLOLOL. You funny. I can't wait to watch white in the league.
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Post by A boy named Sioux on Mar 2, 2015 10:31:36 GMT -6
Whitey is going to have to shoot 50% from the arc for the rest of the season to even get a sniff from the league.
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Mar 2, 2015 10:35:06 GMT -6
I like Reggie but if i am down to one schollie anf have to pick between the two i choose white. he can play the three or the four and is much more versatile on defense. Lulz. Now the troll goes full swing. White is okay on defense this year, just okay. Most other years he has sucked donkey ass. He has greatly benefited from the fact that many other teams are way shorter than us this year. Hes been great as the point man for our 1-3-1 over the years. He's terrific at using his length to disrupt passing lanes a and prevent offensive ball rotation, hes an average post defender. Ill take that over Reggie on D any day. Reggie was a banger, and I like bangers, but thats it.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Mar 2, 2015 10:36:31 GMT -6
Whitey is going to have to shoot 50% from the arc for the rest of the season to even get a sniff from the league. Make that 95 and I'll agree.
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