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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 17, 2015 9:56:01 GMT -6
I have been thinking about this. Kurt can basically write his own ticket after the season he's had, and retire on his own terms. However, he has to know that he'll never luck into another season like he did this year with the time he has left. Next year, we go to the 9 game BoneG schedule with 5 road games, and some tougher teams from the east. Even if we are respectable, we'll never be as high as we are now.
If he retires this year, he has Garta by the balls, and can basically name Brain the head coach if he wants, and obviously I think that's the endgame here. Next year if we go 9-4, it might be tougher to start demanding nepotism. Also, a part of me want to send a big fuck you to the Iowa media which basically wrote him off after last year.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 17, 2015 10:10:56 GMT -6
It depends on how bad he wants the phat stax of ca$h. He is making a fuckton, but if he wants to pass the baton to Brain, now would be the time. I wouldn't be opposed to it, provided that the package involves a giant raise for Phil Parker to keep him from getting poached. I think Brain would recruit okay and would be capable of having 2 good seasons a decade. The alternative is Kurt sticks around, our good luck reverses next year and we finish 7-5, as is the typical trajectory for Iowa football (though we could be okay with Beathard coming back), then have a fucking tire fire season in 2017, Kurt gets run, recruiting hits the absolute shitter for 2-3 years and we fall to a 2-10 caliber program and only sheer luck with the coaching search gets us back to a decent caliber team. To ensure stability where we trend around 7 wins, Kurt retiring this year is prolly our best bet.
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Post by Earl Slick on Nov 17, 2015 10:12:10 GMT -6
Timely retirements are rare in the sporting world. A big ego makes it tough to step out of the limelight.
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Post by The Resistance on Nov 17, 2015 10:13:00 GMT -6
Hey head over to the basketball thread. I'd like to hear your thoughts on Francis.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 17, 2015 10:16:07 GMT -6
Timely retirements are rare in the sporting world. A big ego makes it tough to step out of the limelight. I agree. However, if he has the shot to give it to his kid, that will probably trump his ego.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 17, 2015 10:23:36 GMT -6
It depends on how bad he wants the phat stax of ca$h. He is making a fuckton, but if he wants to pass the baton to Brain, now would be the time. I wouldn't be opposed to it, provided that the package involves a giant raise for Phil Parker to keep him from getting poached. I think Brain would recruit okay and would be capable of having 2 good seasons a decade. The alternative is Kurt sticks around, our good luck reverses next year and we finish 7-5, as is the typical trajectory for Iowa football (though we could be okay with Beathard coming back), then have a fucking tire fire season in 2017, Kurt gets run, recruiting hits the absolute shitter for 2-3 years and we fall to a 2-10 caliber program and only sheer luck with the coaching search gets us back to a decent caliber team. To ensure stability where we trend around 7 wins, Kurt retiring this year is prolly our best bet. Honestly, a 9-10 win season next year isn't too far fetched, even if Brain is coaching. We'll have CJ back, and it will be his son's Steve's senior year, so I could see him sticking around. 2017 we get Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan State from the east, and a new QB, so that could be a rough season. I don't know if he wants to leave that for Brain.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Nov 17, 2015 10:40:37 GMT -6
Ghosts opinions of Kurt and Iowa football are always spot on.
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Post by NotMyKid on Nov 17, 2015 10:53:18 GMT -6
No way he retires after this year. He's 60. He's a football coach it isn't like he is working at some 8-5 gig. It's his life, it's in his blood, he's worked 60+ hours a week for his entire life there is a reason why most coaches get kicked to the curb instead of retiring.
The only way I see him stepping down if the new president offers him Barta's job.
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Post by BrainFerentz4Prez on Nov 17, 2015 11:08:52 GMT -6
He's gonna wait until Stephen is done. Barring somefing completely unforseen family or health related he's not leaving before. That's why the contract was written until 2020. Steve is a senior next year, which means he can coach his son without having to deal with contract talk or having to deal with negative recruiting about his contract as he nears retirement. He might stick around one more but I doubt it.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 17, 2015 11:40:39 GMT -6
No way he retires after this year. He's 60. He's a football coach it isn't like he is working at some 8-5 gig. It's his life, it's in his blood, he's worked 60+ hours a week for his entire life there is a reason why most coaches get kicked to the curb instead of retiring. The only way I see him stepping down if the new president offers him Barta's job. Interdasting. On the otter hand, he's 60, and he's been living with in IC for 15+ years with every goober in the region treating him like a king one minute, and a pile of dog shit the next. There has to be a part of him that wants to go out on top, lob the middle finger to all the people who gave him shit, and pound his husky whiff on a beach somewhere. I know he's competitive, but if he retires this season, he can name Brain head coach. He'll have the power and goodwill to do anything he wants. If we go 8-5 next year, he'll lose that power. Imagine if you could hand one of your kids a 5 million dollar lottery ticket?
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Post by Stan's Field on Nov 17, 2015 16:38:01 GMT -6
Retiring.
I love it!!!!
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 17, 2015 19:55:57 GMT -6
It depends on how bad he wants the phat stax of ca$h. He is making a fuckton, but if he wants to pass the baton to Brain, now would be the time. I wouldn't be opposed to it, provided that the package involves a giant raise for Phil Parker to keep him from getting poached. I think Brain would recruit okay and would be capable of having 2 good seasons a decade. The alternative is Kurt sticks around, our good luck reverses next year and we finish 7-5, as is the typical trajectory for Iowa football (though we could be okay with Beathard coming back), then have a fucking tire fire season in 2017, Kurt gets run, recruiting hits the absolute shitter for 2-3 years and we fall to a 2-10 caliber program and only sheer luck with the coaching search gets us back to a decent caliber team. To ensure stability where we trend around 7 wins, Kurt retiring this year is prolly our best bet. Honestly, a 9-10 win season next year isn't too far fetched, even if Brain is coaching. We'll have CJ back, and it will be his son's Steve's senior year, so I could see him sticking around. 2017 we get Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan State from the east, and a new QB, so that could be a rough season. I don't know if he wants to leave that for Brain. Um yeah, pal, my optimism cloud hovering from August 2005 and August 2010 just called and laughed uproariously at your comment about 9-10 wins next year.
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Post by Incogayno. on Nov 17, 2015 20:12:05 GMT -6
Honestly, a 9-10 win season next year isn't too far fetched, even if Brain is coaching. We'll have CJ back, and it will be his son's Steve's senior year, so I could see him sticking around. 2017 we get Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan State from the east, and a new QB, so that could be a rough season. I don't know if he wants to leave that for Brain. Um yeah, pal, my optimism cloud hovering from August 2005 and August 2010 just called and laughed uproariously at your comment about 9-10 wins next year. After your statements about how this year would go fell so flat, no one gives a shit about your feelings of next year.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 17, 2015 22:47:01 GMT -6
Um yeah, pal, my optimism cloud hovering from August 2005 and August 2010 just called and laughed uproariously at your comment about 9-10 wins next year. After your statements about how this year would go fell so flat, no one gives a shit about your feelings of next year. If I'm not mistaken, it is something like the 4th or 5th season where Kurt was gifted a magnificent schedule, so lightning was bound to strike once. I mean, fuck me, did I get burned by my optimism in 2007 when we dropped OSU and Michigan. Jesus, Christensen was fucking horrid. Hokkball has always been streaky - save for 2002 and 2009, we're never as good as our good record indicates and never as shitty as our shitty record indicates, it's just that this program has incredible spurts of luck one way or the other and history has shown me not to expect good luck to last too long and to enjoy it when it hits. I genuinely do not want to watch this team play OSU or Alabama, though. OSU probably has a skullfuck playbook that they are saving for Michigan and the Big Ten title game and I don't want to watch our d-line and LBs getting skullfucked. Shit, after what Minnesota did to us, I'm scurred of Nebraska.
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Post by Incogayno. on Nov 17, 2015 22:53:09 GMT -6
After your statements about how this year would go fell so flat, no one gives a shit about your feelings of next year. If I'm not mistaken, it is something like the 4th or 5th season where Kurt was gifted a magnificent schedule, so lightning was bound to strike once. I mean, fuck me, did I get burned by my optimism in 2007 when we dropped OSU and Michigan. Jesus, Christensen was fucking horrid. Hokkball has always been streaky - save for 2002 and 2009, we're never as good as our good record indicates and never as shitty as our shitty record indicates, it's just that this program has incredible spurts of luck one way or the other and history has shown me not to expect good luck to last too long and to enjoy it when it hits. I genuinely do not want to watch this team play OSU or Alabama, though. OSU probably has a skullfuck playbook that they are saving for Michigan and the Big Ten title game and I don't want to watch our d-line and LBs getting skullfucked. Shit, after what Minnesota did to us, I'm scurred of Nebraska. 2009 has much more luck involved. We fucking beat UNI with two blocked field goals in a row. This year has been much less luck and more getting it done but yeah I am not going to bet on winning the NC, let alone making the playoffs. I think Ohio State has yet to be tested though. Who knows who we would play in the big ten champ game yet.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 18, 2015 7:57:22 GMT -6
Honestly, a 9-10 win season next year isn't too far fetched, even if Brain is coaching. We'll have CJ back, and it will be his son's Steve's senior year, so I could see him sticking around. 2017 we get Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan State from the east, and a new QB, so that could be a rough season. I don't know if he wants to leave that for Brain. Um yeah, pal, my optimism cloud hovering from August 2005 and August 2010 just called and laughed uproariously at your comment about 9-10 wins next year. I think it's possible, but I wouldn't bet on it. Who the fuck wood bet on Kurt? A betting man would have put down large for 8 wins max this year. Also one thing to consider is Iowa QBs who are awesome seem to have shitty senior seasons. Drew Tate 6-7 team as a senior, started ranked #16. RIck Stanzi 7-6 as a senior, started ranked #9. Unless Iowa completely shits the bed and gets crushed the last three games, they prolly start next year ranked.
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Post by Aborted Cyclone Fetus on Nov 18, 2015 8:22:29 GMT -6
Honestly I think next year he moves Brain to co-offensive coordinator so that he can learn the ropes with GDGD. I think Gerg retires after next season when CJ leaves giving the reigns of the offense over to Brain. Brain then leads the O for a few more seasons until Kurt decides to hang it up and then Brain takes over.
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Post by NotMyKid on Nov 18, 2015 9:07:34 GMT -6
Honestly I think next year he moves Brain to co-offensive coordinator so that he can learn the ropes with GDGD. I think Gerg retires after next season when CJ leaves giving the reigns of the offense over to Brain. Brain then leads the O for a few more seasons until Kurt decides to hang it up and then Brain takes over. This is probably the most realistic scenario.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 18, 2015 9:22:11 GMT -6
Honestly I think next year he moves Brain to co-offensive coordinator so that he can learn the ropes with GDGD. I think Gerg retires after next season when CJ leaves giving the reigns of the offense over to Brain. Brain then leads the O for a few more seasons until Kurt decides to hang it up and then Brain takes over. Brain can only take over if Kurt doesn't get his ass fired first. If Kurt shits the bed in 2017-2018, the buyout is manageable, and recruiting would fall off the fucking cliff bince Kurt will be a 63 year old lame duck coach. They aren't just going to hand the team to Brain then. Burt will prolly get fired in the meantime. Bobby Diaco has turned around UConn. Who knows.
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Post by egadsto on Nov 18, 2015 10:31:23 GMT -6
Honestly I think next year he moves Brain to co-offensive coordinator so that he can learn the ropes with GDGD. I think Gerg retires after next season when CJ leaves giving the reigns of the offense over to Brain. Brain then leads the O for a few more seasons until Kurt decides to hang it up and then Brain takes over. Brain can only take over if Kurt doesn't get his ass fired first. If Kurt shits the bed in 2017-2018, the buyout is manageable, and recruiting would fall off the fucking cliff bince Kurt will be a 63 year old lame duck coach. They aren't just going to hand the team to Brain then. Burt will prolly get fired in the meantime. Bobby Diaco has turned around UConn. Who knows. Um, extension coming?
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 18, 2015 12:02:56 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, it is something like the 4th or 5th season where Kurt was gifted a magnificent schedule, so lightning was bound to strike once. I mean, fuck me, did I get burned by my optimism in 2007 when we dropped OSU and Michigan. Jesus, Christensen was fucking horrid. Hokkball has always been streaky - save for 2002 and 2009, we're never as good as our good record indicates and never as shitty as our shitty record indicates, it's just that this program has incredible spurts of luck one way or the other and history has shown me not to expect good luck to last too long and to enjoy it when it hits. I genuinely do not want to watch this team play OSU or Alabama, though. OSU probably has a skullfuck playbook that they are saving for Michigan and the Big Ten title game and I don't want to watch our d-line and LBs getting skullfucked. Shit, after what Minnesota did to us, I'm scurred of Nebraska. 2009 has much more luck involved. We fucking beat UNI with two blocked field goals in a row. This year has been much less luck and more getting it done but yeah I am not going to bet on winning the NC, let alone making the playoffs. I think Ohio State has yet to be tested though. Who knows who we would play in the big ten champ game yet. We had grown ass men playing on defense in 2009. That was a fucking legit team that, at full strength, could have played with anyone in the country. This year's team looks like a team that is capable of getting absolutely skullfucked if they play an elite team. Yeah, that team got lucky against UNI and had some close calls, but it wasn't like the 2003 or 2004 teams that couldn't manage to lose a close game. I just hope we don't shit the bed the next two weeks and Michigan somehow dethrones OSU. Then, we could make the playoffs, but man, I want nothing to do with OSU.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Nov 18, 2015 12:07:21 GMT -6
So many hawt takes, so little time.
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Post by GhostMod 5000 on Nov 18, 2015 12:11:01 GMT -6
2009 has much more luck involved. We fucking beat UNI with two blocked field goals in a row. This year has been much less luck and more getting it done but yeah I am not going to bet on winning the NC, let alone making the playoffs. I think Ohio State has yet to be tested though. Who knows who we would play in the big ten champ game yet. We had grown ass men playing on defense in 2009. That was a fucking legit team that, at full strength, could have played with anyone in the country. This year's team looks like a team that is capable of getting absolutely skullfucked if they play an elite team. Yeah, that team got lucky against UNI and had some close calls, but it wasn't like the 2003 or 2004 teams that couldn't manage to lose a close game. I just hope we don't shit the bed the next two weeks and Michigan somehow dethrones OSU. Then, we could make the playoffs, but man, I want nothing to do with OSU. Yeah, for a highly ranked as Iowa's defense is, I think the offense is way ahead of the defense right now. Shit, I think this might be the best offense we've have bince 2002, and that includes the Stanzi/McNutt/DJK years.
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Post by NOTTHOR on Nov 18, 2015 12:19:33 GMT -6
We had grown ass men playing on defense in 2009. That was a fucking legit team that, at full strength, could have played with anyone in the country. This year's team looks like a team that is capable of getting absolutely skullfucked if they play an elite team. Yeah, that team got lucky against UNI and had some close calls, but it wasn't like the 2003 or 2004 teams that couldn't manage to lose a close game. I just hope we don't shit the bed the next two weeks and Michigan somehow dethrones OSU. Then, we could make the playoffs, but man, I want nothing to do with OSU. Yeah, for a highly ranked as Iowa's defense is, I think the offense is way ahead of the defense right now. Shit, I think this might be the best offense we've have bince 2002, and that includes the Stanzi/McNutt/DJK years. Yeah, the offense is good, but we've played one physically strong team and we put up 10 fucking points.
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Post by FoxHuntChampion on Nov 18, 2015 12:29:45 GMT -6
Yeah, for a highly ranked as Iowa's defense is, I think the offense is way ahead of the defense right now. Shit, I think this might be the best offense we've have bince 2002, and that includes the Stanzi/McNutt/DJK years. Yeah, the offense is good, but we've played one physically strong team and we put up 10 fucking points. Did you check every teams bench press numbers?
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